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Sinergy -> RE: Religion (8/16/2004 9:12:55 PM)
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Hello,
To clarify a few things on your post...
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Sinergy etc~ here is a list of religions everybody on here should look at. If Your going to believe in the Un~natural then here is a list of religons You might like. Oh and You can find them on the Net~~
This is a look at some of the Cults presiding in the World today!
The word cult is derogatory, inflammatory, and discriminates against the beliefs of other people.
Imagine how you would feel if people who worshipped "blah" referred to your beliefs as "just some cult."
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Islam~ The message of Muhammad. Allah can be traced to A.D. 570
Islam is divided into two main branches, the followers of Sunni Islam, who trace their lineage back to Muhammed., and follower of Shi'a Islam, who trace their lineage to a disciple of one of the early Mullahs of Sunni Islam who determined that that Sunni Muslims were not being devout enough.
Sunni Islam is by far the majority, predominantly in Asia, and various Middle East countries including Iraq, and tend to be rather peace-loving. Shiites tend to be found in Pakistan, India, Iran, Afghanistan, or dying of poison gas because they were rebellious scum under Hussein in Iraq, as well as Palestine, etc., and tend to take a more literal interpretation to the Pillar of Islam (there are 5) which states that a) to die in the service of Allah will bring one salvation and b) infidels must be converted. Some extrapolate this second one out to "or killed" which I dont recall is specifically indicated in the Koran, but those who are not converted dont have a very nice time being dead to look forward to. So I suppose a true fanatical follower of the Shi'a beliefs would believe those people deserve what is coming to them when they receive full-body ventilation with an AK-47.
The cool thing about fanatics is they often use their fanaticism to justify any action they do no matter how antithetical to their belief systems.
But I digress.
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{1} The sovereignty of Allah is paramount: He is the one, true God.
Mohammed is his chief prophet.
{2}Jesus was not the Son of God. He is reserved as a spiritual guide~
Yes and no, followers of Jesus's teachings are considered infidels if they do not worship Allah.
You know what some Muslims do to "infidels"...
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Christians know that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.
A curious aspect of Christianity and other Western beliefs is they tend to be based on Guilt. You are doomed to torment because of what you Did. Christianity use the guise of "Original Sin" for those who go "What I do?" when people call them a sinner.
I have read that one of the main reasons why many Christians are so opposed to abortion is that the fetus is terminated before baptism. If this were true, they would not really care that the child will be born with horrible brain damage, addicted to heroin and forced to live with a drug addict mother, or anything else. Its all about baptising that fetus.
If this were true, and they want the child baptised, but dont really give a good-god-damn what happens to it after it is born, I suspect this is why fanatical anti-abortionists dont tithe 2/3 of their income to orphanages to raise all the non-aborted children they end up saving in their fanatical anti-abortion cause.
And before you call me a baby killer, when I had the Birds/Bees conversation with my daughter I said I would support her choice, but that I really abhor waste and would prefer we worked something out where I would support her to raise her own child.
But I digress.
Well, I need to digress once more.
China and India have both achieved parity of population growth, and are actually declining. This is largely due to gender typing the fetus and aborting females. Apparently, as a culture they have not sat down and gone "Who will our son marry if everybody aborts daughters?"
I have not read anything about the Indian or Chinese homosexual male population, but imagine it is gaining in popularity.
Enough digression...
Asian religions tend to be founded more in terms of Shame. It is not What You Did, it is What You Are or Have Allowed Yourself to Devolve To Become.
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[Scientology~ Started in 1950
{1} God or gods may exist, but the individual must decide for himself.
{2} Man is basically good and in his evolution, he will finally become a godlike being known as “homo novis.”
{3} Christ to them is just a legend that preexisted earth life on other
planets and was implanted into humans on earth. He was no greater then Moses or Buddha.
Yes, and no.
