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Untouched1282 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 4:49:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued Racquelle, quote: Plus, I get to leave my dick in the car when I don't need it. The topic is dommes wearing strap-ons and perceived penis envy, not men (submissive or otherwise). Please do try to stay on topic. :-) Elan. It has nothing to do with penis envy. Please do not be trite.

JerryFrankster -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 5:06:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 quote: ORIGINAL: MmeGigs You have no experience in this area but you're telling folks who are actually doing this stuff that they just don't get it - that they're not looking at it the right way. Do you think that makes sense? Yes I do. Because the strap-on is being used by dominants, not subs. Correlation doesn't equal causation but come on now... This is news to me.

thishereboi -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 7:25:42 PM)
As a sub who has use a strap on many times, I can tell you, it never made me dominant.

Untouched1282 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 8:08:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi As a sub who has use a strap on many times, I can tell you, it never made me dominant. Not saying the action MAKES someone dominant. I'm saying it puts them in a dominant position. It's still based on your mindset. Why did you use it, though?

yidproquo -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 9:21:01 PM)
quote: Not saying the action MAKES someone dominant. I'm saying it puts them in a dominant position. It's still based on your mindset. Really? Because a femme top ordering her butch bottom to strap one on and fuck her does not seem to me like the one with the cock is in a dominant position any more than a male sub ordered to fuck his mistress is in a dominant position.

steffie -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 11:48:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 I'm mostly curious to find out why the strap-on is linked to the D/s lifestyle. What is it about anal penetration, especially initiated by a female, that causes it to be seen as symobolic of this lifestyle, even if only done in the bedroom? My last Mistress used her strapon (that she had named "Gustav") quite simply because it gave her pleasure. Mind blowing orgasms. I can't speak for what was going on in her head, and she never spoke about symbolism, I just know that physically it took her to the moon and back. Nor would i want to presuppose that all Domme's get the same thing out of their strapon. Everyone is wired diffferent. There are no generic answers. Only individual experience.

Untouched1282 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 11:53:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yidproquo quote: Not saying the action MAKES someone dominant. I'm saying it puts them in a dominant position. It's still based on your mindset. Really? Because a femme top ordering her butch bottom to strap one on and fuck her does not seem to me like the one with the cock is in a dominant position any more than a male sub ordered to fuck his mistress is in a dominant position. Dominant in terms of the PHYSICAL.

Untouched1282 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/12/2008 11:54:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: steffie quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 I'm mostly curious to find out why the strap-on is linked to the D/s lifestyle. What is it about anal penetration, especially initiated by a female, that causes it to be seen as symobolic of this lifestyle, even if only done in the bedroom? My last Mistress used her strapon (that she had named "Gustav") quite simply because it gave her pleasure. Mind blowing orgasms. I can't speak for what was going on in her head, and she never spoke about symbolism, I just know that physically it took her to the moon and back. Nor would i want to presuppose that all Domme's get the same thing out of their strapon. Everyone is wired diffferent. There are no generic answers. Only individual experience. Well said, Miss. Thanks for not going on the attack. Again, I was not attempting to make a universal claim, or a claim at all for that matter. I was simply asking questions -- and people got a little upset, I guess.

malloves69 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 4:20:54 AM)
my mistress fucked my ass good yesterday with the 10 in strapon and im still smiling [:)] love the way she looks when wearing it [:)] love how she prepares me to accept it as it slowly slides all the way in [:)] the way she lubes it first ..then she lubes my ass with her fingers ...love her touch [:)] loving ..caring ...like the woman she is but still being dominant and in control woman that she is too [:)] from when the head slowly slides in until the balls slap my ass that feeling is amazing as it opens me up for her and i relax and enjoy the many feelings that it causes as she has her way with my ass [:)] first slowly and then she really lets me have it to remind me who is in charge as she takes me doggy style over and over again [:)]after a while she loves laying flat on me as i feel her warmth and smoothness of her sexy body while she holds my hands spread to get better position as i feel go in and out of me ..that feeling really is amazing [:)] when she pulls out she compliments me how clean i am for her and yes i do enemas before to make sure i am for her [:)]after she was done she left the strapon in me and told me to roll over and then she sat on my face because she wanted me to see how turned on and wet she was [:)]the lady is amazing and i love our times together [:)]all i know is gawd im hooked and i need to feel that at least once a week ..love strapon play [:)] yes she fisted me too 3 times yesterday but this is a strapon post ..just thought i would share [:)] the after glow has kicked in ..love that just got fucked and fisted feeling [:)]for those men who havent tried it ..please do ..it can be a great thing to share with your lady as she has her turn with your ass [:)] have fun ..mal ..she might wear that strapon but i still love the woman she is [:)]

pixelslave -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:24:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 quote: ORIGINAL: MmeGigs You have no experience in this area but you're telling folks who are actually doing this stuff that they just don't get it - that they're not looking at it the right way. Do you think that makes sense? Yes I do. Because the strap-on is being used by dominants, not subs. Correlation doesn't equal causation but come on now... I hate to blow your theory Untouched, but I've known of male subs who were told to wear hollow strap-ons over their penises as a way of pleasuring their Mistress without receiving any sensation for their own pleasure. In such cases, clearly the strap-on wasn't being worn by the dominant, although I'd say it was being used by her for her purposes in order to humiliate and control the submissive. However, I don't think this is anywhere close to what you had in mind when you originally posted. [&:] - pixel Lady Pact's bleaux

thishereboi -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:37:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi As a sub who has use a strap on many times, I can tell you, it never made me dominant. Not saying the action MAKES someone dominant. I'm saying it puts them in a dominant position. It's still based on your mindset. Why did you use it, though? It didn't put me in a dominant position, I was a submissive the whole time I used it. I used it when my Mistress was in the mood to be fucked and told me to use it. I have also used them when ever I was having sex with someone and wanted to fuck them or if I am alone and in the mood to masturbate. As to why I use them......because they can add to the sexual experience and they are fun. Why do you use your dick?

