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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/15/2005 6:19:26 PM   
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Protection-- an anomalie in itself---many of our peers do not understand what that means---training, protection, care, guidance--and no collaring and often nothing more---it often happens that students fall for protectors---however, he is your protector, mentor, teacher, you are not his and He is not yours----you need to keep to what you have, nothing more---sad but true

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/27/2005 10:08:21 PM   
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Its highly likely that he is a member here, as you stated that he has a chat room here on collarme. Also its very highly likely that he is watching this thread, for he only has to look at your profile and look under the forums posted too.

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i don't know, but i have been busy lately and having some family issues so i kind of stopped talking to him for a while and every now and then when he see's me he has been kind of nice

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/27/2005 10:37:03 PM   
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I'm a little confused at what it is you've changed in your profile. Obviously I'm not gonna remember all that I read there a few weeks ago but the "barrier" I referred to is still there. Indeed, considering it's supposed to be YOUR profile, that barrier is *all* that's there....

If you go back to page one of this thread and re-read my first post, you'll see my reference and what I think of being directed through a third party dom in order to contact a sub.... In short, I just wouldn't waste my time with such nonsense and I'd find someone else to write to....

As to what to make of his actions, there's a little formula for helping solve mysteries. I'm not sure of the spelling (neither is the Net) or the exact wording but Okham's Razor more or less states that "all things being equal, the simplest, most obvious explanation will be the solution".

And I'd say the most obvious explanation is that he's using the guise of "protector" not to shield you from the obnoxious etc but to shield you from every other dom except himself. In other words, it's for *his* benefit and not yours! And he's now pissed because you've been talking to "outsiders", thus threatening his exclusivity. This is no more the actions of one who genuinely cares for you than having a stalker say the same thing - it's NOT healthy, especially for YOU! And considering he's not pushing to meet, I'd also theorise that he's married or at least committed and he uses you as his fantasy outlet. And since you're not catering to HIS needs as he'd like, that's more reason for him to be pissed. Your relationship with him is solely about his needs and he doesn't need r/l. Mind you, I'd wager if you pushed it, I'm sure he could arrange a quiet day or weekend but don't expect a proper relationship - he already has that!

Revisit your own profile and get rid of the barrier. I'm sure I'm not the only Dom who rolls his eyes and exits anytime a sub is directing me to a "protector" first. Your profile should be mostly about *YOU*! If you're not sure what to say, spend some time looking at other fem/sub profiles here and you'll soon get enough ideas to write something that suits *you*. And you'll also discover there are many subs twice your age who have little D/s experience like yourself, but are worldly enough to deal with geeks without the dubious need for a "protector"! A genuine protector will encourage you with others, not get pissed because you're talking to them.... You're better off without him!

Good luck.

Focus.


Focus,

i am sorry it took so long to reply just have been busy lately and having some family issues. well now time to pick up where we left off in talking.

i guess in a way i didn't understand and i guess now i understand what you meant back in that first post. lol sorry i have been kind of in and out of it lately.

"all things being equal, the simplest, most obvious explanation will be the solution".
never heard that before.

maybe your right. or he has someone in mind and he's just not saying it because he has a girl i found out under his ummmm what do you call it? there is protection and then there is training... and this girl lives only a couple of miles from him. i got to thinking maybe with him getting pissed at me so much he is hoping i just up and disappear or something????

thanks Focus your seem to help me out a lot. the more you write about things i start to think a lot and begin to look deep down inside me like i have never really done before.
maybe i'm growing up more then i think. but i could be changing inside and i thnk i kind of it to everyone who has given me advice. THANKS. hope to hear from you again soon.




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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/28/2005 7:33:54 PM   
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quote:

maybe your right. or he has someone in mind and he's just not saying it because he has a girl i found out under his ummmm what do you call it? there is protection and then there is training... and this girl lives only a couple of miles from him. i got to thinking maybe with him getting pissed at me so much he is hoping i just up and disappear or something????


The action of having another that you "find out" about pretty much proves what we've been speculating. Honesty is one of the pillers of what we do...how honest has he been about his commitment to you? This guy is proving himself to be a collector. I'd be willing to bet that if you contacted his other girl 1)she wouldn't know about you 2) wouldn't have heard about you especially from him 3) is probably newer than you are and happens to have proximity in her favor.

If you're having "family issues" it might be worthwhile to get them addressed and look at yourself in the process. The desire to get away from a bad situation sometimes drives us to accept the crumbs that others offer rather than holding out for what we really deserve. Just something to chew on.

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/29/2005 2:40:05 AM   
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i am so glad that you told her the truth it may not be so but she needs to be aware of what is going on. she needs to know or have spoke to him have his number his name this internet thing is a nighmare i had one dom and he helped me through my thoughts of how much of a domme i was or could be i find i am not submisssive but a domme he hlep me there but was gone so fast it was three years of speaking no wait that was it i never was allowed to call or talk to him that was fine with me but for someone who is searching for that one as someone said boil in side of you or makes you sorry got it worng but someone who makes you melt and do anything he wants and is kind but strict nand firm, then she needs to learn much more. it is not safe manytimes. i wish her well and i hope he is all she needs and wants

and a short note to all of the master and their slaves or submissive ( damn you guys are so smart ) i love reading and just learning from you one and all
( this is important i am dyslexic ) i know many of you know what this means so when reading my letter or post i make mistake it is not that i am not so damn smart it is just my way of writing and i have gotten better thanks all
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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/30/2005 4:02:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: arithea

Focus,

i am sorry it took so long to reply just have been busy lately and having some family issues. well now time to pick up where we left off in talking.

i guess in a way i didn't understand and i guess now i understand what you meant back in that first post. lol sorry i have been kind of in and out of it lately.

