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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 9:31:05 AM

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She did fine when her teleprompter went down.

Obama though? Not so much.

Oh yeah, you believed that broken teleprompter story then? You really swallow everything that's coming out of Fox News. They tell you something, and hey presto! It becomes fact .

I'm glad I'm not the only one that's noticed that.

(I just wish all the other news stations were as rigid about telling the truth 100% of the time...thank gawd for FOX).

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 9:31:15 AM

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I saw a poll that said if the Election were held today 90% of the American voters would be very surprised.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 9:35:34 AM

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Is that poll good news, or bad news

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 9:35:40 AM

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Still to soon to say.

Ask someone if they`d vote for Palin after knowing she fired a librarian while trying to ban books at the public library or was under investigation for abuse of power (and stonewalling )or wanted Alaska to succeeds from the US,left $22 million in debt when she was mayor ,etc.etc. and you might get a different reaction.

People aren`t going to vote in incompetence,abuse of power and an ultra rightwing agenda.

Most people believe we`ve had enough of that over the last 8 years and want to vote it out.

Most people know there`s something up with her but still haven`t heard all the details or been able to digest them,.. yet.

Right now they know the official GOP version,but little else.There`s so much there and most people(voters) aren`t political animals (like us

)or partisan.

Most people don`t have conservative/liberal filters that allows them to overlook transgressions in a candidate.Palin won`t benefit from a sympathetic base(like the GOP) with independents and swing voters.They won`t overlook her "issues" with a snap of the finger,like cons have.

Still to soon to say.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:10:51 AM

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And Obama's been outspending McCain like crazy too. It seems like every day I've been seeing articles about how Obama raised X million dollars in X number of days, or in a day. Is he just mismanaging his campaign, I wonder?

With the "lousy job" the GOP has done over the last 8 years, Obama should be 15 points ahead in the polls, right?

The modern day democratic committee is the most incompetent campaign organization ever seen. Their inability to get Gore elected, as the VP of an immensely popular President, is testimony to their incompetence.

And now they nominate a man who clearly has no experience for the job.

Obama reminds me of a fart - all aroma, no substance.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:16:33 AM

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Not everyone can be as poor at public speaking as Obama!

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:18:12 AM

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Just as scary as the ultra performant publicity machine of the Republican party, all for the show, nothing behind the stage?

McCain Palin Public opinion

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:27:48 AM

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Europe would prefer someone it could work,

A Freudian Slip and presume...

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:29:16 AM

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Not everyone can be as poor at public speaking as Obama!

Good thing George was there to correct him. Otherwise some rumors might have been started.

I really like the part of the interview where he talked about considering joining the military.

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“You know," said Obama as if his reply might surprise people. "I actually did. I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.

"And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:32:48 AM

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Europe would prefer someone it could work, not someone it has to view as just another potential aggressive power it needs to keep at arm's length.

Europe does not have a say in American elections. America does not have a say in European elections.

Last I checked, that was still the order of things.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:32:58 AM

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Yea, is that why McCain is protecting his VP choice from the press, not allowed to answer 1 questions since the convention.

And the only interveiw by Gibbson this coming weekend.

Is she going to be the next Cheney, not having to amswer to the people or talk to the press because she works for the President?

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:33:53 AM

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And what's wrong with what he said about not joining the military?

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:36:35 AM

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Yea, is that why McCain is protecting his VP choice from the press, not allowed to answer 1 questions since the convention.

And the only interveiw by Gibbson this coming weekend.

Is she going to be the next Cheney, not having to amswer to the people or talk to the press because she works for the President?

What interviews has Biden given? Oh and just one more easy question, how many public appearances did Biden have between his announcement and post convention? I seem to remember him being put on a shelf for a little bit.

I suspect that Palin will be off the trail after today for a couple of days, to go spend some time with her son before his deployment.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:37:21 AM

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Remember the other taxes we pay. Real Estate, gas, vehicle registration, fees paid for government services. All those and the aforementioned sales taxes, State & city, are paid with after taxed income. Add them together and many more than realize are already in the 50-60% tax bracket; ironically, inversely proportional to income.

If this is true, US citizens probably pay more tax than people living in European social democratic systems many on this board find abhorrent.

I only wish that more would take the time to calculate what they are paying in total.

It's not that hard. Take the bottom line (Net) from your tax return. Add up any local taxes paid from that net such as; auto registration, school tax, real estate, sewer, water, tolls, lottery tickets. Don't forget your social security account payments. The last is the hardest, estimate spending and apply the local, state sales tax. Maybe it's not so hard, if you have no savings at the end of the year, you've spent ALL of that net income. Apply your local sales tax rate, (LA = 8.25%). Now add up all of them and compare the total to your gross income. My guess is that many more will have a tax burden currently over 50% than less.

Manage to save money and any interest earned is penalized with another tax. Save too much and your 'bracket' can be increased and eat up all the money you saved. Now if you have a child you want to send to college you have to somehow allocate from that net a savings account. Get sick, and again, you pay from that reserve.

Unlike the EU, there is no safety net. My question to any supporting increasing the tax obligations from any source - where are you going to get the money; to guarantee college education or health care beyond the current system of no person denied treatment at any US hospital? When the health insurance companies are compressed in the face of a replacement government bureaucracy, which employee level will be most impacted, the 'executives' or the low end, mid manager types? If the Constitution is interpreted to include a guarantee of a college education, will the standards of our colleges be put in the hands of the same people who generated the current group of High School graduates who, in the majority, can't name the combatants or cause of WWII, or can't point to their own State on a national map?

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:39:10 AM

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Europe and the rest of the world can still hope, and pray for the best, clord. You just don't like it that worldwide positive vibes are being sent in Obama's direction, so you're a little miffed :-) .

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:40:18 AM

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I suspect that Palin will be off the trail after today for a couple of days, to go spend some time with her son before his deployment.

How is this relevant again?

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:41:38 AM

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I suspect that Palin will be off the trail after today for a couple of days, to go spend some time with her son before his deployment.

How is this relevant again?

How about in reference to the statement that I replied to? How are your sith remarks relevant?

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:52:48 AM

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And what's wrong with what he said about not joining the military?

This one almost slipped under the radar, and I think is worth the time answering.

You mean besides the fact that this is the first time he has ever mentioned the consideration? After 2 autobiographies, this is the first time it is mentioned, in the middle of a presidential campaign... perhaps I am just cynical.

I like the reason he gave for deciding not to join... basicly he suggests that if there had been an active military campaign ongoing that would have changed his mind.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 10:59:55 AM

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What interviews has Biden given? Oh and just one more easy question, how many public appearances did Biden have between his announcement and post convention? I seem to remember him being put on a shelf for a little bit.

60 minutes, Meet the Press, People Magazine, Charlottesville Podcasting Network, TPM ... and the synopsis of Robert Draper "Joe Biden can't shut up". ::chuckles:: I don't remember Biden ever being put on a shelf. If he were, I'm sure he'd be doing this ...

To answer the second question - going through his stump trail .. a lot.

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RE: USA Today poll: McCain/Palin have 10-point lead - 9/8/2008 11:02:39 AM

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You could say the same of Palin who surely could not have been plucked out of the air for her looks and speaking ability. Surely she was chosen for her sound ideas?

You are talking about the Republican party. They turned an actor into one of the most popular presidents in American history.

The Democratic party is a joke. The only ones who have proven they can beat Republicans at this game are the Clintons and the Democratic voters threw them overboard and now we are stuck with this guy with a funny name and a cheap suit that talks good. Good luck getting him elected.

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