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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 3:54:51 AM

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I just perved your profile and I don't see a weight down there. So, yeah, first decide if you really need to lose weight or just firm up. Cali is right. What's good for one isn't necessarily good for the other; however, if you expend more calories than you take in, you will lose weight...simple math. I eat less and walk...works for me and anyone can do it.

With all that said, lose it for you, not for him. It's all well and good if he encourages you, but don't make it dependent upon him...it either won't work at all or it won't stay off.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 3:56:30 AM

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My best friend lost a large amount of weight by working out every day. One of my co-workers joined a gym, hired a personal trainer, and has lost a HUGE amount of weight while not changing her eating habits. For them, it's all exercise.

If you're going to make food choice changes I'd suggest setting up an appointment with a registered dietician. An RD is a licensed nutritional professional who can help you figure out the best food plan to fit your nutritional needs. They're nice people too!

If you're determined to do this on your own the easiest way I know of to deal with food choice changes is to use the plate system. One half of your plate filled with non-starchy vegetables, one quarter of your plate with a starch of some kind, the other quarter of your plate with a protein source. To the side either a glass of milk and a piece of fruit or a cup of fruit yogurt. It's pretty simple and it works. Look at all the diabetics who use that plan!

Good luck. I hope you are able to find the choices that work best for you.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 3:58:39 AM

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I'll agree with the OP on 'lack of willpower' here. I hate the gym... like... dispise the place. However, C and I will usually go about 4 times a week together, and flail around for a bit. Other than that, he has two enourmous black labs, and I have a giant fatty weimeraner, so we are always out taking them to lakes, and climbing the mountains with them. I've even bought my dog a lifejacket so I can take her swimming with us. That more than anything has been helpful in toning me up.

I've also noticed I tend not to blow up if I force myself to eat 3-4 little meals throughout the day, rather than the one big meal.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 4:06:36 AM

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Good synopsis of what Taubes writes about http://www.motherearthnews.com/Natural-Health/2008-10-01/Dietary-Fat-Health-Weight.aspx

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 4:08:03 AM

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My best friend lost a large amount of weight by working out every day. One of my co-workers joined a gym, hired a personal trainer, and has lost a HUGE amount of weight while not changing her eating habits. For them, it's all exercise.

If you're going to make food choice changes I'd suggest setting up an appointment with a registered dietician. An RD is a licensed nutritional professional who can help you figure out the best food plan to fit your nutritional needs. They're nice people too!

If you're determined to do this on your own the easiest way I know of to deal with food choice changes is to use the plate system. One half of your plate filled with non-starchy vegetables, one quarter of your plate with a starch of some kind, the other quarter of your plate with a protein source. To the side either a glass of milk and a piece of fruit or a cup of fruit yogurt. It's pretty simple and it works. Look at all the diabetics who use that plan!

Good luck. I hope you are able to find the choices that work best for you.

A lot of diabetics would have terrible blood glucose control eating starch and fruit.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 4:48:03 AM

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for the record - i'm not really dieting. i'm merely changing my eating habits.

Daddy's advice (though it may or not work for you) to me was to cut down on the starches (rice, noodles, bread, etc) and red meat and add more fruits, veggies, skinless chicken and fish. i have cut down on the fast food/junk and started using my George Foreman grill again. i try to have a salads and very little dressing with my meals or sometimes i opt for a huge one for dinner. i don't take diet supplements or join a groups - i prefer to lose it naturally. plus with my job (i review bands/music), i'm drinking lots of water and getting plenty of exercise too.

i have to admit getting started was hard - i love my meat and potatoes however i gradually reduced my starch intake here and there. for example, if we're having grilled burgers, i would eat mine without a bun, very little fries and salad or chicken fajitas - only 3 will do. i'm doing this for myself and to stay healthy. i have future plans and goals that i'm working on ...and i want feel even sexier when that day arrives.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:05:05 AM

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Lose weight for yourself not someone else. No diet or change in eating habit will ever last forever unless you do it for yourself only.

This may be true for some, but this is not always the case. Many who are slaves, have trouble with losing weight while they are unowned, because they need to have a Master as their motivation. It depends on the individual person.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:10:10 AM

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Low carb.

Read Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes, Real Food by Nina Planck, and In Defense of Food, by Michael Pollan, and take it from there.

Low Carb diets are not nutritionally sound and often lead to gaining the weight back afterwards. Though they work initially. Replacing nutritionally poor carbs (pasta, potatoes, white bread, sweets) with healthier carbs- vegetables and fruits helps though. Before trying low carb, read a few nutrition books. They recommend the UCLA diet among others. Basically, follow the RDA food pyramid and reduce your caloric intake.

A great way to track your weight, figure out your goals, and watch your nutrition is: FitDay.com creating an account is free.

Good luck!

anna

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:14:44 AM

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All the studies I've ever read show that motivation has to come from within. OF course, I don't know how many slaves were interviewed. It's been my experience that people who use other people as motivation for weight loss will turn around and gain the weight back once the "motivation" is gone. That yo yo-ing is very unhealthy. No, I think you need to lose for yourself first...you may do it for many different reasons, but the motivation has to come from within. But, what do I know?

