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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 4:27:41 PM

subbisherri

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Well, I'm certainly glad to know that there are so many others who feel the same way!

I like pain, I love pain. It's not about low self-esteem, it's not about craving attention so as to allow someone to do things I don't want. It's not that much (not so far) about submitting. It's not even always sexual.

Sometimes it produces similar feelings to physical training; throwing 150 lb of grain sacks on the shoulders and humping up a hill to see if you can beat your best time; or trying to best the time of the Crossfit.org workout of the day. Sometimes the high is more emotional than physical: gee, I DID that! Sometimes it turns me on so much that the next man who penetrates will get his manhood ripped out; sometimes it's a feeling to curl up with and savour.

Sometimes it's because the person giving is having a blast while the person receiving (moi) isn't, but that's okay because it's not supposed to be always about me. And I can groove on someone else's enjoyment too.

Sometimes the person giving doesn't really like what they're doing to the person receiving (moi), and I am so thankful that I know people who will do that to me and for me.

So yeah: I like horses, cats, summer rain and sunsets, the aroma of cottonwoods in the spring... and pain, among other things. And not necessarily in that order.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 4:28:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: sodsta

I like pain. I like the chemical reaction that takes place in my brain. I like the altered state of consciousness I go into when receiving pain. It's like being tipsy or stoned. It's amazing. I love the way pain feels... which I think is a pretty obvious thing to say, really, lol. I like immediate pain and I like the after-effects of pain.

And not only do I love pain on a physical level, I also love it on a more emotional level, because taking pain... especially severe pain... makes me feel strong and empowered. I come away from most intense scenes with a real sense of pride and accomplishment... and a slightly fuzzy head, lol.

Exactly.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 5:14:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gleegal67

Persephonee...life truly is grand...and I always wondered where the cool people hung out...do I get my decoder ring? Or is there an initiation...uh oh...I knew the pain always comes...in one form or another! ;)

Well, lemme tell you . If you come to my town and can pass initiation...daunting tasks involving....(oops i almost spilled it)...you might get to wear one of our super cool hot pink uniforms...you could be a member of the Pussy Posse...vaginal vigilantes....

we are mighy attack subs who roam the dungeon looking for injustices and then we right them.
If you can handle some real pain....you may be eligible to join the SEP....the scary edge players....but that remains to be seen.

No decoder rings yet but airbrushed tees and slutty undies are all cool accessories too.

peace and pleather

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RE: True Masochists - 9/9/2008 7:03:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Inglevine
So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

I can't tell you about "subs" because I'm not one. What I describe myself as right now is a heavy masosadistic bottom switch with a service fetish.

In other words, yes I like pain, both receiving and giving. But, the more my playmate likes it, either giving or taking, the more I enjoy it too.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 12:04:29 AM

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Yes, to all of the above. I love giving My Lord the pleasure of inflicting the pain, I love the feeling of it. I sometimes hate the pain, but love pleasuring him, sometime selfishly just don't want him to stop. Either way, it's pleasure, sex, and fun.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 8:32:19 AM

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i cant take much physical pain, but He has a way of bringing intense emotional pain. without insulting or degrading me He is able to take me to a place where i feel i will stop breathing from the intensity. hot heavy tears that burn my cheeks . despair so black and deep that surely it must be hell and this my punishment for all eternity. then He brings me back safe in His arms . my body exhausted , my mind at ease and full of wonder at what this Man is capable of.
i submit to physical pain because it pleases Him.this submission is pleasurable because like everything else its something i do for Him.His pleasure is my pleasure.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 1:12:36 PM

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I’m just passing through but thought I’d drop these words on you to consider about the reality of whether pain really exists and to what degree.

Pain Thresholds
Pain is an emotional reaction according to some research. Have you ever cut yourself without knowing? It didn’t hurt until you saw the wound. You get the idea, pain itself just isn’t a physical reaction. It is your emotional interpretation of it.

In my understanding of the BDSM realm, there are 2 kinds of pain basically. There is “symbolic” pain that many think of as “good pain”. I call it “slap and tickle”. Then there is a more serious pain, the kind of stuff that would evoke a confession from a prisoner in a witch hunt.

