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60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 5:10:13 PM   
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i wish to preface this Op post with the following caveat, which i hope members will adhere to: i wish to report on and foment discussion of a very narrow issue, and not to open to debate the most divisive issue in the US: abortion.

A pill exists which, when taken within 72 hours of intercourse, inhibits ovulation and in a very small percent of cases where ovulation has occured, prevents implantation. The pill is known as "Plan B" and under the law of New York, every hospital must offer it to rape victims.

At least one Catholic hospital in New York is under investigation for its refusal to offer the drug to rape victims. As many would expect, the Catholic Church opposes the use of Plan B on the grounds that it is birth control, and in RARE cases, it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting, which the Church regards as an abortion.

(The Church is heavily aligned with the most extreme of anti-abortion advocates, and prohibits amniocentitus as well, on the grounds that if a couple is informed the baby is defective, they may choose to end the preganancy.)

According to 60 Minutes, the activity of Plan B is distinguishable from that of RU487, which acts to cause the uterus to expell a zxygote. Plan B overwhelming acts to prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy can occur. However, the small percent of cases in which Plan B prevents implantation has given rise to what appears to be unprecedented religious interference in a scientific decision.

According to 60 Minutes, over 40 studies have been conducted on Plan B, each showing the pill is both medically safe and has no "disinhibiting effect" on the use of condomns, teen sex, or the spread of std's. The manufacturer asked the FDA for permission to sell Plan B over the counter, and a panel was installed to review the decision. The committee members voted 24 to 4 to allow Plan B to become OTC. The FDA Director or someone on his staff requested a "minority report" and based upon opinion in that report-- not borne out by facts or studies -- he decided to refuse Plan B OTC status.

The 60 Minutes report stated the manufacturer withdrew its originial request to make Plan B completely OTC and offered one in which a purchaser would need to show proof of age 16 or older, and the FDA Director has responded by requesting more studies which effectively sets the decision-point back years.

By contrast, under both Cklinton and Bush, the FDA has permitted pharmacuetical companies to advertise in what most consider a detriment to the population. Patients now go to the MD seeking specific drugs about which they are ill-informed as to side effects -- adverse effects -- comparative costs -- and other matters which in the past were considered the perview of the MD. MD's, under pressure/profit motives, prescribe these drugs.

When i represented the state of Florida, the Director of its Medicaid Drug Program told me studies have demonstrated that family physicians are generally familiar with about 25 drugs and the new drugs being so heavily marketed are not well-known to MD's as to drug interactions, etc. i was also told that most American MD's have no formal training in pharmacology during medical school.

In addition to allowing advertising of Rx drugs, the FDA, under this administration, and to be fair, under Clinton, has rapidly approved drugs based on data which in the past has been considered preliminary. It has been estimated that the time from submission to the FDA to release to the MD population for scripting has shortened as much as from 10 years to 2 years. As patients in the general population themselves become the actual "drug trial" (under a voluntary reporting system) and begin dying or suffering other serious adverse effects, tort lawyers are having a field day inasmuch as it is generally easy to prove liability.

So on the one hand, the FDA will allow you to take a drug that may kill you or give you a heart attack, but refuses to grant OTC status to a SAFE drug which, taken timely, averts the need for an abortion for a woman or girl traumatised already by a rape, as well as couples whose condomns have torn or others in need.

i am a devote Catholic and will never leave my Church, but on birth control and abortion they are wrong IMO. However, i'm not surprised at the stance taken by my Church; i am dismayed at the fact that a religious institution can evidentially make scientific decisions at the FDA.

i am adding the FDA to the list of the SEC, HUD, and other federal agencies which need a complete overhaul. This incident makes abundantely clear some action must be taken to insulate the FDA from the pressures of the religious right, as well as the profit motives of pharamcetical companies.

Yes, i'm angry and spoke frankly, and yes, i know some people cannot discuss these issues rationally. i am hoping as i said that debate can be limited to granting Plan B OTC status.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 6:33:02 PM   
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Ok, candy, I'll take the first step.

