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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:12:09 PM   
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oh my god............ go watch alittle Dexter! and come back and see that I missed a bigger blood bath here!!!!

Damn!


I think penis measurements would end this once and for all.


Well, it is pretty big....

Just saying...

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:12:32 PM   
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I think penis measurements would end this once and for all.


SHIT... I lose!!  oh well... can't win them all. 

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:14:21 PM   
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Grow up and reply to my points.


No young man, you need to obtain some experience and then come back to the table.




I believe his comments are very wise and given with an open spirit and lacking in the arrogance of those who are not here to grow and learn.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:15:08 PM   
MasterAramis


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As I said before, you can play the age card all you want to try and intimidate me out of this thread, but your own opinions speak from your own lack of experience and education about relationships.


I don't need to intimidate you out of anything, your credibility on experience is lacking at best. Ever been married? If so, have you ever been divorced? Do you have children? Have you ever had property? Do you know what it's like to juggle a home, and a family? You are going to sit there and tell me you have that level of experience?

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:15:43 PM   
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Grow up and reply to my points.


No young man, you need to obtain some experience and then come back to the table.




Experience is not gained in years...

I know a girl who at 10 was raped, at 13 was taken in to the care of a "master" and mentored and abused and now at 19 has more experience in life then you EVER will.

Play the age card as you wish, it shows your petty as well as have no clue. Some people devolop faster or slower then others. For example your How old and are still playing the petty high school games I go over years ago.

Many submissives only list them selves as such because they get less spam mail from fools like you who think slaves Live and breath to serve total strangers.

I will never die because I am unowned, and in the 2 owned relationships I was in, I went from brat, to according to them a slave (even though I dont believe they exist).

Ive seen Rabbits posts, hes a wise man who not only has the balls to call on people when they are wrong by stands by his beliefs.

How much experience have I had in being a submissive almost 20. So if you want to weigh experience to age. Were equals.




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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:16:10 PM   
lusciouslips19


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No actually, it wasnt you who said that. It was Knight of Mist who alluded to that and you just poo pooed and shut him down. Way to go for recognizing wisdom and taking credit for it!


I think your sunglasses are too dark. I did in fact say that in my comment to Mad, go back and read before you post.


Oh Yes Sir oh great Poobah Of Doom !

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:17:42 PM   
MasterAramis


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Play the age card as you wish, it shows your petty as well as have no clue.


Oh we have seen you before haven't we?

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:20:40 PM   
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As I said before, you can play the age card all you want to try and intimidate me out of this thread, but your own opinions speak from your own lack of experience and education about relationships.


I don't need to intimidate you out of anything, your credibility on experience is lacking at best. Ever been married? If so, have you ever been divorced? Do you have children? Have you ever had property? Do you know what it's like to juggle a home, and a family? You are going to sit there and tell me you have that level of experience?


And what the hell does that have to with experience with meeting a wide variety of different people in different relationships, and mostly, falling in love?

You want to talk about marriage, children, owning a house, and all that stuff. Start a new thread. I will probably remain quiet except for the little bit I can contribute.

But...unfortanely....homey....none of that has nothing to do with anything we are talking about.

It's really kind of sad. I've gone toe to toe with you on all your opinions and with each post, you have less and less to say to combat my own opinions and more and more personal attacks to try and debase the opinions of themselves.

Your reaching. Your trying to hang in there and grab to any thread you can to hurl something at me.

But...everyone else sees it. Your lack of response to the points I am making is evidence of not being able to come up with a response. Your being outdone by a 25 year old.

I imagine this must be incredibly embaressing for someone as pretentious and important as a Master like yourself.

Just fade off. Leave the thread. Don't keep going. It's not going to get any better. You'll just make it worse. Save what dignity you have and don't lose it with more flailing around like a fish out of water, spitting personal attacks.

It's ok.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:21:21 PM   
hopelessfool


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Status: offline 		Well Actually I posted on page 4 I believe It was maybe 3, as well as 578 other threads, So No Im not new...

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:21:27 PM   
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No actually, it wasnt you who said that. It was Knight of Mist who alluded to that and you just poo pooed and shut him down. Way to go for recognizing wisdom and taking credit for it!


I think your sunglasses are too dark. I did in fact say that in my comment to Mad, go back and read before you post.


Oh Yes Sir oh great Poobah Of Doom !


Which post are you alluding to because i saw no post where you said its a progression. So why dont you find it so you can show me how wrong I am? Then the matter will be setttled.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:23:22 PM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

oh my god............ go watch alittle Dexter! and come back and see that I missed a bigger blood bath here!!!!

Damn!


I think penis measurements would end this once and for all.


Well, it is pretty big....

Just saying...


