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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 6:40:20 PM

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My collared sub is absolutely a masochist. This was one of the things that first brought us together. He loved the pain that I loved to dispense.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 6:47:57 PM

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I enjoy pain "selfishly" at times. I mean, those times, it's an energy transfer type thing and they get just as much out of it as I do, so it's not purely taking on my part.

Other times, I don't like pain at all, and I just take it, becuase it's what they want.

Depends on my headspace, their headspace, what they want, the type of pain, where we are, what I had for breakfast, etc.

But, gosh when I enjoy it it's goooooood.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 7:28:04 PM

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I like pain for pains sake. LOL I am generally too zoned out to tell if my partner is enjoying my reaction or not. In addition I am an anomally among masochists. I actually feel relief from accidental pain. In times of great stress, accidents reset my tolerance level, for mental and emotional pain.
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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 8:53:08 PM

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Interesting, my experience is the opposite- I find most masochists selfishly want their pain and get pissy/antsy/frustrated when they don't get the pain they love. It's much rare to find someone willing and able to find fulfillment through submission to pain (as pain itself).

Of course, you can be both a masochist AND submit to pain.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 9:03:25 PM

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i too selfishly love pain. i don't think i'm a twue pain slut. i'm more of a pain junkie. i don't like a LOT of pain but what i like i like a LOT. Recieving pain makes me feel alive, erotic, sensual, exotic, and animalisticly sexual. It really does bring out the beast in me, then it leads the beast, like a leash. Pain frees me to be, taking me to a different place where i can be a babbling nympho. Recieving pain is a huge sexual turn on for me.
i also love giving pain. i love that intimacy with someone, the power i feel in my own body as i flog or spank someone. i love to control my own body. i love to watch how they react and i love to control those reactions. i think its just a way to play with someone. Giving pain is NOT a sexual turn on for me.
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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 9:31:42 PM

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Because of arthritis and a fractured spine i can't tolerate impact play ....imagine my joy at discovering needles and cutting .....oooo and branding. One of my favorite scenes was getting a pair of kissing angle fish carved into my back. i guess that would make me a little selfish about the pain, however giving that pain up to the one who owns me only intensifies the experience. i am not one who has a orgasmic experience with pain, it is more a way i have found to build on my self confidence, relieve stress, break down dams of emotion, all while flying

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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 9:40:56 PM

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i adore my pain...at the END of an impact scene or involving things that truly hurt me and that i submit to because it pleases my partner...during?? meh. For a painslut, im the most confusing maso ive met so far. From day to day minute to minute i have a different response to either real pain, or just the idea of it....once im in scene...watch out though. Given the right headspace, i can go so bloody far that i cant see my own way back. Wrong headspace? and im out in 3.

Now that i have needles and knives in my world...things are quite different...the colors are the same but the tone is completely different.

i hope we decide quickly who the truest maso is...cuz thats the one im going to hang out with.

So,

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RE: True Masochists - 9/8/2008 10:08:35 PM

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I never get pissy antsy or frustrated. I am not even aware I need it when I do. But when I do, partner or not, STUFF happens. Broken toes, accidentally sewing my fingers in a machine, stepping on a hot coal. There is a level which will reset, if I need it.
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Interesting, my experience is the opposite- I find most masochists selfishly want their pain and get pissy/antsy/frustrated when they don't get the pain they love.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:14:40 AM

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I like pain, giving and receiving... for differerent reasons.

I find the headspace i get when i'm receiving pain is amazing, I love the way to feels to be sore the next day and all bruised... I love how much it hurts, and I love that the person giving it to me loves it as much as I do.

I love giving it because I love the reactions on the other persons face, I love to feel like I can control the intencity and like I'm really hurting them and know they love it as much as I do. =)

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:31:18 AM

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So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

Yes there are.
It's too private to share.
Not all masochists are s-types. There are many dominants that are also.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:59:51 AM

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Pain is the only thing I'm into about this scene. I have to be restrained too. I love to be restrained. If I was rich, I'd just pay for fine-ass, young, muscular brothas with tattoos to come over and beat on me. And have sex. Then I'd throw a couple hundreds at 'em and say, "same time next week. now get the hell out!!!!!!"
It's probably good that I'm broke.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 2:00:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Inglevine

So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

I enjoy the high I get from pain.

If I'm doing something just to please Master then I'm an ash tray or foot rest... although I enjoy that too ;)

I guess I'm just a slut in all ways.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 2:40:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Inglevine

So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

pain is purely subjective, so the question truly, selfishly enjoy pain? makes little sense for an experience that fluctuates an shifts and modulates as much as my 'experience' of pain does.
Frst; there is a balancing act between the pain i receive as being part of service to my master. As to if i enjoy it or not; on one level absolutely because he wants to deliver pain. But on another level, sometimes, hell no, as it is noxious and being my tolerance and hurts like absolutely hell, makes me shke and want to scream and push Him away because my Master does not play and does not believe in a half hearted delivery of pain.

There are an infinite umber of 'types' of pain and an infinite number of intensities of pain. There are some painless sensations which become painful after so many repetitions.