While I personally have no need for the availability of Plan B as an OTC drug, I can certainly appreciate the need that many women and couples might have for it. I completely agree with you that religion has no place in what is supposed to be an impartial organization - one that is supposed to provide the best information for humanity, not a particular faith.

The only downside to this is the misuse and self-prescription of certain OTC drugs - largely due to misinformation and lack of education in basic biology. I know more than one woman who believes that Azo can cure a UTI. I know tons of people who STILL don't finish their full course of anti-biotics, despite warnings against that practice. I know of people who think cold medicine helps cure a cold or the flu. I know many people who don't know that OTC sleep aids are practically the same thing as antihistamines. There are so many people who are ignorant about how our bodies work and how medicines work with/against our biology.

So in the case of Plan B, I'm sure a large concern would be the misuse/abuse of the drug. It's important that the users be responsible people, and there is no way to guarantee that. And I don't know how that will fly in this lawsuit-happy day and age.

Even at that, Plan B sounds like a much safer and 'cleaner' birth control alternative than we have now. If it can be used in place of invasive procedures, I'm all for it being available. I'm still not sure about OTC though. If part of the proceeds from all birth control could be used to better support organizations like Planned Parenthood, and improve reproductive education as a whole, I'd be behind it 100%.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 6:38:06 PM   
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I seriously thought this might turn into "Plan 9 from outer space"; a Bela Lugosi/chiropractor film by Ed Woods.

That not being the case, I now add the thought to an earlier and parallel post that young men want older women because they don't wanna get pregnant.

Translation is not necessary, I think.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 6:45:23 PM   
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Ms. Candystripper,

If the Catholic hospital is a private hospital, then no, I think they CAN refuse that drug. [Although if they accept medicare/medicaid, that may not be the case. I am remembering how the hospitals became desegregated in the first place.]
After all, they have a no birth control [pill] policy (which if you look into the history of how that came about, your teeth will grind). If I am thinking of the same drug you are refering to, it is equivalent to taking three birth control pills at once. I am thinking of what is commonly called "The Morning After Pill."

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 7:59:24 PM   
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When thru time has religous ideals and beliefs not interfer in common sense and choices based on logically thought and consideration. Like the OP... I am a strong practicing catholic... I do go to church every week when work schedule doesn't interfere. Of course, as one can see by my profile and what I have shared on the boards... I have some rather intense differences of opinion with the church. Which is always an interesting discussion with a very dear friend that is provincial of a religious catholic order. Sometimes our beliefs/values have absolutely nothing to do with facts... it is a choice between likely vanilla or chocolate.. blue or red... none is better just different. I will also note that my religious convictions are a seperate and distinct concept from my sprituality and faith.

I don't think we should be surprized that morals/beliefs in general affect our government agencies. In truth, are these governments agencies not made of people like you and me. Individuals that have there own set of ideals/beliefs. However, religious groups power over decisions will sway policy depending on their influence/power they have on the governements of the day. Bush in particular swoon the Relgious right to gain political power... with that came a price to keep the power that it brings. sometimes that price is at the expense of logical decision processes. This is particularly true in areas that relgious groups have a particular vested interest in promoting their beliefs and ideals.

We can talk till we are blue in the face of deeply emotional and passionate issues... but in the end... it is unlikely one will be swayed to any particularly direction that they don't innately align themselve to already. But, where do we draw the line. Where is it that we decide that beliefs/morals should not interfere with the logical decision processes that independent governments agencies should decide upon. Fact is, there is no line that can be drawn. Everytime an issue presents itself and is decided on belief/moral grounds dispite the facts that science and logic bring to the issue, it will only change if such decision has a negative consequence to the majority of the people such agency represents. This negative consequence can simply be the poltical voice against such decisions.

The OP makes an excellant case in pointing out that the governement agency has made a decision on with holding plan B from a OTC is a decision on a belief/moral basis as compared to a scientific/logical decision basis. However, if this decision is not for the majority... then let the majority speak and change the decision. If a minority sees it as an error, then let them fight the battle. I suspect most like myself, will be disinterested in this particular decision at first. I see many more issues of greater importance that this one alone. However, my interest increases when i consider that such influence that religious groups can grow and sway issues that are personal to me and have a immediate determent to my life.

