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RE: weight loss - 9/7/2008 9:20:10 AM

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masamichi, years ago, in the '80's, I knew a man who convinced his dentist to wire his mouth shut for about 6 weeks. He had enough 'room' to speak, sort of, and to take sustance by a straw, but not to actually eat anything. He lost about 60lbs and because he adopted a lot of 'good living' habits, he's kept it off.

I don't know whether dentists are still willing to do this, and I don't know what dangers it presents, to the teeth or the body. But it's an avenue for quickly losing a great deal of weight I never see discussed anymore.

By the way, the man told his coworkers he was having jaw surgery; no one treated him badly.

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RE: weight loss - 9/7/2008 10:50:15 AM

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Just because it isn't easy, doesn't mean it isn't simple. Simple means the equation is basic, or rudimentary. Easy means you can apply that equation to your life with little effort. Obviously that isn't the case, or we wouldn't be an obese nation.

I'm overweight, and I hate to hear it is a simple matter as much as anyone, but complicating the situation, making excuses and focusing on those excuses won't help one lose weight.

Yes, not all diets work for everyone, but one method does work pretty damn good for just about anyone and that method is: moderation and movement. No, we don't want to hear that. It isn't fun, it isn't easy, but it is pretty damn simple, whether we want to embrace that reality or not.

For those who say "don't do it for someone else," I say do it for whatever reason works for you, but own that reason for yourself. The motivation may seem external, but if the slave/submissive internalizes the reason for pleasing another, then what is the difference?

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RE: weight loss - 9/7/2008 10:50:50 AM

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It's not medically necessary and any dentist doing that nowadays would be up for having his license suspended. It's an avenue for doing permanent damage, and possibly death, as people who tried the once-popular all-liquid diets discovered.

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RE: weight loss - 9/7/2008 11:48:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

masamichi, years ago, in the '80's, I knew a man who convinced his dentist to wire his mouth shut for about 6 weeks. He had enough 'room' to speak, sort of, and to take sustance by a straw, but not to actually eat anything. He lost about 60lbs and because he adopted a lot of 'good living' habits, he's kept it off.

I don't know whether dentists are still willing to do this, and I don't know what dangers it presents, to the teeth or the body. But it's an avenue for quickly losing a great deal of weight I never see discussed anymore.

it is not discussed because it is not done. I had the pleasure

of having my jaw wired after a traffic accident. At no time can you ever be without a pair of wire cutters to release the wires in the case of vomiting. The procedure to install the wires hurt nearly as much as the broken jaw but pain meds (in liquid form) were off limits due to the change in mental status and the risk of nausea, Then there is the damage to the body that a liquid diet causes. Hydration is nearly impossible to maintain as liquids can be taken in small sips only. The weight loss that occured was gained back within a month of eating normally. And don't get me started on what it takes to get the jaw moving normally again. Anyone that even considers this, and any doctor stupid enough to do it, is a fool.

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RE: weight loss - 9/7/2008 5:17:19 PM

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Atkins and South Beach will both take off pounds.

Overeater's Anonymous can help address reasons for compulsive overeating.

"Diets Don't Work" by Bob and Catherine Schwartz is a good look at changing lifestyle to reduce the bulk. "Do what thin people do and the weight will come off." type of thing.

The bottom line is, do you want to change your life or is it more comfortable to be how you grew up to be. A question you have to answer for yourself.

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RE: weight loss - 9/8/2008 3:56:01 PM

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"Thanks for the link, sounds interesting. You said you lost 6 lbs with no change in what you eat, but the vinegar is supposed to make you eat less, so have you noticed you are eating less? "

Yes I feel full eating less and I don't seem to crave the junk food anymore.

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RE: weight loss - 9/8/2008 4:41:41 PM

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No it doesnt. It also includes your fat intake, as well as carbs and protine. All you do is multiply your total daily caloric intake by .25, then divide it by 9. That should give you your daily fat intake per grams. 1 calorie is 9 grams of fat.

Actually, 1 gram of fat is 9 calories, vs 4 calories for 1 gram of protein or carbs.

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RE: weight loss - 9/8/2008 5:31:57 PM

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I agree with those who said that each one of us needs to find what works for us personally. I have lost 20 lbs. since Feb. by running (slowly) for a half hour every morning, doing 15 minutes of weight training for abs and arms, eating a breakfast of lean protein (1 c. 1% cottage cheese or low fat turkey), and just eating sensibly the rest of the time. I treat myself to something small a couple times a week (small ice cream cone or a good chocolate bar) and don't track anything. When I want to snack I usually make air-popped popcorn and spray on some fake butter, or have fruit. I keep my fridge stocked with lots of healthy, ready to eat stuff. I don't own a scale and only know my weight when I go to the doctor's office. I gauge my progress by how my clothes fit--I've gone from a size 14 to an 8 since I began.

I also found out that I have hypothyroidism early this year, which contributes to weight gain. I am on a synthetic replacement (Synthroid) and it seems to help, with no side effects. I know a lot of other women who have this as well, it seems very common in the late thirties, early forties. Before I was diagnosed, I had noticed that I was losing a lot of hair, plus I felt tired all of the time, no matter how much sleep I got. So if you are experiencing any of these symptoms, it is worth getting checked out.

An added bonus for the running--I have tons of energy, it clears my mind like nothing else, and I've lowered my cholesterol significantly. It was really hard at first, especially since I started in Feb, when it was dark and cold in the early morning when I do it, but I pushed and stuck to it, and I am so glad I did. This summer I ran in a 5K race for the first time in over 20 years. I know that running is not for everyone, it is hard on the body. But for those that can, invest in a really good pair of sneakers, go slow, pay attention to your body and give it a try. Nothing has ever been as fast or effective for me as running to get in shape and stay there.

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