Hahaha...My money was on you anyway, young man.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:26:32 PM   
MasterAramis


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Which post are you alluding to because i saw no post where you said its a progression. So why dont you find it so you can show me how wrong I am? Then the matter will be setttled.


Page 4 the original post to him.

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Mad, there isn't a fine line when the transference occurs. It happens gradually.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:28:17 PM   
KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: MasterAramis

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Grow up and reply to my points.


No young man, you need to obtain some experience and then come back to the table.




all I want to know...... is where is LA.... I don't think anything pisses her off  more than someone playing that stupid age card.  Few are as sharp and intelligent as LA... which is a hell of a thing for the young lass that she is.... how did she ever do it.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:30:49 PM   
KnightofMists


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Hahaha...My money was on you anyway, young man.


bitch!!!

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:31:02 PM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: MasterAramis

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Grow up and reply to my points.


No young man, you need to obtain some experience and then come back to the table.




all I want to know...... is where is LA.... I don't think anything pisses her off  more than someone playing that stupid age card.  Few are as sharp and intelligent as LA... which is a hell of a thing for the young lass that she is.... how did she ever do it.


I don't know.  She must have been married and divorced, had kids, owned a house, and juggled stuff.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:31:27 PM   
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Which post are you alluding to because i saw no post where you said its a progression. So why dont you find it so you can show me how wrong I am? Then the matter will be setttled.


Page 4 the original post to him.

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Mad, there isn't a fine line when the transference occurs. It happens gradually.




Thats not what you took credit for.
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There is no one or the other. There is one, another, another after that, and it goes on, and everything in between. My "surrendered" level of slavery four years ago was nothing compared to what it became by the time it ended.


Yes I would agree with this, I believe I said it even in one of the post that it isn't a line, but a progression.

Thanks again!



Aramis



You're really making yourself look like a silly man.



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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:40:35 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		very good point luscious

it was a point of gradual transference.. which I actually agree with...

but the point of what NuevaVida as attempting to paraphrase in regards to my point was that one's view of self evolves with experience.  It not so much a progression.  Since to me progression infers an idea that things are in stages.  I do not see it as a progression or stages.  For example.. it's like going from one side of town to the other.  Many different choices of roads to take and even means of travel... all could get you there and no one way is the best way for everyone.  It really depends on there own individual priorities.  I might take the road and that because I want to pick something up at walmart .,. another might choose the direct route... another might bum a ride and be captive to that person's choice of how they are going to get there... oh the options are rather endless.  It's not a progression.. .it's choices.. choices that we make based on our values, beliefs, goals, desires, needs, wants just to name a few.... and then it is our perception of the various options to satisfy all those things... oh it gets so complicated. 

editted to add that nasty word 'Not"

< Message edited by KnightofMists -- 9/6/2008 10:41:45 PM >

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:41:11 PM   
MasterAramis


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There is no one or the other. There is one, another, another after that, and it goes on, and everything in between


No you are the silly woman, she was talking about the progression and thats what I said to MAD, it happens gradually and it's NOT a line. This poster was talking about the level of change as her relationship continued.

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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:41:50 PM   
underHisWing


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While I make it a point to "touch" my property everyday, I have come to understand that this might be more normal than I would have believed so I am trying to get my head around its use as a tool to train a slave.

i think someone once took a poll of what submissives and slaves felt was the worst punishment.  subs and slaves can rarely agree on anything, but the overwhelming response to that poll was - yes - being punished by silence. 

This has become a long thread and i've only read the last couple pages (which had little to do with the question, i might add), so pardon me if i'm repeating someone's opinion here. 

If You are looking at silence as a tool to train a slave, You will most likely set Yourself back in Your training regimen.  Silence puts space between a Master and His slave that is destructive to the relationship.  It puts a chink in the trust and worries of these short or long periods of "abandonment" start to creep into the slave's mind.  Yes, silence as punishment can be perceived as abandonment, which is a devoted slave's worst nightmare.  If this sort of punishment is used often, You may find that Your slave becomes less responsive in all areas of the relationship.  The trust is no longer as deep and You might see signs that she is contemplating making the only decision she is allowed... that of leaving Your service.

i don't know what forms of punishment You are using now, but accentuating Your deep disappointment along with a task or activity which Your slave dislikes, is a more positive form of behaviour modification.  Love the heart that hurts You, but never hurt (with silence) the heart that loves You.

This is my personal opinion from personal experience.  i don't speak for other slaves.


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RE: Communicating with the slave or lack there of - 9/6/2008 10:44:43 PM   
MasterAramis


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i think someone once took a poll of what submissives and slaves felt was the worst punishment. subs and slaves can rarely agree on anything, but the overwhelming response to that poll was - yes - being punished by silence.


underHisWing,

Was that poll done here?

Aramis

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