So, I see this specific issue as an example of the undue influence that lobbist groups have upon our decision and policy making governement agencies. It is here that I find the greater threat!.... our governments are not for the people by the people... but for the lobbists with the greatest influence upon our elected governments and appointed agencies





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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 8:54:49 PM   
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OK, you caught me, fuck it. Seems to be an arguement between church and state..........

Easily solvable by a trot to D.C. and get hip to the wisdom of the Judicial wanks.

See how easy this asswipe is?
Wehn you go to the courthouse, that's what youre gonna get; Just Us. For Rich Pryor.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 9:17:24 PM   
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And this argument is where I typically run screaming in the opposite direction. For the sake of my sanity, and that of others, I refuse to argue or even discuss abortion. I listen, and that's about it. I've found that the discussion of this issue accounts for the breeding of more rabid close-mindedness than a/an (insert choice bigotry here) meeting on steroids. And no one ever, EVER agrees 100% on the issue.

The reason I'm posting is more for the sake of private rights than abortion. I think that if a hospital is a private institution that does not receive funding from the government it should have the right to refuse to prescribe whatever drugs it chooses (within a safe and helpful context). Likewise, if its funding comes from a public source, and not solely private investors, it should comply within the terms of the law and not put undo strain on the FDA.

On a bit of a side note, the FDA minority report wasn't specifically Catholic, was it? I haven't seen anything that says it was.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/27/2005 9:32:44 PM   
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I am not surprised at all on the stand the Catholic Church has taken on this one. Like others I do not discuss abortion or it's " allied treatments ".

What I find more ludicrous within the Catholic Church , is the fact that a woman cannot get her tubes tied, nor a man get a vasectomy in the majority, if not all, of the Catholic Hospitals. I know here in New England, most OB/GYNs do not affiliate with these hospitals on a full time basis. I have a friend who had her child at a Catholic affiliated hospital, becasue that is where her OB Doc practiced, and had to go to another OB/GYN a few weeks later, at another hospital to have her tubuligation.

So, this latest news, comes as no surprise at all.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 12:25:01 AM   
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quote:

Even at that, Plan B sounds like a much safer and 'cleaner' birth control alternative than we have now. If it can be used in place of invasive procedures, I'm all for it being available. I'm still not sure about OTC though. If part of the proceeds from all birth control could be used to better support organizations like Planned Parenthood, and improve reproductive education as a whole, I'd be behind it 100%.

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i'm not a scientist, but according to the 60 Minutes report, some 40 studies found the drug to be safe; so women who take too much; etc. were presumably studied. It will be a cold day in hell when a pharmceutical company does more corprorate gifting than a cursory amount; the golden age of tax deductions for gifting has passed. However, i agree you identified the concerns shared by the panel members, who so overwhelming voted to make the drug availabke OTC.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 12:32:07 AM   
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quote:

Ms. Candystripper,

If the Catholic hospital is a private hospital, then no, I think they CAN refuse that drug. [Although if they accept medicare/medicaid, that may not be the case. I am remembering how the hospitals became desegregated in the first place.]
After all, they have a no birth control [pill] policy (which if you look into the history of how that came about, your teeth will grind). If I am thinking of the same drug you are refering to, it is equivalent to taking three birth control pills at once. I am thinking of what is commonly called "The Morning After Pill."

LaMalinche


It is unlikely a hospital could legally refuse to follow state law to dispense Plan B to rape victims. They operate with state licenses; they (almost universally) accept both state and federal funds for Medicaid patients; their Chargemasters are subject to state regulation, etc.

