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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 3:22:16 AM

UtopianRanger

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You are going to get the rude emails, no matter what, so don't sweat it.
You are being honest in your profile about what you seek. The only other thing I would suggest, and I am sure you do not do this anyway, is that you don't contact anyone and then ask for money. That is a big bone of contention around here. Frankly, as it should be. Wait for them to come to you, and delete the rest.
I am a part time Pro-Domina but My profile states I am not seeking at this time. I am also lifestyle, so perhaps I did not ever get the rude email you seem to be experiencing. I would get the occasional unsolicitied and angry mail, which I just ignored.

Words from an extremely classy lady.

Bravo! ; }

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 5:43:09 AM

orfunboi

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i had this conversation with a pro domme and she said she felt that way because the customer was paying and therefore was the one outlining what he wanted done. She had to do, what he paid her to do and so she was no longer in control of the scene.

i personally have no problem with pro dommes, any more than i have a problem with prostitutes. i would not go to one myself, but if others have a need, i hope they fulfill it.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 6:03:26 AM

FTopinMichigan

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i had this conversation with a pro domme and she said she felt that way because the customer was paying and therefore was the one outlining what he wanted done. She had to do, what he paid her to do and so she was no longer in control of the scene.

A Domme should always be "in control" of the scene. If she's not...then, I feel, she's only "playing" at being a Domme. Just my opinion.

My own view, but I am grateful that the Pros are out there, as there are many men that are incapable of having social interaction with women, on any level other than meeting their own fetish needs. As I know it, most women don't enjoy the do-me types, and the Pro can meet her needs financially, as well as satisfy the client.

When I get the Do-me type introduction, I usually refer them to a Pro, since they are making an appointment, versus actually introducing themselves. They have no interest, whatsoever in the lady, but rather anyone would do. They are only dictating their desires...hardly a how-do-you do...more a Do-me..do-me-do.

Gotta love the Pros! They have my gratitude AND sympathies.

K

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 6:18:04 AM

Oumae

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ORIGINAL: pollux

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

*Sits back to see how long it will take the angry boys to jump on the newest "evil money domme" bandwagon*

Mistress Katie, I think what you're doing is absolutely despicable, and I'm appalled that greedy money-grubbing Dommes like you would exploit male submissives in this way. I am very angry about this and I'll have you know...

*looks at picture*

How much money are we talking about, exactly?

Lol...such a tart

I see nowt wrong with prodomming or escorts once up front about what expect. Like FT I also refer some subs on when think a prodomme would suit them better.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 6:32:52 AM

Jasmyn

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty
A client will pay for a service, that service is dominance. The fact that he pays in cash, as opposed to affection, or a relationship, or some other sort of service, is irrelevant.

Taggard

Well said Taggard. There is too much of a perception out there in la la b&d land that to pro-dom, she is given a script by the client and they'll be no deviating from this incorrect norm when the ignorant discuss professional bdsm. In %'s, it is a very minor number of clients who actually 'script' their sessions to the extent the pro-dom will not be in control. In reality, it is 'lack of control' they seek, so the more imagination and creativity and second guessing and being one step ahead of her client a pro-dom can be, the more respect she will earn as a 'dominant'...these men will never question her power or her ability to 'control' or 'dominate' them.

The notion of 'tribute', and yes I get pissy at the plethora of women out there calling themselves dominants and seeking tributes when they think to demand money is the reason for their existence (as a 'fem dom')... the tribute was and always will be a sign of respect, something you actually earned for having skills and experience and the ability to facilitate a B&D session that gave the client just what it is they need, a thank you, a gift for a commanding woman who takes time out of her day to give of herself. And a client will know the difference between a woman claiming dominance to make money and a woman making money because she dominates...unfortunately more of the former exist than the latter... which in turn leaves the whole industry open for abuse and many honest and genuine clients are getting duped. But when there is an honest relationship between a pro-dom and her client, I can tell all, it is a beautiful thing.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 6:36:14 AM

dommemagnet

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ORIGINAL: mistresskatie

I think it best to approach this subject on the discussion boards instead of having emails directly to me.

To get straight to the point, I am a domme escort which means I receive pleasure from receiving money from my clients in exchange for giving them a very personalised and individual experience.

Instead of getting very very very abusive and personally disgusting emails. I throw it open for discussion.

All honest opinions please x

As I see it and after reading your profile ignore the rude e-mails. You plainly state that you are a professional dominatrix and require payment for those services. As you are honest and up front about what you offer and that there is a cost associated with said services, I fail to see the problem.

In the past I started a thread about money Dommes. My question had to do with what I'm to understand is a legitimate kink for some, that of being dominated in financial matters. I don't see the coorelation between your add for professional services and those demanding that a sub/slave send money to a Domme.