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:15:45 AM

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Low Carb diets are not nutritionally sound and often lead to gaining the weight back afterwards. Though they work initially. Replacing nutritionally poor carbs (pasta, potatoes, white bread, sweets) with healthier carbs- vegetables and fruits helps though.

the key is LOW carbs...not no carbs. And with most a low carb eating plan is not a diet, it is a lifestyle.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:20:57 AM

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Low Carb diets are not nutritionally sound and often lead to gaining the weight back afterwards. Though they work initially.

Yes, they are nutritionally sound. Humankind evolved on a near total carnivorous diet. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate.

The only time weight is gained back is when carbohydrate is reintroduced into the diet.

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Before trying low carb, read a few nutrition books.

I've read enough on the subject to fill a library. Much of what passes as advice from "experts" now is bullshit, frankly.

Edited to add: Read Fat of the Land, or Not By Bread Alone, by Vilhjalmur Stefansson. He lived with the Inuits for a decade, and ate no carbohydrate, and enjoyed, as they did, superb health. He then spent, with a friend of his, a year being examined by a team of physicians, and they found ZERO deficiency, nutrient wise.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:28:02 AM

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cutting down carbs and exercising my ass off are the only things that work for me but i need to do both or the scale doesn't change.

OP, please make sure you're doing this for YOU, not him. i've tried to lose a few lbs for others and for me it just didn't work and honestly it made me a bit resentful when it was required of me to do so. good luck and i hope you find what works for you.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:37:15 AM

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I agree with holly and others, the reason low carb gets a bad rap is because people don't really read the WHOLE program lol and they only do part of it and then don't follow the steps and they don't make it a lifestyle an people get scared because the HEAR what is being eaten at the beginning.. The concept of lifestyle and one you complete most programs you get back to a concept of fairly nutritial eating by normal guidelines but with the concentration on carbs and not on fat. It advocates -- good meats, good fats, good carbs, low sugar, and yes it does advocate not eating a lot of fruit because of the natural sugars found in many but it does advocate eating low sugar fruits only making sure you combine it with a protein and eating fresh which means you make everything fresh and shop the perimeters of the store, it means you get your carbs from whole grains and veggies and not sugar and flour and white breads etc. People alway think that low carb means you eat a ton of calories, the thing is you really don't because the food you are eating the good fats and proteins tend to fill you up and keep you full longer than the other lower fat plans or ways of eating. Low carb for some is hard to do because people are use to grab and go and most of the ready made foods are not low carb friendly. Is it the best way? I don't think anyone knows anymore, but i highly doubt what it does advocate as a plan of eating can be considered bad by anyone who really looks at it and understand it. Yes there are things said that its bad, but there are also things that say its good. I know tons and tons of people from various groups who have achieved success but like any diet plan, you have to be dedicated to losing the weight and understanding fully the plan you choose and the maintenance of same. Low carb for maintenance is simply eating healthy and watching the bad stuff, i.e. bad carbs, bad fats, sugar etc. and have those in moderation. Low carb is not a quick fix, its a plan for life. Which is what many don't understand. On any diet plan to lose weight, if you don't make a committment to change the way you eat to mimic a maintenance version of the plan you choose, you WILL gain the weight back -- this doesn't and its proven it doesn't ONLY occur in low carb plans but most "diet" weight loss plans even lower fat plans.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:50:54 AM

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Actually i developed diabetes when i was pregnant and a high protein/low carb eating plan was recommended.

I did my all out best to tell the doctor that Twinkies were NOT a carb if you only ate the creamy filling...a non-carb dairy product. He called me an idiot.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 5:55:25 AM

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Actually i developed diabetes when i was pregnant and a high protein/low carb eating plan was recommended.

I did my all out best to tell the doctor that Twinkies were NOT a carb if you only ate the creamy filling...a non-carb dairy product. He called me an idiot.

That foolish man, what was he thinking.....

Sadly, most health professionals tell diabetics to eat plenty of "good" carbs; borderline malpractice, IMO.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 6:02:58 AM

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Actually i developed diabetes when i was pregnant and a high protein/low carb eating plan was recommended.

I did my all out best to tell the doctor that Twinkies were NOT a carb if you only ate the creamy filling...a non-carb dairy product. He called me an idiot.

That foolish man, what was he thinking.....

Sadly, most health professionals tell diabetics to eat plenty of "good" carbs; borderline malpractice, IMO.

perhaps there was a difference that i was expecting, but i was given a diet that in the most basic terms (mine...not theirs) said to eliminate all white carbs (methinks this misled the doctor in re to the Twinkie filling) and to load up on chicken, fish and green leafy vegs. It worked.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 6:09:06 AM

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Yes, the vast majority of people would see wonderful benefit from eating just meat (and some veggies, if need be).

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 6:11:12 AM

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Jeez, Level, where do I fit in? I'm not a meat eater (well, I do eat chicken). I'm not a carb eater and I don't LIKE veggies....

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 6:12:46 AM

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Yes, the vast majority of people would see wonderful benefit from eating just meat (and some veggies, if need be).

you forgot the Twinkie cream.

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RE: weight loss - 9/6/2008 6:16:52 AM

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i could eat meat with every meal, but with dinner i almost crave leafy greens of some sort. i eat about 3 lbs of frozen spinach a week among the other veggies i love. nothing like a good rare steak sliced thinly over a bed of baby spinach with some crumbled blue cheese and balsamic vinegar drizzled on top. geesh, maybe i'll have dinner for breakfast this morning.

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