The term "Morning After Pill" is generally used to refer to RU487, which brings on a period and may expell an early pregnancy. Medical attention is required to ascertain whether all products of pregnancy (if indeed one existed) have been expelled for the sake of the patient's well-being. No medical attention is necessary in the use of Plan B. In short, Plan B is a "next generation" drug to RU487 and is superior in safety.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 12:44:03 AM   
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Ms. Candystripper,

No, the morning after pill and RU 487 are two different things. One is an abortifaciant (RU487), while the other prevents the sperm from reaching the egg and settling comfortably in the womb.

The question remains: Are we talking about the same drug or not?

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 1:13:45 AM   
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quote:

The OP makes an excellant case in pointing out that the governement agency has made a decision on with holding plan B from a OTC is a decision on a belief/moral basis as compared to a scientific/logical decision basis. However, if this decision is not for the majority... then let the majority speak and change the decision. If a minority sees it as an error, then let them fight the battle. I suspect most like myself, will be disinterested in this particular decision at first. I see many more issues of greater importance that this one alone. However, my interest increases when i consider that such influence that religious groups can grow and sway issues that are personal to me and have a immediate determent to my life.

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Of course the Op makes an excellent point....i'm the Op, LMAO. i can understand the decision about Plan B might not resonanate as much with a Man as with a woman, but Men have generally got mothers, sisters, female friends, etc. Rapoe is such a horrendous, life-diminishing event and anything that can alleviate suffering is vitally important. Additionally, many poor people use condomns for birth control; but they only have about an 80% success rate; so women need access to Plan B when a condomn breaks; amd may have no family physician to prescribe it.

But frankly what horrifies me about the FDA's decision on Plan B is the fact that a safe drug which would alleviate suffering is withheld due to religious convictions or the need to pander to the religious right. Those nut jobs need their own country so they can establish a theocracy and leave the rest of us alone.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 1:30:30 AM   
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quote:

Ms. Candystripper,

No, the morning after pill and RU 487 are two different things. One is an abortifaciant (RU487), while the other prevents the sperm from reaching the egg and settling comfortably in the womb.

The question remains: Are we talking about the same drug or not?

LaMalinche


No Sir; these two drugs -- RU487 and Plan B -- are separate chemical compositions, with Plan B being the superior choice. It cannot be called an abortificant; it works to prevent ovulation so no pregnancy can occur; it is also able to prevent implantation of a fertiziled egg in those rare cases where ovulation already occured.

By contrast, RU487 causes a spontaneous miscarriage in early pregnancy by chemical means, which is the reason that medical attention is necessary.

RU487 is widely known; until i watched the 60 Minutes report i had not heard of Plan B.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 1:42:37 AM   
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quote:

I am not surprised at all on the stand the Catholic Church has taken on this one. Like others I do not discuss abortion or it's " allied treatments ".

What I find more ludicrous within the Catholic Church , is the fact that a woman cannot get her tubes tied, nor a man get a vasectomy in the majority, if not all, of the Catholic Hospitals. I know here in New England, most OB/GYNs do not affiliate with these hospitals on a full time basis. I have a friend who had her child at a Catholic affiliated hospital, becasue that is where her OB Doc practiced, and had to go to another OB/GYN a few weeks later, at another hospital to have her tubuligation.

maybemaybenot


How nice to see you posting again...where have you been, girl? i seem to remember you have a medical background, so i would not challenge you on scientific matters.

As for the discussion of abortion, i know of no more divisive and controversial topic and that is the reason i tried hard to make clear i hoped the members would restrict their posts to the narrow issue in the Op post.

i am like you; i may have telegraphed my position on abortion but i will not discuss it (generally) because (1) i'm never going to persuade anyone to change their mind and (2) more importantly, the emotionality of such discussions is just too draining for me.

BTW, a question: i thought all women had childbirth and tubal ligation as two separate procedures?

i have also heard that in a Catholic hospital, if a MD must choose to save either the baby or the mother, the mother dies. This may just be an urban myth; have you an answer?

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 1:51:57 AM   
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I am all for plan B but I don't think it should be sold OTC just like I don't think any sort of true "abortion pill" or birth control (aside from condoms and the like). I think it should stay a prescription drug. As to the religious people against condoms and other forms of birth control along with plan B...well I think you seriously need to reevaluate your faith if you think that if god truly means for you to have a baby a piece of latex the thickness of a twat hair can stop his will.

