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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/22/2009 11:20:00 AM   
TurboJugend


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Besides that if school doesn't teach about safe sex and such..the parents should. It are their kids in my opinion.
i agree in theory...but this leaves too much to chance. What happens when the parents do not teach safe sex? The schools have no control over what the parents discuss with their kids and an assumption that they know (most do, though) how to protect themselves, or have the means in which to do it, can lead to a tragedy. 


Yes true also.
I guess it would be nice if both the school and parents would do their job. Not an easy job perhaps to discuss sex...but the results of unsafe sex are way more nastier then a blushing face.

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 2:15:53 AM   
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Hell if someone wants to go ahead and catch an STD than more power to them, they should just make sure to join the VHEMT to help stop the spread of low IQ's.  They should also go to Australia and join some of the pro-suicide groups and learn that it's down the road and not across the street.

(Yes i'm being  jerk, but i loath people who have sex when they have an STD and are willing to put their partner at risk. Or are stupid enough to catch an STD from their partner, because using a dental dam on the outer genital region along with a condom on the penis (obviously not for female bodied people lol) is just too blasie for them.  ), STD's are fully preventable outside of a few rare cases (rape, being born with it, being raised in a society that didn't teach you about healthy sex, etc...if you get one, than dear gods don't spread your genetics.)



Things like this is what I'm talking about Holly.

My problem, especially when, I have spent a LONG time counceling teenagers on safe sexual practices, I get a lot of calls from young kids, whos partners never told them they had an STD. Or worse is the married women I hear from somethimes who were cheated on by their husbands...ect....but a lot of people assume, with statements like this, that they were just stupid, and shouldent be allowed to breed? It just makes my heart ache, Why when it comes to another desies, or virus, just BECAUSE its related to sex, does that make the person who has it immoral or wrong, or bad ect.....

Am I a bad person if I have a cold?
Or Cancer?
or emphisema?
Or what about dermatitis?

No..obviously.

But why am I so bad if i have AIDS? or HSV1 or HSV2?

somestimes the world just upsets me.


Here's the thing, veganism can make it where you don't get any of the diseases you mention.  I'm an ethical vegan, so take your pick of my answer.

However the wife who has a husband cheats on her and gets an STD from that lives in a society where there's no good sex education, because it's taught men that wives are objects to be owned, and thus if you get an STD and she gets it, it doesn't matter.  i don't think either should breed because STD's are a way of saying we're overpopulated and that both live in a society where their child is likely to get it and be sexual abused because of the society.

As for the teens who get it, get them to a lesbian stat!  i learned my sex ed from anarchist lesbians and i've never gotten an STD, even though i've been having sex since i was 14, and some of my partners have had herpes.  And again it comes down to our society not knowing what healthy sex is, and thus why the teens got a STD.  Also teens shouldn't breed, that's pedotastic and shiz.




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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 4:05:01 AM   
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I have a friend who I might eventually grow close enough to partner with. The problem is that she has two STD's HPV (genital warts) and HSV (herpies). I'm STD free but if we do partner I know I will eventually catch them.

I know a few people who have gotten STD's from partners and they where not happy about it. I know one person who willingly took on an STD and he is happy and they have a great relationship.

Has anyone ever loved someone enough to take on their STD and how did it work out?


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I have a friend who I might eventually grow close enough to partner with. The problem is that she has two STD's HPV (genital warts) and HSV (herpies). I'm STD free but if we do partner I know I will eventually catch them.

I know a few people who have gotten STD's from partners and they where not happy about it. I know one person who willingly took on an STD and he is happy and they have a great relationship.

Has anyone ever loved someone enough to take on their STD and how did it work out?


CS,

Just stay practical and remember Herpes is a life sentence and it will always be in the back of the mind of the uneffected partner.

CP

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 8:08:14 AM   
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but wanting to get something to be with someone i am sorry thats a little not on the normal mental health train of life and the persute of happiness in this lifestyle any wacky thing can happen never shorten your chances for sucess for the future there are no 100 percent certains

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 9:22:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shuhaki

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

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ORIGINAL: Shuhaki

*snip* STD's are fully preventable outside of a few rare cases (rape, being born with it, being raised in a society that didn't teach you about healthy sex, etc...if you get one, than dear gods don't spread your genetics.)

*snip*
Am I a bad person if I have a cold?
Or Cancer?
or emphisema?
Or what about dermatitis?

No..obviously.

But why am I so bad if i have AIDS? or HSV1 or HSV2?

somestimes the world just upsets me.


Here's the thing, veganism can make it where you don't get any of the diseases you mention.  I'm an ethical vegan, so take your pick of my answer.

However the wife who has a husband cheats on her and gets an STD from that lives in a society where there's no good sex education, because it's taught men that wives are objects to be owned, and thus if you get an STD and she gets it, it doesn't matter.  i don't think either should breed because STD's are a way of saying we're overpopulated and that both live in a society where their child is likely to get it and be sexual abused because of the society.

