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RE: Palins book banning - 9/13/2008 9:02:55 AM   
Aynne88


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As a kid I always preferred books to people and well...sometimes still do. Slaveluci you rock! I love libraries, such a sanctuary of peace and knowledge and ideas, just waiting to transport you away. Librarians are wonderful, good post luci


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ORIGINAL: bipolarber
Now, let's not overstate the case. She never advocated BURNING books... only taking them off the shelves for public access... (The thing that bothers me about this, is that most libraries have a "restricted" section, where books of a more adult nature are kept away from the kiddies. She apparently didn't feel that was good enough. She didn't ask for the books to be moved to a restricted state, as a concerned mother. No, she wanted to make sure whatever books she [and her church group] didn't like, weren't available to ANYONE.)

If you're going to remove books from the shelves and "restrict" or hide them, you might as well go ahead and toss 'em on the bonfire.  I am a librarian.  In WV, I was a county library director for nearly 5 years and now, here in AR, I am an assistant manager within a large library system.  At no point have I worked in or been involved with any library that has a "restricted" section.  Personally, I find that idea revolting.  In my opinion, who gives someone the right to decide just what books should be "restricted" to what people?  Nonsense. 

As librarians, we are supposed to be the gatekeepers to knowledge, in essence.  A library is a place people should be able to get any and all information and reading material without judgment or censorship.  Now there have to be limits, of course, because we operate on public money.  A subscription to "Hustler" ain't gonna fly.  But taking books and putting them "behind the counter" because there's something sexual in it you think a 12 yr. old shouldn't see is BS.  Buy the books, shelve them and let the patrons choose what they'll check out, regardless of age.  If their parents can't cope with what the kiddies are reading, perhaps they should accompany them to the library and hold their hand while they choose their selections.  Don't whine because your child came in alone, chose something you don't like and then try to "ban" it from everyone's eyes.  I get furious at that line of thinking.

Whether Palin actually demanded that certain titles be banned or not, it says a whole lot to me about a person who even begins to think he/she has the right to decide what others can/should read.  Make your own choices and keep your judgment out of what the rest of us want to read........................luci


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RE: Palins book banning - 9/13/2008 9:47:25 AM   
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Every public library in America 'bans books', meatcleaver.

Not every library in the United States carries every book ever published, and so some 'purchasing guidelines' have to be worked out. Also, since the general public pays for the books and helps support the libraries through taxes, the general public gets a say in which books cannot be purchased.

In other words, there is no scandal here.

Just so you know.

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Surely the very fact a politician that supposedly believes in democracy is asking about the procedure to ban books should set alarm bells off for anyone who believes in free speach. Banning is not the same as keeping inappropriate books out of children's hands.



Yeah right,she was just doing her civic duty.

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Great and credible article in the American Library Association.Pretty accurate too.

http://www.ala.org/ala/alonline/currentnews/newsarchive/2008/september2008/palinswasillastory.cfm


Critics Revisit Library Incident that Paints Palin as Censor


Journalists and bloggers scrutinizing Sarah Palin’s record of public service have made national news out of a 1996 library incident in Wasilla, Alaska, where the Republican vice-presidential nominee was then mayor. The story that has emerged—in countless reports, from the blogosphere to the New York Times—paints Palin as a would-be censor and then–city librarian Mary Ellen Emmons as nearly losing her job for disagreeing.


An article in the September 4 Anchorage Daily News tried to clarify the 12-year-old story by looking at its own coverage of the incident, saying, “Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.” The report goes on to say that “according to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it.”
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"June Pinnell-Stephens, chair of the Intellectual Freedom Committee of the Alaska Library Association, was quoted in the September 4 Daily News as saying she had no record of any books being censored in the Wasilla library nor any conversations about the issue with Emmons, who was president of the association at the time. But she did recall that Palin “essentially forced Mary Ellen out. She all but fired her.”
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"Written by Paul Stuart, a semi-retired Frontiersman reporter, the 1996 article suggests that at the very worst, Palin was sending up what Emmons (now Mary Ellen Baker and public services manager for the Noel Wien Library in Fairbanks) then called a “trial balloon,” to which Emmons responded with “a step-by-step blueprint of procedures for anyone wanting to challenge the selection and availability of library material.” ABC News, however, noted in the September 10 report that Stuart had said specific titles were at issue and recalled one of them as Pastor, I Am Gay by Howard Bess, who was pastor of the Church of the Covenant in nearby Palmer, Alaska. Bess said Palin’s church at the time, the Assembly of God, was pushing for the removal of the book from local bookstores, “and she was one of them. This whole thing of controlling information, censorship, that’s part of the scene.”


There`s a book she(and her church) wanted to ban.Ok?Happy now?

Pastor, I Am Gay by Howard Bess

Not only from the public library,but also from the book store.

Time for a wake up call,.... and admit she`s an extremist...

Wake up time....

However,hearing folks trying  to explain this,.... and make it seem mainstream and normal,is very entertaining.

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