As for the hospital refusing to offer it? Is the hospital privately owned? If it is they are a private business they have the right to offer or not offer any drug they choose. If a person wants a drug they don't offer I think they should have to refer the patient to a hospital which will and provide them with safe transportation to the other faculty. "Safe transportation" being determined by the injuries and status of the patient.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 3:03:48 AM   
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quote:

I am all for plan B but I don't think it should be sold OTC just like I don't think any sort of true "abortion pill" or birth control (aside from condoms and the like). I think it should stay a prescription drug. As to the religious people against condoms and other forms of birth control along with plan B...well I think you seriously need to reevaluate your faith if you think that if god truly means for you to have a baby a piece of latex the thickness of a twat hair can stop his will.

As for the hospital refusing to offer it? Is the hospital privately owned? If it is they are a private business they have the right to offer or not offer any drug they choose. If a person wants a drug they don't offer I think they should have to refer the patient to a hospital which will and provide them with safe transportation to the other faculty. "Safe transportation" being determined by the injuries and status of the patient.

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Wolf, i appreciate what You have said but respectfully disagree with You on a few points. There is no medical, social, or scientific reason to require Plan B be scripted rather than over the counter. It is a safe drug. No one disputes that. i feel Plan B is comparable to condoms.

As for someone's beliefs regarding birth control, some people follow the Church's teachings on the subject, and i do not think they should be ridiculed. However, i do understand Your reaction to the notion of foregoing birth control....to me also it seems ridiculous. As i have said in other posts, being Catholic is not for weenies.

As for a hospital's discretion -- such a myriad of regulatory bodies and state and federal regulations abound to regulate hospitals generally that i cannot imagine any facility in the US with an emergency room can operate with much discretion. You are correct; the laws and regulations (at least in Florida) permitted a hospital which is for-profit to transport an uninsured patient to a not-for-profit hospital if the patient is stable and other conditions are met. Patient dumping, however, is a serious problem and the regulatory bodies and government agencies will punish severely if a hospital does this. i know of no other circumstances in which a patient may be transported to another facility at the hospital's request. As i understand the law; when a Catholic hospital's "views" are in conflict with laws and regulations, they are required to operate within the law.

i think some confusion exists between the different types of facilities. There are for-profit and not-for-profit hospitals; and there is some difference in their legal obligations and rights. A "private" hospital may exist somewhere -- to me, that suggests a hospital which is strictly cash-only. If there are such places, they are still regulated and if they have an emergency room, there are specific obligations similar to those imposed on other hospitals.

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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 4:08:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Wolf1020
...well I think you seriously need to reevaluate your faith if you think that if god truly means for you to have a baby a piece of latex the thickness of a twat hair can stop his will.


I'm not sure of your perspective on the above statement but I am always stunned by the arrogance and conceit it requires to imagine that THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE (presuming he exists at all) gives a rat's ass what anyone is doing at all.

Does THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE care if I jerk off?
Does THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE care what kind of lube I use, does he have brand preferences?
Does THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE care what kind of fleshy hole I put my thing into?
Does THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE care about the gender of my sex partners?

Oh, the horror of it all should I spill my seed. Oh, the humanity...!

I mean, if THE SUPREME BEING OF THE UNIVERSE wanted us to be fruitful and multiply - why did he also make venereal diseases that make doing so problematic?

...

"I'm going to make sex really pleasurable, but I want you to rarely if ever indulge your passions."

"Dude, WTF - why do that? Didn't you also command us to be 'fruitful and multiply'?"

"It's just my way. Think of it as a test of a kind..."

"A test of what, Motherfucker?"

"Obedience."

"Okay, cool...But what's with all of the diseases?"

"Oh, those are just supposed to be random annoyances to make things interesting."

"C'mon, God - stop being such an asshole. Haven't you got anything better to do?"

"I'm sorry that you can't see the bigger picture, as I do..."

