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So, the question is can a man named Barrak Hussian Obama get more white people to vote for him, then will vote for man named John Sidney McCain III?

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And as for using his time as a POW as a way to get votes that has to be the single most deplorable thing I can think of. I have two uncles who were in Nam, one of whom was a POW and suffers every day. He NEVER uses that as an excuse for anything. So who the hell does this wind bag think he is?

McCain tells of his time as a POW to show his commitment to his country, just like Obama uses his "community organizer" time to show his commitment.  John McCain was a soldier & a POW in vietnam just like your uncles.  There history, courage and accomplishments does entitle them to alot!  all veterans and POW's deserve the utmost respect, even John McCain.

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that was mean, he has brain cancer!  i am totally not a fan of Ted Kennedy!  but that was mean!

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This Thread is going a litlle astray, that's OK, it happens but back to the point.

The man that gets elected President in November IS going to have a majority of the white vote. That will be a given and I doubt you could find one honest person in the Obama inner circle that would disagree.

So, the question is can a man named Barrak Hussian Obama get more white people to vote for him, then will vote for man named John Sidney McCain III?

Not in 2008 he can't.

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i can speak for a mixed race american. 

the majority of white people will not vote for him!

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i can speak for a mixed race american. 

the majority of white people will not vote for him!

.....yet another US citizen who thinks the majority of white people in the USA are racist.

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i can speak for a mixed race american. 

the majority of white people will not vote for him!

.....yet another US citizen who thinks the majority of white people in the USA are racist.

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...so you're suggesting that the majority of white people in the US are racist? If i did that you'd jump down my throat.......

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come on!  there are many success stories just like John McCain's!  he is not the only veteran that came home and made a name for themselves because of their military service.  some were weak, and dealt with the past using alcohol or drugs.  some when met with awful tortures or assaults, like me, a sexually abused fatherless child, turned their life around and made a successful worthwhile life for myself. 

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...so you're suggesting that the majority of white people in the US are racist? If i did that you'd jump down my throat.......

I am not saying that at all.

I don't think the majority are racist at all but in 2008 they are not going to vote for the most liberal Presidential nominee in its history and the fact that he is back and has a middle eastern mane isn't going to help it at all.

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Thats the saddest thing I think I have heard you say. Honestly. How narrow minded do you have to be to reduce such a choice as this to the name a person has? Or the color of their skin? Or the fact that their mother is white and their father is African? What the hell kind of point is that?

Do you even think about how racist that is? How small and just...wow...I dont even have the words to describe the level of disgust I have that there are people who would set not just a nation, but a race back 200 years.

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the fact that he is back and has a middle eastern mane isn't going to help it at all.

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I truly do not believe that America is a racist counrty but I also do not think that white America is ready to vote its majority to a black man either, especially this one.

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that war in iraq will end pretty soon, no matter who is president.  but i heard Obama say tonight that he would consider going to war if needed.  he claims to be against terrorism and plans to protect our country from it.  if war is the answer he stated he WILL use our military. 

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So, the question is can a man named Barrak Hussian Obama get more white people to vote for him, then will vote for man named John Sidney McCain III?

You're underestimating your compatriots.

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didn't invent the issue. It came from Black communites. Hilliary Clinton was all to happy to pick it up and play up to her black supporters and for it worked for her.You can find black scholars and laymen all over the internet talking about with nary a white person in or on the site.

Mainstream debate?

How about Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html

It first came to my attention via the brilliant critic and writer Stanley Crouch when he wrote this column in The New York Daily News:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730861/posts

Crouch ended that column (written two years ago) with this:

" if he [Obama] throws his hat in the ring, he will have to run as the son of a white woman and an African immigrant. If we then end up with him as our first black President, he will have come into the White House through a side door - which might, at this point, be the only one that's open."
 
That is exactly what happened at least the first part. The second part is in great doubt at the moment.

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  i can speak for a mixed race american. 

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...so you're suggesting that the majority of white people in the US are racist? If i did that you'd jump down my throat.......

 FatDomDaddy
I am not saying that at all.

I don't think the majority are racist at all but in 2008 they are not going to vote for the most liberal Presidential nominee in its history and the fact that he is back and has a middle eastern name isn't going to help it at all.

Read your OP and the subsequent posts, please.You're backpedaling furiously, but i can understand why.  When i see the ugliness of others with whom i feel a kinship, at times, i try to make sense out of it, and excuse their faults.  Disillusionmnet is a bitter pill for any of us to swallow. 

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So, the question is can a man named Barrak Hussian Obama get more white people to vote for him, then will vote for man named John Sidney McCain III?

You're underestimating your compatriots.

sigh...actually, he isn't.  But that's beside the point.  Now it's his NAME that's the problem, so the earlier statements saying a black man...will we edit all those to say a man named Obama? 

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didn't invent the issue. It came from Black communites. Hilliary Clinton was all to happy to pick it up and play up to her black supporters and for it worked for her.You can find black scholars and laymen all over the internet talking about with nary a white person in or on the site.

Mainstream debate?

How about Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html

It first came to my attention via the brilliant critic and writer Stanley Crouch when he wrote this column in The New York Daily News:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730861/posts

Crouch ended that column (written two years ago) with this:

" if he [Obama] throws his hat in the ring, he will have to run as the son of a white woman and an African immigrant. If we then end up with him as our first black President, he will have come into the White House through a side door - which might, at this point, be the only one that's open."
 
That is exactly what happened at least the first part. The second part is in great doubt at the moment.

Oh...i forgot about the day all us black people got together on Mt.Sinai, and accepted the tenets written on tablets that were given to Stanley Crouch from on high. One black person or even 1000, have not been made spokespeople for all.  Since slavery, and the habitual raping of black female slaves by white slave owners, there's been the "how black are you?" debate going on in this country.  Shame on Crouch and those of his ilk, for questioning Sen.Obama's heritage.  It shows a slightly warped loyalty to a systematic agenda used by others to oppress blacks for centuries.  No wonder he's quotable. Sort of like saying David Duke, or Ann Coulter speak for all white people; it's narrowminded to think that he does.

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  i can speak for a mixed race american. 

Well i can speak as a mixed race American.  Race will play much too large a factor in people's disapproval of Obama as a candidate. 

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...so you're suggesting that the majority of white people in the US are racist? If i did that you'd jump down my throat.......

 FatDomDaddy
I am not saying that at all.

I don't think the majority are racist at all but in 2008 they are not going to vote for the most liberal Presidential nominee in its history and the fact that he is back and has a middle eastern name isn't going to help it at all.

Read your OP and the subsequent posts, please.You're backpedaling furiously, but i can understand why.  When i see the ugliness of others with whom i feel a kinship, at times, i try to make sense out of it, and excuse their faults.  Disillusionmnet is a bitter pill for any of us to swallow.