L. Ron Hubbard claimed to follow Jesus' and Buddha's and various other teachings in the development of his works. When one studies his works, and the works he claims to follow (as I did in college) it becomes obvious that he was simply making statements to the ignorant masses to give himself credibility. He also insisted that he was the Prime Source for all that is relevant, yet he flagrantly plagiarized from works done in (study technology, etc) Australia, by various (most of his oddly named "training routines") followers, etc.
Well, might not have been him, since various things developed by Scientology after his death were attributed to him, but then he sold his name to the Church of Scientology circa 1978, so technically they were developed by him.
A curious sub-note of L. Ron Hubbard is that he gave a lecture to a group of writers in the late 1950s where he stated that for a writer to become richer than their wildest imaginings, the best approach was to form a religion. Hrmmm.
But I digress.
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Christians know that Jesus rose from the dead.
The Baha’i Faith~ Dates back to the nineteenth century.
{1} The bible is only one of the many sacred texts in the world, but the final authority is the writings of Baha’u’llah.
{2} Jesus Christ was only one of the nine manifestations of the messiah:
He was born virgin, not God incarnate, and did not rise bodily from the grave.
The Christians all believe that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary
He had to be born of somebody. Now a married woman living with her husband, who was still a virgin, in that particular time period is somewhat of an intellectual stretch, but I can work with it to help the conversation move along...
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And that he was till the day he died a virgin~~
Im trying to think of the historical scholar who claimed to prove that Jesus actually lived with Mary Magdelene (in sin) and the whole "Christ was a virgin" thing was disseminated by the Apostle Paul, a flagrant misogynist. I wish my stupid books were not in storage.
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Buddhism~ Brought about somewhere between 490 and 410 B.C.
{1} Buddhism shows a heavy influence of Brahmanism, gods and goddesses
in Buddha’s history and teachings of Buddha although some other sect add to it.
{2} Buddhism shows a heavy influence of Brahmanism, gods, and goddesses in Buddha’s history and teachings; It’s description of a
universal cosmic conscious is that of a non personal essence, sometimes called the void.
Dont forget that Buddha was originally a Hindu scholar, who broke away from the Hindu religion and developed a philosophy which centered around the individual's relationship with himself as a bridge to his creater, as opposed to the idolatry (use of objects to bridge the gap between self and creator) practiced by Hindus.
My personal favorite flavor of Buddhism is Nichiren Buddhism, which was developed by a dour Japanese Buddhist named (oddly enough) Nichiren. He postulated that all this being nice to people, helping the poor and downtrodden, etc., which Buddhists are frequently accused of being, was all a bunch of hoooiey.
Meditate on the words, which escape me at the moment (little help? it starts out Myo rengi or something like that), and one will find enlightenment.
Hey, he might have been right.
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Christians believe that there is on true God.
{Romans 8-28}And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
There is even one called Swedenborgenism~~
A lot of religions believe there is one true God.
Followers of Kali in the Phillipines would be the first to claim that they Know God(dess, in their case).
Then, of course, you have the followers of the Shinto religion, who believe that kami (spirit essences) can be found inhabiting things, and some are good, and some are bad, but they should all be worshipped.
There are a lot of bizarre (to me, and I am the first to say I could be wrong) sects out there like Sufiism, Mormonism, which claim connection to a basic belief system (Islam or Christianity) in this case, but when you study their beliefs this connection tends to be little more in name than anything else.
A curious point about your post to me is that you completely left out Judaism. A religion of conservative beliefs, who think Jesus was simply a nice guy but did not really play that pivotal a role in the development of consciousness.
You also completely left out the Wiccan communities, who tend to be decentralized, come in numerous flavors, who value nature and emotion and worship the Feminine aspect of the Divine as opposed to the Masculine. While Christianity historically has done much to wipe out followers of Wicca, I dont really recall many incidents where the reverse was true.
Unless you go back to the middle ages where religion could be secondary to attempting to wipe out an indigenous culture by invading hordes brandishing steel weapons. Personally, some cross-bearing horde comes to kill my family with swords of steel, I am probably going to fight back even if they do claim to be doing it for my salvation.
JM, CBW, BTYG,
Sinergy
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