"Dude, what I see is that I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. Make up your fucking mind, you childish wanker..."



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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 5:06:05 AM   
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While I agree that this drug should certainly be available to women who choose to use it, I don't believe that it should be sold OTC. I know that you have said that it is a safe drug....but there is no such thing as a safe drug. All drugs have possible side effects, possible adverse reactions and contraindications. Plan B has a laundry list of them. In only a couple of minutes of research I was able to find these:

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/drugs/drug-17838-Plan+B+Oral.aspx?drugid=17838&drugname=Plan+B+Oral&pagenumber=6

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/drugs/drug-17838-Plan+B+Oral.aspx?drugid=17838&drugname=Plan+B+Oral&pagenumber=5

http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/drugs/drug-17838-Plan+B+Oral.aspx?drugid=17838&drugname=Plan+B+Oral&pagenumber=7

And if you look at this link that details the information available in the PDR you will see that it states that many studies have not been done. It also states that the effectiveness of this drug significantly decreases with subsequent or continued usage. This could be an issue if it were sold over the counter, especially among teenage girls who may possibly attempt to use it as a regular birth control method. In that scenario especially I would wish to see it's use regulated by a qualified physician. You will need Adobe Reader to view this link:

http://www.go2planb.com/PDF/PlanBPI.pdf



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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 5:39:59 AM   
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BTW, a question: i thought all women had childbirth and tubal ligation as two separate procedures?

i have also heard that in a Catholic hospital, if a MD must choose to save either the baby or the mother, the mother dies. This may just be an urban myth; have you an answer?

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Most woman who have chosen to have their tubes tied are offered to have them done immed. after the birth of a child. It is two separate procedures, however. If one has a vaginal birth, they are then taken to the OR and the procedure is performed there and then. In the case of a C section it is done after the birth, before closing. Of course this is not a hard and fast rule, some choose to do it later, but most < that I have known> choose to do it at that time.

As for the life of the Mother or the life of the child, I am not sure on that one. I have heard that the life of the mother takes precidence. I did do some research and the following is from Catholic American:


5. Medical necessity. What about the argument that the Church must make exceptions to its teaching when abortion is medically necessary for the mother’s health or a child’s disability?

First, while the Church opposes all direct abortions, it does not condemn procedures which result, indirectly, in the loss of the unborn child as a "secondary effect." For example, if a mother is suffering an ectopic pregnancy (a baby is developing in her fallopian tube, not the womb), a doctor may remove the fallopian tube as therapeutic treatment to prevent the mother’s death. The infant will not survive long after this, but the intention of the procedure and its action is to preserve the mother’s life. It is not a direct abortion.

There also occur, very rarely, situations in which, in order to save the mother’s life, the child needs to be delivered early. But this can be done safely with a normal, induced delivery, or a caesarean section.

The argument for killing disabled unborn children is not a medical one either. There are no disabilities which require directly killing the child in order to save the mother. In fact, disabled children can usually be delivered with no more complications than a child without disabilities. The argument for abortion in these cases is ideological, a belief that it is better—for the child, the family and the whole society—for the child to die than to live with a disability.

link to complete article :

http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0898.asp

Maybemaybenot


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RE: 60 Minutes Report on Plan B - 11/28/2005 6:24:30 AM   
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mistoferin, i relied on what 60 Minutes reported, so i have no basis for argument as to any potential side effects from chronic usage, etc. However, the FDA has allowed certain drugs to become OTC recently -- such as Claritin and Prilosex as well as others. Not only is it possible to experience serious side effects from the PROPER use of such drugs, the public is unaware (for the most part) of interactions which my occur between OTC and Rx drugs or in some cases, certain foods.

So obviously the FDA standard for granting OTC status is not perfect safety. However, as reported in 60 Minutes, Plan B has been studied fairly extensively and NO side effects were found -- presumably the studies also looked at misuse and chronic use.

Regardless of the decision to grant OTC status to Plan B -- and thereby allowing rape victims and poor women access to better reproductive health -- the fact that the decision was irrational and influenced by the religious right is was really gets my goat.

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