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masamichi -> weight loss (9/5/2008 6:44:33 PM)

My Master wishes me to lose weight. i was wondering if anyone would be able to give me good advice on how i should proceed to do so. i know what all the books and such say but personal advice and storys might would help me find what is best for me.

Thank you
Namaste
pet kim




angelspassion4u -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 6:47:27 PM)

Lose weight for yourself not someone else.  No diet or change in eating habit will ever last forever unless you do it for yourself only.




masamichi -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 6:52:03 PM)

i want to loose weight i however lack the will power to do it on my own. i like that my Master pushes me to be better.




AAkasha -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:14:40 PM)



See a medical doctor for a physical and get recommendations from there.

Akasha




MAMandSlave -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:18:04 PM)

I have always found that for me, exercise plus a consistent level of eating....(look at what the MD's suggest for calorie count.) Easier said than done...




CalifChick -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:21:13 PM)

Kim, if you desire to make a change, but don't have the willpower, then I think you haven't found what's right for you.  I also have to wonder if you really want it for yourself, or if pleasing your master is the true impetus, in which case I don't think anything will work for you.  That being said...

You will hear people say "this or that is healthy", but in my opinion, what is healthy for one person is not necessarily healthy for another.  I believe that we are not all made the same... otherwise there would only be one "eating plan" that worked for everyone. 

You have to find what makes you feel good, physically and mentally.  For some people that is becoming a vegetarian; for others of us, that is being a carnivore.  When I eat carbohydrates and sugars (natural or otherwise), my blood sugar spikes and drops, I feel sluggish and get headaches and gain weight.

When I severely limit my carbs to basically vegetables, I feel great, I hardly ever have headaches anymore, and I've lost quite a bit of weight in a little over a year.

The important part is that I do not feel deprived, I can eat this way without too much difficulty (in a restaurant, I can almost always find something appropriate for me), and I can see this being the way I will live for the rest of my life. 

My best friend tried eating the same way, and it made her feel awful and have blinding headaches.  I finally told her to stop, and find something that will work with her body.  It will take trial and error, but I believe there is an eating plan that will work for her.

Let me repeat the key for me:  I will live this way for the rest of my life.


Cali




LadyHibiscus -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:25:08 PM)

What Cali said.

As long as you are in reasonably good health and have no metabolic issues, less caloric intake + more caloric use = weight loss.  The thing is, can you maintain that kind of lower weight?  Consult a medical PROFESSIONAL, have a physical and bloodwork, and figure out what is right for you and what YOU can maintain.  Your health is the primary issue, because you get one body, and how you take care of it will dictate a lot of your life. 




kiwisub12 -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:26:20 PM)

One thing that is working for me is exercise. and i hate it, but it is working. I actually haven't lost any weight, but have lost inches. In one month i lost about 5 inches (measuring 6 places).

  good luck with your good intentions. [:)]




Ialdabaoth -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:32:43 PM)

When my ex and I started, 7 years ago, she was 5'1" and 145 lbs. I wasn't turned on by this, but she was a really fun and smart person.

Within three months of eating home-cooking and walking two miles per night (in high heels on the weekends), not only had she slimmed down to 120 lbs, but she stopped being depressed.

Within six months, she was 110 lbs of toned muscle and ballerina curves, and could stomp down the aisles in ballet boots.

All it takes is the right emotional change, and the rest comes all by itself. Don't worry; you'll do fine.




DesFIP -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:33:03 PM)

Is he just changing your body shape to better match his fantasy or does your doctor agree? At 5'9", he shouldn't be insisting you weigh 100 lbs (for example).

In general, no or minimal processed foods. More fruit and veggies and less carbs. You might want to read "Eat This, Not That". Whole wheat, not white. Brown rice, not white. Sweet potatoes, not white. Slow food.