Ignore the insulting messages. I applaud your honesty.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 7:53:08 AM

pmyshkinp

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I've got to agree with domme magnet, but no one as far as I've read has mentioned the general apprehension of financial slavery, especially from the onset, especially with someone you haven't met, especially online. I don't know if tops that ask for money "before" they meet you ever really intend to meet you, and I don't really buy the whole "it shows your devotion" excuse. I know there have been countless board topics on this, but it seems like not a lot of tops on here know that, or care about it (or are just fake, and want money).

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 9:22:30 AM

thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: mistresskatie

I think it best to approach this subject on the discussion boards instead of having emails directly to me.

To get straight to the point, I am a domme escort which means I receive pleasure from receiving money from my clients in exchange for giving them a very personalised and individual experience.

Instead of getting very very very abusive and personally disgusting emails. I throw it open for discussion.

All honest opinions please x

I think as long as you can do it legally or at a legal risk level you are comfortable with, that's good for you.

It isn't for me personally but I'm not you.

Since I've casually known several prodoms I can say that each was an individual -- some I really really disliked and I still disliked them when they stopped doing pro work cause it was their attitude and personality I disliked. The rest didn't really strike me enough to form any sort of opinion about.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 1:06:04 PM

LadyTantalize

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Apologies for not having read the entire thread and possibly this question was clarified...

Am I the only one who is curious as to this vein of thought....

I noticed you label yourself a "Domme Escort" but in many replies you are referred to as Professional Dominatrix? Are you an "escort" that is into female domination? Or are you a ProDomme? While it's truly a matter of semantics, there is a big difference between the two and I am curious as to what exact type of service you are promoting.

While I feel that prostitution, also known as "escorting" here in Hotlanta, should be legalized - it is not. And as a ProDomme, I know that we walk a fine line between being adult service providers and domination possibly being categorized by some as prostitution. Of course, there is a BIG difference between the two, therefore qualifying yourself as to what exactly you "receive money" for doing is my question and why do you refer to yourself as a "Domme Escort" as opposed to a ProDomme or Professional Dominatrix?

Truly,

Lady T.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 1:16:30 PM

LadyTantalize

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There is too much of a perception out there in la la b&d land that to pro-dom, she is given a script by the client and they'll be no deviating from this incorrect norm when the ignorant discuss professional bdsm. In %'s, it is a very minor number of clients who actually 'script' their sessions to the extent the pro-dom will not be in control. In reality, it is 'lack of control' they seek, so the more imagination and creativity and second guessing and being one step ahead of her client a pro-dom can be, the more respect she will earn as a 'dominant'...these men will never question her power or her ability to 'control' or 'dominate' them.

The notion of 'tribute', and yes I get pissy at the plethora of women out there calling themselves dominants and seeking tributes when they think to demand money is the reason for their existence (as a 'fem dom')... the tribute was and always will be a sign of respect, something you actually earned for having skills and experience and the ability to facilitate a B&D session that gave the client just what it is they need, a thank you, a gift for a commanding woman who takes time out of her day to give of herself. And a client will know the difference between a woman claiming dominance to make money and a woman making money because she dominates...unfortunately more of the former exist than the latter... which in turn leaves the whole industry open for abuse and many honest and genuine clients are getting duped. But when there is an honest relationship between a pro-dom and her client, I can tell all, it is a beautiful thing.

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Bravissima, applauds and a big thank you!!

Beautifully said!!

Truly,

Lady T.

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Atlanta's Sadistic Southern Belle
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-Tennessee Williams-

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 1:16:33 PM

AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

i had this conversation with a pro domme and she said she felt that way because the customer was paying and therefore was the one outlining what he wanted done. She had to do, what he paid her to do and so she was no longer in control of the scene.

i personally have no problem with pro dommes, any more than i have a problem with prostitutes. i would not go to one myself, but if others have a need, i hope they fulfill it.

A capable pro femdom will maintain control regardless of who is paying. I've done pay for play phone domination from time to time and it's really pretty simple. If a sub gives me a laundry list, I tell him to find someone else. I tell him what *I* want and what I am into, and if he is willing to submit to my desires or surrender his fetishes to me, then we can go from there.

I declined more than 1/2 of the men that called me for a phone session -- just said I wasn't interested based on their idea of what would happen in the call. Another 1/4 of the calls I would end about 10 minutes into the call (and give a full refund) because his submission did not motivate me, arouse me or excite me -- or if I felt like he was wanking off to a fantasy and I was just a means to an end.

A good pro femdom can pick and choose her clients. As a woman who loves domination and gets an intense erotic rush from it, the idea of "faking" it or "pretending" to be into dominating a man (while feeling like I was being forced, directed, or expected to do acts) makes me want to vomit. I couldn't do it for 15 minutes let alone for a living. I'd rather pluck chickens than "fake" domination or service a submissive.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 1:29:41 PM

LadyHibiscus

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Whenever a client would approach me with a script, I would politely recommend he look elsewhere. A person who has their fantasy so flawlessly charted out couldn't possibly be happy with any version of reality! I fully admit that I am in the business of fantasy fulfillment, but I decide HOW the fantasy gets fulfilled.

