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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 4:25:55 AM   
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This would be a deal breaker for me, I've got enough health problems without adding to the list.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 4:28:36 AM   
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Hell if someone wants to go ahead and catch an STD than more power to them, they should just make sure to join the VHEMT to help stop the spread of low IQ's.  They should also go to Australia and join some of the pro-suicide groups and learn that it's down the road and not across the street.

(Yes i'm being  jerk, but i loath people who have sex when they have an STD and are willing to put their partner at risk. Or are stupid enough to catch an STD from their partner, because using a dental dam on the outer genital region along with a condom on the penis (obviously not for female bodied people lol) is just too blasie for them.  STD's are fully preventable outside of a few rare cases (rape, being born with it, being raised in a society that didn't teach you about healthy sex, etc...), if you get one, than dear gods don't spread your genetics.)

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:23:01 AM   
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So not worth ruining your life as well as your Health for anyone! Reminds me of a old joke...How did the guy get herpes on his eye lids? He was looking for Love in all the Wrong Places!

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:29:05 AM   
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Not to be a downer or anything,
but I think its pretty shitty someone of you have such blatent disrespect for someone with a medical disorder. Granted the assholes who DONT tell their partners about an STD they have, are sick twisted bastards.

Dosent mean there arnt damn good people out there who ran into one of those sick bastards and did not know until it was too late.....

a bit of a rant, but just my

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:33:39 AM   
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quote:

Not to be a downer or anything,
but I think its pretty shitty someone of you have such blatent disrespect for someone with a medical disorder. Granted the assholes who DONT tell their partners about an STD they have, are sick twisted bastards.
Sunnyfey...i don't think the majority of the responses we opposed to a relationship with someone who is infected. Rather the responses were to purposely getting the virus

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:43:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shuhaki

Hell if someone wants to go ahead and catch an STD than more power to them, they should just make sure to join the VHEMT to help stop the spread of low IQ's.  They should also go to Australia and join some of the pro-suicide groups and learn that it's down the road and not across the street.

(Yes i'm being  jerk, but i loath people who have sex when they have an STD and are willing to put their partner at risk. Or are stupid enough to catch an STD from their partner, because using a dental dam on the outer genital region along with a condom on the penis (obviously not for female bodied people lol) is just too blasie for them.  ), STD's are fully preventable outside of a few rare cases (rape, being born with it, being raised in a society that didn't teach you about healthy sex, etc...if you get one, than dear gods don't spread your genetics.)



Things like this is what I'm talking about Holly.

My problem, especially when, I have spent a LONG time counceling teenagers on safe sexual practices, I get a lot of calls from young kids, whos partners never told them they had an STD. Or worse is the married women I hear from somethimes who were cheated on by their husbands...ect....but a lot of people assume, with statements like this, that they were just stupid, and shouldent be allowed to breed? It just makes my heart ache, Why when it comes to another desies, or virus, just BECAUSE its related to sex, does that make the person who has it immoral or wrong, or bad ect.....

Am I a bad person if I have a cold?
Or Cancer?
or emphisema?
Or what about dermatitis?

No..obviously.

But why am I so bad if i have AIDS? or HSV1 or HSV2?

somestimes the world just upsets me.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:45:26 AM   
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Apologies Sunny. I misunderstood.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:45:28 AM   
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*mutters about typos and wonders where her spell check is right now......*

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 8:57:33 AM   
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what kinda of freaked up thinking is this omg wtf its like a romeo and juliet just take the poison and get over it this is totally crazy
who in their right mind would want to do this if you break up you limit your chances of being with someone

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 9:06:15 AM   
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Latex, some people mate for life, some people, use condoms. Last time I checked relationships were not about worrying, about who your going to score with next.

Again, A Condom used properly goes a LONG way kids.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 10:11:53 AM   
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Well, even though I got the STD from being raped & it's gone now, I also know that latex & condoms don't always protect from STDs either.  Which is why I did nothing with anyone until my tests came back clean.  I don't know about  the HPV or Herpes viruses, but HIV is smaller than sperm and we all know a person can still get pregnant with condoms.  In other words, condoms do not always protect against STDs either.  And, the hell if I'd willingly get an STD for anyone.  HELL no!!