RichieB -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:40:13 AM)
fast reply this thread is becoming very funny

thishereboi -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:40:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 Dominant in terms of the PHYSICAL. So if she has me strapped to a table and is riding my strap on like a rodeo star.....then I am physically dominant? Nah, I don't think so.

Lynnxz -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:41:55 AM)
It was an honest, curious question. I'm nost sure why everyone is up in arms (and dicks) about it.

pixelslave -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:48:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: malloves69 yes she fisted me too 3 times yesterday but this is a strapon post mal, Not to wander too far OT, but how does one get fisted 3 times in one day? There must be something I'm missing. Perhaps your Mistress takes a break before going back to it and you count that as another time? Once open, I'm having trouble seeing how that would be count as another time, but you may be using a different kind of math than mine. [;)] At any rate, I understand and appreciate your enjoyment of anal activities and am happy for you regardless of the methodology you use for your math. [:D] - pixel Lady Pact's bleaux

RichieB -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 7:48:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 Dominant in terms of the PHYSICAL. So if she has me strapped to a table and is riding my strap on like a rodeo star.....then I am physically dominant? Nah, I don't think so. Nope, you are just doing what you were told to do

pixelslave -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 8:18:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz It was an honest, curious question. I'm nost sure why everyone is up in arms (and dicks) about it. Oh, my arms never go up when it come to strap on play! Whether or not my dick goes up is for Mistress to discern. [;)] I think strap-on play can mean anything one wants it to mean or nothing at all beyond a different kind of stimulation for both partners. I've been with dominants that did feel empowered by it, but also found it erotic for other reasons as well. I think it's rare for there to ever be just one emotion that's involved. [&:] As others have rightly pointed out, there's a huge bundle of nerves surrounding a male's anus that can be a tremendous pleasure center for him if he's open (no pun intended) to experiencing the sensations that come from it. Prostate stimulation during strap-on play can be another bonus if the right dildo and angle are used. For me personally, I tend to prefer it when it's done as a more loving act as opposed to one of objectification; the latter being something I don't especially care for in a D/s dynamic. Does it touch the "primal slut" in me? Of course it does! Do I enjoy it? Yes, I enjoy it a great deal for precisely all the reasons I've listed above; not because it's necessarily a submissive act. Does it make me feel submissive to my Mistress? Probably no more or less than anything else She might choose for us to engage in. Bottom line is that I already feel submissive to Her and don't need any particular act to happen between us in order to feel that way. Any activities we engage in, only tend to serve to either reinforce or refuel what I already feel; those activities can be as simple as talking about anything in general. It isn't necesssary for them to include "play". [8\|] - pixel Lady Pact's bleaux

ShaktiSama -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 9:01:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Untouched1282 I'm mostly curious to find out why the strap-on is linked to the D/s lifestyle. For the same reason that many other items are linked to the D/S lifestyle; cultural history. Penetration has been considered a "dominant", "powerful" act in the Western world for many centuries. The belief that "pitching" is dominant and "catching" is submissive dates back to ancient Greece and Rome. Please note, however, that it is not a universally human belief that receiving penetration is submissive; many cultures see the basic Tab A, Slot B arrangement as being Tab subservient. The Slot is the engulfing or devouring agency that the Tab exists to serve, to fill, to please, and ultimately to be "destroyed" by. There is also the fact that anal penetration has a mingled pain/pleasure aspect which suits it naturally to BDSM, as well as a taboo aspect (things are generally supposed to come OUT of that place rather than go in), etc.. But overall, I think a lot of BDSM activities are BDSM activities because BDSM is a bit of a catch-all for sexual fantasies, roles, role reversals and activities which are taboo or frowned upon by mainstream society. This is why not every person can ever be "into" every BDSM practice--the whole point is that BDSM is a kitchen sink, where a community says "yes" collectively to the things that society negates collectively.

sonofthedawn63 -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 9:09:40 AM)
A strapon is simply "payback" for three thousand years of male dominance. Started with monotheism and ended up here, with lost goddesses and lost slaves looking for the reality of what is and should have always been. Goddess worship

aidan -> RE: Feminism and the Strap-on (philosophical) (9/13/2008 9:37:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sonofthedawn63 A strapon is simply "payback" for three thousand years of male dominance. Started with monotheism and ended up here, with lost goddesses and lost slaves looking for the reality of what is and should have always been. Goddess worship Yeah, because amazing knock-down-the-walls prostate orgasms are a real bitch-and-a-half reminder of what callous swine my forefathers were. "Huh, you women seem really pissed. You should fuck us in the ass. That'll show us." "Really?" "Oh yeah, totally. We...really hate it? It sucks?" "Tum-te-tum-tum, oh well, I guess we should fuck you then. For teh revenge!" "Oh my god, I can't believe they're buying it." "What are you talking about? Assfucking is great! We gay guys have been - GRK!" "If you ruin this for me, I will EAT YOUR FACE!"

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