Ialdabaoth -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:35:40 PM)

However! As somone with an admittedly pro-ana stance, I might argue that there are multiple potentially valid viewpoints on these subjects.

note: I'm not saying that everyone should be twiggy supermodels - that would be a hideously boring world. Only that those who want, decide and agree to be twiggy supermodels should be so. And those who want to be rubenesque earth-goddesses should be allowed to be so. Ana/mia, feeding, working out, training, exercise, curling up in bed - it's all beautiful when it's done intelligently, safely, and in accordance with your Will.




littlewonder -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:41:20 PM)

I lost 40 lbs in 9 months by counting calories, watching my fat intake an exercise...
calories in calories out.
It's not easy but it can be done and  it does get easier once you start.
You have to change your lifestyle, not just your diet.




califsue -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 7:50:25 PM)

I agree you have to find what works for you and seeing the doctor and having a physical is important. I have lost 25 lbs in the last year and although the weight loss has been slow I find exercising has helped with firming and getting inches off even if the weight hasn't come off. As well, I have made changes in my eating habits and I don't diet. That to me is the key because I don't feel like I am depriving myself. My experience with diets is I have always failed on them if I didn't follow them to the letter. If I want a scope of ice cream I eat it without feeling guilty about it. I have also increased my water intake and overall cut back on my diet soda consumption. The doctor just recently checked my cholesterol and sugar levels. I am within normal ranges and not pre-diabetic and my blood pressure is normal. Doctor said to continue what I was doing.




proudsub -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 11:20:13 PM)

When will power is a problem the South Beach plan works well because you lose your cravings for sugar and starch and also it's a very healthy way to eat for a lifetime, not just a quick fix.




rookey -> RE: weight loss (9/5/2008 11:58:22 PM)

I'd say this website is pretty good, no nonsense.

http://www.bodyperformancetv.com/

Edited to add that bicycling is a pretty good exercise.




stella41b -> RE: weight loss (9/6/2008 12:05:33 AM)

Hypothetical situation.

Master encourages you to lose weight and despite it then becoming a relationship issue you succeed and both are happy. Then let's say Master leaves. You are heartbroken, get depressed, put on weight, develop a sudden serious illness for which you need surgery, but you need to lose weight. Only there's no Master.

Then what?




E2Sweet -> RE: weight loss (9/6/2008 12:09:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masamichi

My Master wishes me to lose weight. i was wondering if anyone would be able to give me good advice on how i should proceed to do so. i know what all the books and such say but personal advice and storys might would help me find what is best for me...


As a youngin' I was very heavy, but I've discovered various ways to trim off the pounds that I'm more than happy to share.

First, as its been said here, be sure you're losing weight because you want to, and not doing it to fit into someone else's idea of what you should look like. If you do it for someone else, then each time you feel like you've tripped up along the way is just going to generate a bunch of unnecessary emotional baggage that often times just make you want to eat more... At least that's the way I sometimes felt.

Try to avoid the emotion that triggers the desire to eat when you're not hungry. That, for me, was boredom and sadness. Its much easier said than done, but it's important to try to be under the influence of those negative emotions as little as possible.

Accept the fact that this whole thing will not work unless your lifestyle changes.... permenantly. Dieting to drop pounds is one thing, but the real challenge is to maintain the new, lower weight. That never happened for me unless I made sweeping changes in my life in terms of how often I ate, how busy I stayed, how much I ate per meal, when I ate during the day, how much I ate at a time, whether or not I stayed out of the fridge after bedtime, ect ect.. You just have to find changes that work for you and that you are able to stick to. Introduce these changes slowly or all at once, whatever works best for you. Lifestyle change is difficult at first, but it doesn't take all that long to adjust and then it becomes much, much easier...

Stay out of fast food restaurants. The stuff they serve usually isn't fit for human consumption anyway... Its garbage.

When dining out, order low calorie, reasonably healthy foods. Stay away from big platters. Always order light. If you dine at a place when they don't serve low calorie food that you feel tastes good, then go somewhere else.

Next thing I'd suggest is to clear the house of all junk food, and yes, I mean all of it. If, like me, you do need something every now and again to kill your sweet tooth, then try to find one thing that is yummy but low calorie (I use Jello Fat Free Pudding). Keeping the stash of Oreo's or whatever never worked for me... The house has to be purged, and people sharing your space need to show respect to your desire to change and help keep the junk food out of the house.