I have had several men---and it is ALWAYS men---tell me that my professional work is not the same as my personal work, for the reasons detailed in earlier posts. Well no, it's not. My pro clients are generally married, and while we might click on a scene level, not always people I would socialize with. Do they run the scene? Only if they safe out---and I DO use safewords professionally.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 2:01:08 PM

EmoDragon

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

*Sits back to see how long it will take the angry boys to jump on the newest "evil money domme" bandwagon*

Ohhh let me jump on them if theydo start saying that

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 2:56:10 PM

orfunboi

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i always wondered about that, i know several pro dommes, and i never saw any of them as the type that would like to lose control. But i only discussed it with one and got her personal view. It's good to read a thread like this and get more opinions to work with.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 3:20:41 PM

ExistentialSteel

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I guess you want comments on your work/lifestyle? I hope this is what you mean or I'm going off on the wrong tangent here.

I personally am not into money for D/s or sex, but I have a good online friend who is a working girl as she puts it. She is witty, honest, loyal and a friend in every sense of the word. I don't judge her, you or anyone else for their work if they have qualities that I admire.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 3:26:22 PM

LadiesBladewing

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ORIGINAL: michaelMI

although this service may have it's place in the world, i, personally, wouldn't seek out someone that wants money in exchange for something that others offer with their heart. as with other things in life...if i can find it for free, i'm not going to go out and pay for it. just my .02 worth

You pay for it one way or the other -- the only question is what the coin is that is being exchanged... and an exchange of money doesn't necessarily mean that there's no heart in the service. I was a midwife for 15 years, and put every bit of my heart into every birthing family that I worked with... and I still got paid for my work.

If you love your work, you'll put your heart into it -- and if you're providing a service, you'll get paid. Sometimes, the pay will be in the form of money. Other contracts will bring other forms of payment -- security, belonging, rights of control, etc. Relationships are all about exchanges... I'm no less uncomfortable with financial exchanges than I am with any positive, mutually beneficial exchange that takes place. I seem to remember it being a fictional character named Jubal Harshaw that had a very wise comment in regards to the whole issue of altruism:

"Of all the nonsense that twists the world, the concept of 'altruism' is the worst. People do what they want to, every time. If it pains them, to make a choice- if the 'choice' looks like a 'sacrifice' -- you can be sure that it is no nobler than the discomfort caused by greediness... the necessity of having to decide between two things you want when you can't have both. The ordinary bloke suffers every time he chooses between spending a buck on beer or tucking it away for his kids, between getting up to go to work and losing his job. But he always chooses that which hurts least or pleasures most. The scoundrel and the saint make the same choices.... " Jubal Harshaw -- "Stranger in a Strange Land"

Lady Zephyr

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 4:59:49 PM

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Absolutely nothing wrong with it. You are up front about what/who you are looking for.

In a perfect world, people who weren't interested in that, wouldn't email you. Sadly, we are not in that world. Too many people, take too many things, too personally...even when it should be of no concern to them.

The only thing that irks me, and this definitely does not apply to you, is a Domme (and I have corresponded with a couple) who brings up the money thing, only after a rapport seems to have been established.

Tasha

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 5:16:04 PM

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And on this thread, I will post the alternative view. Many people go to a bar to have a drink and socialize....they pay for it. Services are rendered, where there is no deception involved, it is perfect for all concerned, isn't it? Why is this not so in other venues?

You go to a psych or lawyer; needful services rendered, services paid.
If it was easy, everyone would do it. Since there seems to be people who exist like this, I assume a thriving trade.

God bless america, and all them other little countries where this can happen.

Send hate mail to my inbox, don't ruin a perfectly good thread.

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 6:30:56 PM

mistresskatie

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Well thank you everyone for your words of advice and opinions.

I was nearly at the point where I gave up on the site, however you have shown me that there are those out there who accept each individual for who they are and what they indulge in and do not act like insulting biggotts.

As i am fairly new to the site i posted the tread to assess the over all attitude toward my CHOSEN profession.

I am reassured that politeness and humour still reigns supreme in the world and believe that those willing to insult you and put you down are either very ignorant or just lacking very much in lifes basic skills of humility and social interaction.

Thanks again Katie

PS Love the comment from Pollux

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RE: What is your opinion on domme escorts?? - 11/29/2005 7:50:55 PM

mnottertail

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hey, I just enlarged your profile and examined your picture.....that yellow book in the background caught my eye.......That's ."Dommeing:2001 for Dummies", ain't it? LOL, don't let the drones get you down. I am pretty sure you'll make it, and I am goddamn positive I will, and the others?..remains of the day..........

LMAO,
P.S. Don't let it get you down, slick........
From across the pond.

Ron

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