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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 7:28:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like how the tone and pitch of her voice changes as the numbers get higher ..... 

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 7:31:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Such sadists out there. I got in rtouble when counting for saying...One,fuck instead of one, thank you Sir

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 7:36:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am required to keep count of punishment strokes. And of my birthday spanking. Otherwise, He goes as long as He wishes, with consideration to how I'm doing.

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 7:48:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		i am able to count but am loathe to do it. It just kind of destroys any kind of headspace i may have garnered in that space in time before the pain where im getting restrained or when hes getting ready to start.

During a light hearted kind of group scene a few weeks ago, i was made to add my years of life to everyone elses in the room...39 plus 45 plus 34 plus...as i was being hit with just about every toy within reach by at least 2 of my friends...there were about 10 people in the room and then the cheating started....suddenly they were asking the passers by their ages and i needed to add those too. My count was so far off...i got lost at 247 and couldnt get any other sums correctly anymore. I had broken into a sweat and was laughing and kind of crying out of frustration. It must have pulled some heartstrings cuz at least one sub and one Dom were sitting at my head trying to help me keep track of my mental columns and carry-overs....even with the extra help i simply was unable to do it. My ass was cooked long before i came up with anything close to correct. To this day, every once in a while someone will call out..."quick...whats 39 plus 45??"

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 11:09:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddyssweetpea

counting strokes, do you do it or not?
who counts, the giver or the getter?
like it? love it? hate it?


I don't do it. I find it to interrupt the experience.

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 12:27:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		With me its done occasionally. With small counts. For fun. part of the over all experience. I was at a party once where it was a doms birthday and his sub was required to find people to share her spankings. I told her i would take 15 of the count. She was going to get the rest. he went easy on me but it was still hard. She was taking hers after a full beating where she was just recovering from subspace. Another stepped in and took some of her spankings cause we could see she had had enough. She was really grateful.

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 12:39:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like doing it at the end of a particular implement, if I'm switching from one toy to another, have the bottom count 10 and give her some really good solid ones to curse at me through, especially if it's an implement she's not particularly enjoying. Adjusting intensity based on the way the numbers are said can turn it into a cool down lap for a sub in need of a break, or an escalating climax if she sounds like she can handle (or maybe can't) handle it. Plus, any number you can't understand doesn't count and has to be done again : )

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 1:20:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddyssweetpea

counting strokes, do you do it or not?
who counts, the giver or the getter?
like it? love it? hate it?


Although one of the most arousing "training films" I have has the sub doing just that...my submissive lady and I don't count strokes. As the Dominant, I feel as if counting breaks the smooth, progressive flow of a whipping. It would take my lady's mind off where I want her to be going.

Just my .02 zlotys. Your milage may vary.

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 1:20:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ToysAndTies

I like doing it at the end of a particular implement, if I'm switching from one toy to another, have the bottom count 10 and give her some really good solid ones to curse at me through, especially if it's an implement she's not particularly enjoying. Adjusting intensity based on the way the numbers are said can turn it into a cool down lap for a sub in need of a break, or an escalating climax if she sounds like she can handle (or maybe can't) handle it. Plus, any number you can't understand doesn't count and has to be done again : )


That's about it in a nutshell... and i invariably fuck up at least once... requiring extra of something i'm already fighting...

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RE: counting strokes - 8/31/2008 7:04:37 PM   
stella41b


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Status: offline 		It took me a while here to work out what types of strokes.. The thought had crossed my mind briefly that this was about guys jacking off..

'pullmyplonker' - 246 strokes
'cum2quick' - 4 strokes

It's been one of those days.

Previously (not now because I'm not in that situation and besides I'm trying to be good) I was rarely asked to count, partly because I'm number dyslexic. ..'12..13...41' when stressed. I've mainly been required to react and not make a sound.. I was allowed to make a sound but also if I did my dominant could change her mind over the number of strokes.

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RE: counting strokes - 9/1/2008 8:08:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		one thousand and eight, one thousand and nine, nine hundred and ninety nine, sixty four, sixty nine, three thousand, oh sorry got side tracked.....ten, eleven, twelve,.......

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RE: counting strokes - 9/1/2008 8:48:58 AM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		I'm usually told how many I will receive for punishment and then made to count them. If I screw up or forget he starts from the beginning.

I absolutely hate counting since the pain blinds my mind so much I can't remember the number or even how to speak at that point...which of course means he starts over...which of course makes me try even harder in the future to avoid all punishment!

If it's not punishment then he usually just hits me until he's done.

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 12:08:05 AM   
angelslave77


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Status: offline 		I have to count each one before i get it, so I know it is coming, and it doesnt come till I count, but the longer I keep him waiting the harder he stroke or I get extras.

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 12:53:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

Having the sub count and listening to their voice is a good way for the top to get a hint about whether the sub has had enough


That was my view. I thought it worked well.

Until I saw all the posts like Cali's - lots of them ...

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Counting keeps the thinking part of my brain in charge and won't let the feeling part take over.  Makes everything hurt more and I cannot take as much.  I would hate to think someone I was with thought that was a good thing.


(Isn't this place good for learning stuff!)

So how do non-counters handle the "giving a hint about whether the sub has had enough" thing?