"all things being equal, the simplest, most obvious explanation will be the solution".
never heard that before.

maybe your right. or he has someone in mind and he's just not saying it because he has a girl i found out under his ummmm what do you call it? there is protection and then there is training... and this girl lives only a couple of miles from him. i got to thinking maybe with him getting pissed at me so much he is hoping i just up and disappear or something????

thanks Focus your seem to help me out a lot. the more you write about things i start to think a lot and begin to look deep down inside me like i have never really done before.
maybe i'm growing up more then i think. but i could be changing inside and i thnk i kind of it to everyone who has given me advice. THANKS. hope to hear from you again soon.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he does have someone else "under training" because that's just another bullshit wannabe fallacy! This guy is a walking red flag and I'd seriously advise you to get him tha hell outa your life. And being wayyyy over here in Australia, you know I'm not telling you this because I have designs or motives of my own toward you, k? And there's a thread called "Training" by wetsub000 in this Forum that's fairly current; you might wanna take a peek.

You're very young and very new to the lifestyle and you've got decades ahead to look forward to so don't be in such a rush to believe any online dom who knows how to tell you what you wanna hear. And believe me, there are many who can talk a good game to the inexperienced newbie sub, especially one who's not had a lot of life experiences as an adult outside of BDSM, too!

Nothing beats real life experience but you can still learn a lot just from these boards right here. And anyone genuinely interested in you will want more than online contact. But it mostly starts online if there's no community where you live, so start with *YOUR* profile - make it about YOU! And do get rid of that reference to him - no adult truly needs an online protector. If someone sends you a nasty letter, and plenty will, just block and delete them! Or even give them a spray yourself....

And if some Dom writes to you and you think you need another Dom's advice or perspective, you're most welcome to drop me a line, k?

Take care and good luck arithea.

Focus.

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/30/2005 9:26:13 AM   
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after viewing TristanofTreves profile here on CM...all miti can do is look at her, sigh and give her a hug. bless be, child

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/30/2005 5:16:14 PM   
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You are going to get so many different bits of advise about this, I almost decided not to give you mine, but hey, what the hell...here goes......first I'd like to say age doesn't matter(spoken like a true old Master, I know) but it doesn't, what matters is what the 2 feel......second, a year isn't a long time...I'm not saying that this Master is doing this, but many play a game for much longer, be careful....and last, if you feel that you are drawn to this Master, why resist it...but BE CAREFULL....many times, people are not what they apear to be......protect yourself...if he is the Master you think he is, he will want you to feel protected too.

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 12/30/2005 5:44:50 PM   
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quote:

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he does have someone else "under training" because that's just another bullshit wannabe fallacy! This guy is a walking red flag and I'd seriously advise you to get him tha hell outa your life.


So very true. Reading this, I have warning signals going off left and right.

The best advice is to go slow; set YOUR OWN standards, learn, learn, learn, and ask LOTS of questions, over and over again. If something does not sound right, or feel right...chances are, its not right.

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 1/2/2006 2:22:49 PM   
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I know some have long distance relationship but that is not for me. It is real easy for a Master to get inside the subs/slave head. What you need to do is look deep down and decide for yourself. If he is the kind of Master you desire than go for it and age should not matter for if two people connect on a level then it may be right. The only way you can know for sure is to find a way to be in his presents. I know allot of subs/slave can tell you their first Master and how much they are part of them to this day. This is normal for once you start to connect on a higher level and some people can do this over the net. The net allows you to open your self up more of yourself before you even get to meet the person face to face. Before you do why not just be honest with him for he may have the same feelings for you too. Hard to worry about things before you know he feel the same way. Good luck.

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 1/2/2006 10:18:57 PM   
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After reading and responding to your"lost and confused" post and then reading this, my advise is the same. SLOW DOWN!!!

Focus brings a good point - would you tell YOUR 18 year old daughter to go for it?

Reading your responses to the posts made here, it seems to me that your are easily lead - this is not a good thing.

Ultimately, you are going to do what you are going to do and follow advise if you wish in the process. You are 18 years old, and yes, life is to be lived, and yes, something could happen to you tomorrow. You have time and it is easier to take time - if he is who and what he says he is, waiting will not be a terrible thing for him. Always beware those who must have it their way right now.

Jump ship or stay - before you decide, why don't you take a few moments and make a few lists.

List One - what do YOU want from this relationship
List Two - what do YOU want from life
List Three - if the terrible happened, how would YOU support YOURSELF
List Four - What is your personal philosophy of submission and dominance
List Five - What is his philosphy of dominance and submission
Take a break and compare the two - do they match?
List Six - where do you see yourself a year, five years, ten years from now
List Seven - what skills and education do you have to support yourself or even contribute the his household should the need arise

Please feel free to add any other lists to this - if you do this, you must be able to articulate who and what you are, what you believe, and what you want and know if these are compatible with his responses to the same. THINKING IS A GOOD THING!

SLOW DOWN!!! You received some thoughtful responses on "lost and confused" just a couple of days ago. From I don't know if I can be a slave to should I move in with him in less than a week - SLOW DOWN!!!

SLOW DOWN!!! SLOW DOWN!!!SLOW DOWN!!! SLOW DOWN!!!

newflowers

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 4/8/2006 9:34:00 AM   
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to all those around. i knew arithea, infact she had me sign up for collarme and left collarme the same day
i do not know what happen, but i think it has something to do with a Master who left collarme.

talks about some Tristan guy or something on her profile.
just thought i would let everyone know that arithea is gone.....

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RE: i need advice about a Master - 4/8/2006 4:38:01 PM   
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New name arithea?


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RE: i need advice about a Master - 4/8/2006 4:41:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

New name arithea?



oh gawd, someone get us some martinis!

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