Steer yourself toward buying food for the house that is relatively good for you and is not loaded with calories, fat, and cholesterol. Its still got to taste good to you, or you will just get sick of it quick. This took me a while to figure this out, but I know now exactly what to buy and what not to when I shop. Again, no junk food...

As you start to find things that work, and you start to trim pounds, don't let it get out of hand. Make sure to check in with yourself to be sure you're in control of how much you're losing and how fast you're losing it. Its not a race to the finish line, and its entirely possible to push yourself too hard and/or develop a little too much will power and wind up with an eating disorder. That's not healthy.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Again, these are just things I've found that worked really well for me. Others might pick at this and come up with better ideas, but these have been tested and approved by at least one human being who's still alive and kicking. [;)]

Best of luck, and I gotta say, of all the pics I've seen in the forums, yours is my absolute favorite by far! [:)]

Edited for spelling and grammar...yea, both this time...




hopelessfool -> RE: weight loss (9/6/2008 12:26:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth

However! As somone with an admittedly pro-ana stance, I might argue that there are multiple potentially valid viewpoints on these subjects.

note: I'm not saying that everyone should be twiggy supermodels - that would be a hideously boring world. Only that those who want, decide and agree to be twiggy supermodels should be so. And those who want to be rubenesque earth-goddesses should be allowed to be so. Ana/mia, feeding, working out, training, exercise, curling up in bed - it's all beautiful when it's done intelligently, safely, and in accordance with your Will.


no offense is meant but... An EATING DISORDER is not beautiful, its a sickness, having weight on you does not mean you are unhealthy in fact i read in the news just last month a marathoner who was like 2 percent body fat, and ate right and proper, dropped dead from a heart attack. Not only is the ana or mia lifestyle emotionally destructive its also physically destructive as well. When you dont eat, and over work your body, it starts to break down muscle as well as fat, sure fat gone is good, but loosing muscle mass is not, organs start to shut down to preserve energy. For example with Anorexia, you have dehydration, malnutrition, heart, liver, kidney, and immune system damage, infertility, as well as osteoporosis. With Bulimia you have heart failure, infertility as well as gastrointestinal problems, anemia, tooth decay and various other low vitamins levels. THIS IS NOT HEALTHY.  I dont know whats attractive about a dead slave, or one who has to be on medication or have procedures such as dialysis for the rest of their life, because of some Masters stupidity.

As to the op: if you want to loose weight tell your owner, this is going to be cruel, Its not his issue. You will loose weight when you want to. Its got nothing to do with will power, you just dont want it bad enough. YOU have to do it for YOU. Otherwise it will go on and off and on and off much like the dresses at prom. If he doesnt like you for you, then theres more issues here then your weight. 

According to your profile your 5'9 you should be to be healthy at least 160 according to bmi, Your not "unhealthy" by doctors standards until your 200 pounds. And even then Muscle weighs more then fat....




DreamsOfSpider -> RE: weight loss (9/6/2008 1:57:44 AM)

Speaking as someone who's sadly lacking in willpower: Set things up so you don't need too much of it. Don't keep junk food around that you'll have to resist. Go grocery shopping right after you eat, not when you're hungry. Find "exercise" that's fun, like dancing or hiking, not something you need to force yourself to do. That sort of thing. And don't beat yourself up when you slip up... it's counterproductive. Accept that failing and trying again is part of the process, until you figure out what works for you.

Good luck. :)




Level -> RE: weight loss (9/6/2008 3:49:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masamichi

My Master wishes me to lose weight. i was wondering if anyone would be able to give me good advice on how i should proceed to do so. i know what all the books and such say but personal advice and storys might would help me find what is best for me.

Thank you
Namaste
pet kim


Low carb.
 
Read Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes, Real Food by Nina Planck, and In Defense of Food, by Michael Pollan, and take it from there.




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