When you cross the pleasure/pain boundaries, most everything just becomes stimulus that heightens your passion. You don’t have to be a masochist or even into BDSM to cross that threshold. I took many a vanilla girl there in my teens and they were astounded at their collection of bites, bruises and injuries after the endorphins wore off. You get so stoned on endorphins, someone could saw your leg off and it would only make you cum harder while you shouted “do it again, I have another leg”!

So how do you meter/measure the experience of “pain”?

The OP asks if subs really like pain… I say the answer is NO but subs never experience “pain” in the first place. Now masochism on the other hand…

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 4:25:18 PM

DieSchadenfreude

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While I am not a submissive, I am a masochist. I enjoy most types of pain and can even orgasm from the proper application of pain. Certain types of pain are entirely enjoyable and arousing for me, for others, I only truly enjoy the stinging afterglow.

But I have always wondered why my body reacts this way.. Are my nerves simply different from most others? Or does my brain simply misinterpret the message from it's receptors? Are the messages of pain and pleasure getting mixed through 'cross-wiring'? I really wish that scientific studies on this incredible neurology/sexuality would exist.

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Es tut so weh, so wohl hernach, wer straubte sich dagegen?
It hurts so badly, so well hereafter, so who would resist against it?

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 4:28:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: DieSchadenfreude

I really wish that scientific studies on this incredible neurology/sexuality would exist.

They do.

(Google)

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 5:00:12 PM

MissChrisSays

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I differentiate pain sluts and subs, Pain sluts are not submissive. necessarily nor are all submissives into pain. I love when I find a mixture.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 5:11:10 PM

sonofthedawn63

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Pain releases endorphines and an individual with any amount of psychological trauma from thier past can only release their inner "angst" from the sudden discharge of this chemical. It's not as simple as that but it is a basic rundown. It's sort of like parachuting. It is a "rush".

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 6:35:00 PM

awakenednj

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Inglevine

So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

Why choose? Can't it be both? I love the pain for itself. I scream and buck and absolutely adore it. Its delicious- searing through my mind and body.. Even better when he lets me to that place where I float and any touch from him is electric and caressing whatever bruise or welt it leaves. I love that he knows to let me scream it out and keeps hurting me... and somehow always knows when I am really *done*.

But... It is much harder to accept the pain from anyone but Master. My brain just won't connect that even if he sends me to another it's still for him.. and I just can't endure it the same way... It becomes just an exercise in endurance. He knows this, and gives instructions to anyone he lets use me.. and they never go as hard as him because I just can't take it.

Soo... I guess for me the 2 things are intertwined. If I can't see his pleasure from it, than the magic of it breaks down somewhere.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 6:42:19 PM

kallisto

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ORIGINAL: awakenednj

Why choose? Can't it be both? I love the pain for itself.

Soo... I guess for me the 2 things are intertwined. If I can't see his pleasure from it, than the magic of it breaks down somewhere.

A great way to put it. Can't say it any better.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/10/2008 10:29:37 PM

Gorgias

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I'm kinda a picky masochist,

Nothing gets me out of subspace faster than spanking, flogging and various other whipping activities I can enjoy without it being necesarily sexual nipple clamps and hair pulling get me hard.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/11/2008 10:31:25 AM

Gleegal67

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quote:

ORIGINAL: persephonee

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gleegal67

Persephonee...life truly is grand...and I always wondered where the cool people hung out...do I get my decoder ring? Or is there an initiation...uh oh...I knew the pain always comes...in one form or another! ;)

Well, lemme tell you . If you come to my town and can pass initiation...daunting tasks involving....(oops i almost spilled it)...you might get to wear one of our super cool hot pink uniforms...you could be a member of the Pussy Posse...vaginal vigilantes....

we are mighy attack subs who roam the dungeon looking for injustices and then we right them.
If you can handle some real pain....you may be eligible to join the SEP....the scary edge players....but that remains to be seen.