As for the teens who get it, get them to a lesbian stat!  i learned my sex ed from anarchist lesbians and i've never gotten an STD, even though i've been having sex since i was 14, and some of my partners have had herpes.  And again it comes down to our society not knowing what healthy sex is, and thus why the teens got a STD.  Also teens shouldn't breed, that's pedotastic and shiz.






For one how does being a vegan have anything to do with sex, and keeping yourself sexually healthy? And for two, Lesbians are not any better prepaired to teach sexual awareness or safety then any other person with a particular sexual preference. And because a wife who dosent use condoms with her husband because she'd been with him for 10-20 years, and he cheats on her, thus she gets an STD, How does that have anything to do with her living in a society that dosent teach sexual health? And STD's also have nothing to do with the fact a child could get raped or sexually abused. JUST because the child is born to parents that have an STD, and the child gets it through the blood, dose not single that child out for sexual abuse AT ALL. and Again how is pedophilism have anything to do with two teenagers having unprotected sex?

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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 8:57:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

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ORIGINAL: Shuhaki

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

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ORIGINAL: Shuhaki

*snip* STD's are fully preventable outside of a few rare cases (rape, being born with it, being raised in a society that didn't teach you about healthy sex, etc...if you get one, than dear gods don't spread your genetics.)

*snip*
Am I a bad person if I have a cold?
Or Cancer?
or emphisema?
Or what about dermatitis?

No..obviously.

But why am I so bad if i have AIDS? or HSV1 or HSV2?

somestimes the world just upsets me.


Here's the thing, veganism can make it where you don't get any of the diseases you mention.  I'm an ethical vegan, so take your pick of my answer.

However the wife who has a husband cheats on her and gets an STD from that lives in a society where there's no good sex education, because it's taught men that wives are objects to be owned, and thus if you get an STD and she gets it, it doesn't matter.  i don't think either should breed because STD's are a way of saying we're overpopulated and that both live in a society where their child is likely to get it and be sexual abused because of the society.

As for the teens who get it, get them to a lesbian stat!  i learned my sex ed from anarchist lesbians and i've never gotten an STD, even though i've been having sex since i was 14, and some of my partners have had herpes.  And again it comes down to our society not knowing what healthy sex is, and thus why the teens got a STD.  Also teens shouldn't breed, that's pedotastic and shiz.






For one how does being a vegan have anything to do with sex, and keeping yourself sexually healthy? And for two, Lesbians are not any better prepaired to teach sexual awareness or safety then any other person with a particular sexual preference. And because a wife who dosent use condoms with her husband because she'd been with him for 10-20 years, and he cheats on her, thus she gets an STD, How does that have anything to do with her living in a society that dosent teach sexual health? And STD's also have nothing to do with the fact a child could get raped or sexually abused. JUST because the child is born to parents that have an STD, and the child gets it through the blood, dose not single that child out for sexual abuse AT ALL. and Again how is pedophilism have anything to do with two teenagers having unprotected sex?


How can the word pedotastic be constructed as anything more than a joke?  As for the lesbian thing, i have to argue with you there.  The average older generation of lesbian, from my experience, knows more about safe and healthy sex than the average man or straight woman of any generation.  Though it was meant to more of a joke.

Veganism doesn't stop most STD's, however most STD's didn't start showing up until animal agriculture, and there have been some theories that it was animal agriculture that caused HPV I and II.  Cancer, colds and dermatitis are caused by consumption of dairy and over consumption of animal protein, so veganism would stop your risks of getting that really.

And again i don't blame people who get an STD in a society that doesn't have good sex education standing out there and waving a flag saying to use a dental dam and wear a condom.  If you can't see how society can teach a guy that it's fine to cheat on someone who stopped wearing a condom because she felt she was safe with him (though i still think it would be good to have birth control on the side of the man), and how that can connect to later childhood abuse, than there's nothing i can really say too you.

i'm not saying you're a bad person for getting an STD, just that you did something that was stupid so you don't have a right to bitch and complain about it.


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RE: Getting a VD/STD to be with a partner? - 7/23/2009 9:40:01 PM   
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Ok seriously? Unless you can come up with scientific studies proveing your little pet theroy about veganism and STD's, I'm going to call bullshit, because that sounds like some crap ass PETA propogranda.

Again as for the lesbian thing? Prove it. Give me a study to prove that, LESBIANS know more about sexual health then the average lifestyle person.

Again the abused child/ Man cheating on Wife/ Sexual Health connections? Your going to have to prove it.

Again just because someone has an STD does not mean the automatically turn in to an uneducated, child abuseing peice of shit. This all sounds like a lot of random anecdotal evidence and personal experience drawn out and mixed with your garden variety conspiracy theory (to quote the words of my darling Akri in the last bit anyway)

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