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 10:14:54 AM   
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The only fool proof way to NOT catch an STD is to NOT have sex, or be involved in sex games.

also being a survior I do feel for you sweetsub1957, but the truth is condoms are 99.99% effective when used properly......

thats the big problem, alot of people dont sue them properly.

PLEASE dont see me as attacking you in anyform darling ok?

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 10:47:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

The only fool proof way to NOT catch an STD is to NOT have sex, or be involved in sex games. ok...lets rule that out

also being a survior I do feel for you sweetsub1957, but the truth is condoms are 99.99% effective when used properly......so true!!

thats the big problem, alot of people dont sue them properly. wellll Sunny...it's not rocket science. A banana can work (but the banana can cause false hopes for a girl...beside the point though).

 To me the main issue is getting the damn things!! Our schools preach safe sex, as do our parents (ok...mine bellowed abstinence.)
, churches, medical professionals, billboards, media..etc. So...they KNOW about condoms but have you seen the price of a box of the darn things lately?

They need to be made available to the kids at no charge. And i know places such as a County Health dept will make them available, but what if the County Health dept is not available to the kid? "Hey Mom...drive me down there so i can pick up a free rubber for the Jr. High Dance tonight, will ya?"

The groups that oppose the distrubution of protection in schools/teen social centers, pediatricians office etc. need to wake the fuck up and realize it is THEIR little darlings that need them too. Keeping the condoms from the kids will not stop them. What it will do will cause our babies to have babies, kill themselves by trying to terminate a pregnancy with a drug overdose, leave the state for an abortion and not say a word when they get home and begin to hemorrhage, contact an illness they will have for life, however long that may be, etc.


Ok...i am getting off my soapbox now.



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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 10:49:00 AM   
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What would be wonderful is if people got tested more frequently, the most common STI's are so easy to treat when caught early, yet when left can cause infertility.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:00:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

What would be wonderful is if people got tested more frequently, the most common STI's are so easy to treat when caught early, yet when left can cause infertility.
I had a chuckle when i was tested via swab for HPV when i was 8 months pregnant and looked like Orca. I asked the Dr why he was doing this now and one of the reasons he gave was infertility


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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:00:42 AM   
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Oh I TOTALLY agree with you on that Holly. It makes me sick what the schools dont teach our teenagers about sex. The highest population of people who carry STDs in my community are people ages 16-22 (pretty sure thats exact, though i'll have to look up the papers I got from the HRC group here). HPV and HSV2 are almost to epidemic perportions in the young (mostly underage) LGBT community here. And I directly relate that to the fact they are NOT allowed to tell us in sex ed about BC products. they will mention the fact that condoms prevent STD's. they dont show anyone how to use them (hey remember the roll the condom on the banana trick? I dont....my mom told me about that one much later).

Again, it makes me sick.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:04:09 AM   
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It makes me sick what the schools dont teach our teenagers about sex

I guess schools don't know either what is a good thing to do.
The young people seem to think more and more they know all. People want schools to raise their kids..and on the same time people don't want schools to intrude to much in their life.
Besides that if school doesn't teach about safe sex and such..the parents should. It are their kids in my opinion.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:09:48 AM   
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Oh I TOTALLY agree with you on that Holly. It makes me sick what the schools dont teach our teenagers about sex.


i went to a strict catholic high school. We had a sex ed class in our senior year (I can recall some wise-ass *me* asking for a demonstration using the boys basketball coach and Sr. MaryWhassHerName). Anyway...birth control was not discussed as there was no need. See...we were good little catholic boys and girls and there was absolutely no reason for such topics. Need i tell you about a quarter of the girls were not permitted to attend the graduation because they were pregnant?


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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:14:32 AM   
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Besides that if school doesn't teach about safe sex and such..the parents should. It are their kids in my opinion.
i agree in theory...but this leaves too much to chance. What happens when the parents do not teach safe sex? The schools have no control over what the parents discuss with their kids and an assumption that they know (most do, though) how to protect themselves, or have the means in which to do it, can lead to a tragedy. 

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:17:42 AM   
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Problem is when is the right time to teach sex ed, how much is enough etc etc because many a parent throws their hands in the air wailing 'won't somebody think of the children'

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