No decoder rings yet but airbrushed tees and slutty undies are all cool accessories too.

peace and pleather

perse

Pussy Posse...Vagina Vigilantes...Scary Edge Players...Oh my!!!

The things I'd do for a pink uniform and sexy accessories...really...the things I'd REALLY do for sparkly, satiny, edgy, sexy...I'm soooo in for the initiation!!

I have my pink feathery pen in hand...where do I sign up again?

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RE: True Masochists - 9/11/2008 3:00:09 PM

BlackPhx

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I never get pissy antsy or frustrated. I am not even aware I need it when I do. But when I do, partner or not, STUFF happens. Broken toes, accidentally sewing my fingers in a machine, stepping on a hot coal. There is a level which will reset, if I need it.
Kyst

Thank the stars that be that I am not the only one that goes through this. Unlike you though I do tend to start bouncing off walls and can become short tempered and prickly. Accidents tend to pile up quickly and illnesses. Here is the rub..I can't articulate it, and all too often Master misses the clues cause he is in and out of town so much.

I am selfish. My Pain...MINE..don't stop and insist on sex...don't play bump the uglies...when I am like that I want pain..a nice slow build up and please be prepared to dance for hours and lose at least 5 lbs of water as well as the ability to move your arm with a whip in it. Fortunately it is not often or Master would have one arm that looked like he stole it from King Kong. Fortunately he is a Sadist...unfortunately he is also a dominant and we clash on the submission thing often...sigh. But I do make a lovely puddle when the dnce is GOOD!

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RE: True Masochists - 9/18/2008 12:39:01 AM

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in response to the OP- in our relationship, it's kind of the opposite. Master is a slight sadist, but the pain is mostly a reward for me. i have a history of self-injury- not for sexual reasons, but as an emotional release. Master has been helping me stop cutting by experimenting with my masochism in a safe, controlled way. bonus points, it really gets me going. :-P

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RE: True Masochists - 9/18/2008 12:55:13 AM

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For me pain is definitely something I enjoy. I am not one to act up to receive pain, but rather make sure that the person I am with knows just how much I love it. I find that after a nice spanking I will be soaking wet and very excited. I don't consider myself a masochist or a pain slut, but I do love to be whipped until I am in tears. Then I love to be held and have those tears kissed away.

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RE: True Masochists - 9/18/2008 1:05:12 AM

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**FR**

Another pain slut here! I've been reading this thread with interest, and learned a few things on the way!

When I'm bottoming, I'm a pain slut. The sub part tends not to make much of an appearance. When I'm doing D/s with someone I care for deeply, then I'm a submissive pain slut.

For me, pain is about intensity. I always found 'nilla sex to be boring, mainly cos I found it hard to get aroused from gentle touch and stimulation. I find now that pain serves several purposes - first of all the sheer sensation turns me on BIG time. Then there's the control aspect - he/she is doing this to me and therefore I'm doing as I'm told...again, very hot.
But what is really crucial for me is that during sex, if I feel pain it zooms straight to my clit - turning a "nice feeling" into a truly awesome orgasm. Pain supplies the intensity of sensation that I can't get from sex alone.

But that's just me...

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RE: True Masochists - 9/18/2008 1:09:12 AM

RapierFugue

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Inglevine

So, are there subs out there who truly, selfishly enjoy pain? I've talked to many subs who say they "like" pain, but then it turns out that they really like taking pain because it pleases their Domme.

I'd love to hear about the experience of pain from subs perspectives.

Oh there are “true” masochists around, believe me … I used to know a girl who liked to turn up at my place, be beaten severely for a long, long time (sometimes hours), then suck me, then leave. No sexual contact whatsoever from her POV, but she would cum time after time after time while being beaten.

She didn’t want to do anything else, so for me it became pretty repetitive and boring after a while, hence me ending it, but there was no question that she wanted, and indeed needed, the pain.

I’ve seen similar responses in other girls too, although not to quite that extreme, many times over, so yes, they do exist. The responses in this thread would seem to indicate it is, thankfully, all too common

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