Ok: i personally enjoy these types of pian (in descending order of preferaence, my favourite is first).....

needle pain
cutting pain
electro pain
scratching pain
pinching pain
burning pain
pressure pain (squeeze pain).
smacked pain
whip pain
crop pain
cane pain

On some days, if there is a sensitivly delivered build up of pain i ca tolerate intensity. On other days, maybe it's hormonal i am a total wimp. i have no limits, but in siuations where the pain is too intense i will thrash around, sometimes pee, sometimes heave as if to vomit, if the pain is severe.

to each of the above there is a reciprocal and opposite releae pain.....clamps go onto nipples and the original pain is very very quickly simply a numbness. but the pain of release can be far more intense than the application of the clamp.

i am not a pain pig. i dread all pain sometimes but the pleasure of toleerating it, so pleases my Master that i tolerate it for Him in order to get my pleasure.

Pain 'contains' me. It gives me definition. It gives me edges. It is a sign of His will and an enactment of Hid ownership. Physical pain lingers which is beautiful.

Now: emotional pain......i have been at heart an emotional masochist for years to such an extrent that those situations i consented to were emotionally harmful. An motional form of self-cutting if you will i've learned to live without emotional pain and am settling into the absence of it. Emotional pain is one which i denied enjoying for a great many years of my life. i have no idea if my Master will want to create situations of emotional sadism in order to test my emotional strength or not. That decision is His to make.

All pain makes a submissive stronger and i think i can speak for others here.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 3:18:29 AM

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I truly enjoy pain... sometimes it takes even me by surprise just how much. Of course I love that my Husband enjoys giving me pain but it is not the reason for me loving it. Just an added bonus.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 5:56:12 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

Ok: i personally enjoy these types of pian (in descending order of preferaence, my favourite is first).....

needle pain
cutting pain

(snip)

i am not a pain pig. i dread all pain sometimes but the pleasure of toleerating it, so pleases my Master that i tolerate it for Him in order to get my pleasure.

Just curious- do you prefer these types of pain because they're the most pleasant/least unpleasant to you physically, or because they're the most demanding in a physical or emotional sense?

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 7:47:59 AM

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pain is cathartic for me. not really something i enjoy perse (though i do enjoy my beatings in a more physical way too, yeah i get off on them litterly) but the. fact is cathartic is more of a reason for doing it then the fact i enjoy sexual pleasure from it. Jesus how to explain this. Sometimes, i get off from it. But the other half the time its a cleanseing thing, emotionally, spiritually.

But no im not selfish about it in the slightest. I dont DEMAND pain from Master, that would be selfish. He gives it to me when he thinks i need it though, and hes pretty good at reading me.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 12:34:31 PM

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I do not enjoy or want the pain. But, the pain always comes...
When the pain is adminstered by my Dominant, I endure it for Them, it's not about me.
I always end up being with Sadists that thrill in Their expertise of pain and how much the flesh and mind can take.
The Sadist who keeps me from going to subspace, no matter how much my body wants too, is a new experience for me...He loves the absolute control of my body and mind and it is to be 100% focused on Him.

Does this make me a masochist?

I endure the pain for His pleasure.

(damn...it sure seems I'm going through the gates of Hell at times!)

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:07:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gleegal67

I do not enjoy or want the pain. But, the pain always comes...
When the pain is adminstered by my Dominant, I endure it for Them, it's not about me.
I always end up being with Sadists that thrill in Their expertise of pain and how much the flesh and mind can take.
The Sadist who keeps me from going to subspace, no matter how much my body wants too, is a new experience for me...He loves the absolute control of my body and mind and it is to be 100% focused on Him.

Does this make me a masochist?

I endure the pain for His pleasure.

(damn...it sure seems I'm going through the gates of Hell at times!)

you are dear one. Aint life grand? All the cool people are there anyway.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:17:51 PM

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Selfishly
I like pain because it poses a psychological challenge to me.
It doesn't physically arrouse me ... unless its psychological or emotional pain.
I like to be made to endure suffering.
I do not like to be brutalised - so it is a fine balance to create and uphold for my play partners.
Selflessly
I like to prove my attachment to a partner .. by suffering beyond what I enjoy .. because they enjoy it. ( I know people dislike the idea of "proving oneself" .. but it works for me... and thats what matters)

Have recently started colour coding how pain works for me White/Grey/Black .... White = pain that is totally fine (painful obviously) but what I can manage. Grey = where I am being pushed and challenged, where a new line of endurance is being created, where I am experienceing and managing new and differnt levels of pain for the first time. Black = pain I cannot manage, that is overwhelming, and that if I had the power to I would end.
The above is not like a traffic signal safewording system. But after play .. when I am discussing what happened with my Top .. we discuss how I felt about the pain during different aspects of the play. The colours fitted because sometimes things are just black = nasty and white = yummy ... but often there are shades of grey where I am uncertain about how I feel about that particular type of pain, or uncertain about where it was taking me.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 1:56:20 PM

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Persephonee...life truly is grand...and I always wondered where the cool people hung out...do I get my decoder ring? Or is there an initiation...uh oh...I knew the pain always comes...in one form or another! ;)

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