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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 1:25:34 AM   
MistressRouge


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I'm usually told how many I will receive for punishment and then made to count them. If I screw up or forget he starts from the beginning.

I absolutely hate counting since the pain blinds my mind so much I can't remember the number or even how to speak at that point...which of course means he starts over...which of course makes me try even harder in the future to avoid all punishment!

If it's not punishment then he usually just hits me until he's done.


This is my style also.
I always announce how many cane strokes, my slave will endure beforehand. This also adds to the tredipation, before my CP slut slave arrives, sometimes days in advance.
He has to announce/count each stroke, and he can endure 200, full force without a warm up. We are building to the 300 strokes, at the moment

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 11:18:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		My Mistress usually has me count and thank Her after every stroke and of course if I miscount or stutter She will start again. She usually canes and whips me in groups of 12, 24. 36 or even 48 strokes, a short rest, for Her, a different implement, each one getting progressively more severe, and another set.
The counting helps my Mistress estimate when I am getting to my limit, which may be 2 or 3 hundred lashes. When I can barely blurt out
“23 Thank you Mistress, 24 thank you Mistress” I will normally hear
“And the last set of 24, with my favourite cane, for you gwendoline”

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 2:34:44 PM   
Gleegal67


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Such sadists out there. I got in rtouble when counting for saying...One,fuck instead of one, thank you Sir


Been there....except it was "One...bloody freakin hell!"

Or how about this kind of counting.....He states..."I have a number in mind.  Let's see if you can guess it!"

Bloody freakin hell!!

Yeah, I get in trouble often...

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 4:10:20 PM   
persephonee


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ORIGINAL: Sundowner

quote:

ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

Having the sub count and listening to their voice is a good way for the top to get a hint about whether the sub has had enough


That was my view. I thought it worked well.

Until I saw all the posts like Cali's - lots of them ...

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Counting keeps the thinking part of my brain in charge and won't let the feeling part take over.  Makes everything hurt more and I cannot take as much.  I would hate to think someone I was with thought that was a good thing.


(Isn't this place good for learning stuff!)

So how do non-counters handle the "giving a hint about whether the sub has had enough" thing?





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i am not attached to one particular dominant so i end up playing with "strangers" more often than someone in a relationship perhaps would. Getting to know the sub prior by conversing and "negociating" is fine, but you wont know until youre whipping her how she is going to respond. Midnght is my playpartner most often these days and he and i were compatible the first time we played. He says that if you pay attention to your sub youll just know how hard or when shes had enough and needs a quick touch or a good old hairpulling/ass smackin...good girl. He says repeatedly that the main reason a scene goes bad or a relationship doesnt work out is that no one wants to pay attention to the other person.

A good clue that i cant take another strike is the timber of my voice...regardless of the word or sound that is forthcoming. The higher my voice goes, the more serious i am about calling it a day...and once it starts to rise, he generally decides what to change. If he wants to keep going and work with other implements, he may pause long enough to touch or whisper in my ear (nothing sweet about those nothings..) and then continue on with what he wants to do but he definitely changes the intensity or the sensation for me...so i want to continue. While he has a sadistic streak, he is also cognizant of the fact that he likes to keep his toys intact.

On the rare occasion that i bring someone new in to play with, Midnght is right there next to our area and he is within earshot of me. It has never happened yet but i know that if i were in trouble of any sort, he would step in and work something out. i wont play with someone that wont allow M to observe.

my point, and i do have one, is pay attention to her sounds...not necessarily her words...and feel your way. Counting in general serves to make the sub think as opposed to feel, which is what these responses have shown.

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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 4:18:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sundowner
So how do non-counters handle the "giving a hint about whether the sub has had enough" thing?


I've been told my body tells you everything you need to know, although I'm certainly not quiet by any stretch of the imagination.  If I'm standing, apparently my right foot does all the talking... a small lift up, and it hurts a bit.  The higher the foot, the closer to the edge I'm getting.  If a hip twist is involved to try to get away, that's pretty intense.  If I start jumping up and down on the toes of both feet, muttering something like "motherfucker", I need a break.

If I'm not standing, it's all in the ass.  Is it kicked back or tucked under, am I wet or dry? 

Of course, this is what I've been told.  I think it's all a big story, cuz I don't think any of it is true.


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RE: counting strokes - 9/2/2008 4:37:19 PM   
persephonee


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sundowner
So how do non-counters handle the "giving a hint about whether the sub has had enough" thing?


I've been told my body tells you everything you need to know, although I'm certainly not quiet by any stretch of the imagination.  If I'm standing, apparently my right foot does all the talking... a small lift up, and it hurts a bit.  The higher the foot, the closer to the edge I'm getting.  If a hip twist is involved to try to get away, that's pretty intense.  If I start jumping up and down on the toes of both feet, muttering something like "motherfucker", I need a break.

If I'm not standing, it's all in the ass.  Is it kicked back or tucked under, am I wet or dry? 

Of course, this is what I've been told.  I think it's all a big story, cuz I don't think any of it is true.


Cali



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hehe....i know whatcha mean...they all lie about it dont they? i have demanded a public retraction but have yet to receive it.
*wanders off muttering about gossipy Dominants and their tall tales....*

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