ThatDaveGuy69
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Wow! Quite a thread going on here! Just a few points and I'll crawl back under my rock. I think it's just as important to know the VP candidate as it is to know the presidential candidate. It's often tossed around that at McCain's age he won't survive a full term. If there's even one iota of truth to that then we better know everything there is to know about Sarah Palin. Same goes for the Democtratic contenders. Will a McCain/Palin white house mean an end to legal abortions? Of course not! But what it will do is the same thing that Reagan, Bush Sr, and Bush Jr. have done throughout their presidencies: encourage/aid/abet the religious right to press harder and harder at the local level to make it more and more difficult for a woman to make that very difficult decision. That's the real fear of having another round of Republicans in the white house, at least on the abortion issue. Palin has shown by her support of abstinance "education" that she is completely clueless when it comes to the real world of men and women. Abstinance didn't prevent her daughter from becoming pregnant. BTW: What is the age of consent in Alaska? And her "fiance" is just as much to blame. Last time I checked you could buy condoms at just about any drug store or gas station men's room. Abstinance is about as usefull as "Just Say No" was in the 80's. Random thought: pols always mention "except in the case of rape or incest". Please tell me when incest is not rape? And please, no jokes about southern states. That's just too easy. A couple other fun Palin points: She was all gung-ho for the "bridge to no-where" when she was the mayor of that little town. She did a quick 180 when it became a scandal. But here's a minor detail the media isn't bothering to mention: as governor, she did not even try to give back the $325 million. As governor, she lead the push to legalize the hunting of wolfes from aircraft. For "sport". Not in the case of having too many wolves or if a wolf roamed into a populated area. Simply for the fun of it - as if there were such a thing. As for Obama, I doubt he's half the miracle-man his most fervent supporters want him to be. But come on! Do we really want another administration virtually idntical to the current one? OK, so merely "not being the same" isn't nearly enough to run on. And yes, he's got a lot to answer for: too many missed votes in the Senate, Tony Reszko, lack of experienc, etc. I'd rather have a sincere, well-educated person at the helm who is NOT just another Washington insider than another hack, career politician. The last time we had such a clear choice we got a barly-educated, hack, business failure. Can anyone here really say they are happy with GWB and wish he could serve another 4yrs? My favorite bit of Repub retohric is when they say they are the party of change. Uhm... change from what? From the last 8 years of a Republican administration? Can't they do any better than to mimic the Democrats? And I really love when McCain insists that Obama will raise taxes. Just exactly who does he think is going to pay for the obscene deficit Bush has racked-up? A trillion is a pretty tough number for most people to wrap their head around. The US national debt is around $9,694,382,524,910. That's about 9.7 trillion, or roughly $32,000 for every man, woman, AND child in the US. And that number goes up by almost $2 billion a day. We are truly borrowing from China and India to pay for Middle East oil. Let's not BS ourselves: taxes will increase no matter who gets elected. The only point I've heard McCain make that I've agreed with is his plan to build as many as 45 nuclear power plants. We need to stop burning coal to make electricity, plain and simple. I would take his proposal a step further: I would commission the Navy to design a standard model nuke plant. France adopted a stadard model decades ago. A plant operator can go to any plant in France and step right into the job with minimal re-training. In the US, no 2 plants are anything alike. And why the Navy? Because the have the absolute best record of nuclear safety in the world. Ya know, I've never met anyone who claimed he or she was "pro-abortion" just as I've never met anyone who is "anti-life". For me - a man - it comes down to a matter of choice at the single-most private of levels. I'm pretty sure it's not anyone elses' business if a woman decides to terminate her pregnancy. And all this "parental consent" crap just clouds the issue. Sure, we all wish that every pregnant teen could have an open discussion with her parents. And I really hope that most can. But what about those few who can't? Would you send them home with a court order to an abusive parent? Oops, seems I've rambled on a lot more than I had planned. Seems to happen a lot around here :D Peace, love, and flying cars in my lifetime! ~Dave Shields up - flame away!
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