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YourhandMyAss -> Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 8:31:14 PM)

Ok, for those people who were deeply upset about it an cried for days and stayed glued to the news you have your thread, so please don't come in here all outraged that some people didn't. Let this be a safe place free from flaming and attacking for those who want to state their world didn't stop.

I for one was one that didn't stay glued to the tv, while it was sad, I felt my moms behavior of sitting there and keening loudly  * yes litterally* at the tv those poor poor people, a bit Drauma'e ish, and her reaction to the fact, that I wasn't also in tears outraged at this ment I wasn't an american citizen and I wasn't patriotic and needed to get the fuck out of the country, un nessisary. Yes she litterally did tell me I needed to get the fuck out of the country, because I wasn't devistated and hanging onto every moment of news footage dureing and following 9/11.

I also remember that day it was the ONLY thing talked about in all the classes, and since I couldn't get away from it at home, I sure didn't care to be subjected to it endlessly at school. The principal threatend me with detention since I c hose to sit outside the classroom door and do schoolwork instead of watch the news casts, but in the end he just sent me home early for the day.

So. Who else didn't care, or did care but not enough to plaster themselves to the tv or the radio and bellow and cry? Who else went on with life as normally as possible?

Oh yeah september 11th is also my nieces birthday too, either on or is a few days after I can't remember. so she got kind of fucked there.




beargonewild -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 8:49:44 PM)

I do realize that what took place seven years ago was a tragedy which I hope doesn't happen anywhere again. Though being Canadian, we didn't suffer directly yet indirectly we had. Maybe it's me but I don't pay that much attention to news flashbacks to Sept 11. Yes it was tragic yet I also believe that it is time to move forward. We will always remember that day yet we need to look to the future, a future of peace. 




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 8:53:11 PM)

Nope it's not just you. I don't watch the news period.
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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

Maybe it's me but I don't pay that much attention to news flashbacks to Sept 11.




VampiresLair -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 8:55:40 PM)

I was thrilled to escape work without a million people asking me about it this year

DV




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:00:32 PM)

You mean like the where were you or do you remember what you were doing questions?

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ORIGINAL: VampiresLair

I was thrilled to escape work without a million people asking me about it this year

DV




subtee -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:01:35 PM)

You don't want to see this post. This is sad. And, I think, completely inappropriate to post on this day.

I'm sorry your Mom was harsh to you, but damn. Our country was attacked. It means nothing? You're annoyed with peoples' feelings about it?

Sad.




VampiresLair -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:04:30 PM)

It is pretty common knowledge in real life here that I was in NY, on 9/11 and that the train I used to take to work was the one that was detroyed under the towers. Last year, I spent hours telling the story of why I missed my train for the first time in the year and a half I worked there.
This year, I was very happy my boss was too busy to say anything about it, and start everyone else on the jag again.  




subtee -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:05:35 PM)

I'm sorry my post was to the OP...




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:08:27 PM)

I specifically asked, that people who were upset by it, not come in here to tell people who were not distraught by it, that they're wrong for not letting it tear their whole world apart..

It was sad but my whole world didn't collapse and I didn't stay glued to the tv, and 7 years later september 11th is a day just like any other to me, unless someone reminds me it's THAT 11th.

I'm not annoyed that people want to remember or continue to cherish that day. But. I really honestly don't have any special place in my heart for the day, nor do I stop an reminisce about what I was doing or the fall of it all or the horror of it all . Nor do I join other family memebers and people in getting all teary and  sad all over it any time the date rolls around. Today is just another unremarkable day in another  unremarkable year for me.  
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ORIGINAL: subtee

You don't want to see this post. This is sad. And, I think, completely inappropriate to post on this day.

I'm sorry your Mom was harsh to you, but damn. Our country was attacked. It means nothing? You're annoyed with peoples' feelings about it?

Sad.





Racquelle -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:23:20 PM)

About this time 7 years ago, our niece went into labor.  Jakob was born on 9/12/01.  I feel that the events of 9/11 were a monumental failure of humans to love one another.  On 9/12 we were handed a new baby and God said "Ok, try again." 

I live on the West Coast, and the events of 9/11 are a bit abstract, so to me, a lot of the "reliving" is a bit disingenuous.  I am sure I would feel a lot differently if I was actually anywhere near the major events, and I don't begrudge anyone who was more directly affected the right to mourn or remember how they see fit.  But you know how you can get some weird, barely connected person who shows up at a funeral and they usurp the event by being overly mournful and weepy, and it's a bit offensive to actual close relatives and friends?  Well, it kind of seems like some people do that with 9/11.  It's a bit of a put-off.  I try not to be one of those people.




subtee -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:28:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I specifically asked, that people who were upset by it, not come in here to tell people who were not distraught by it, that they're wrong for not letting it tear their whole world apart..

It was sad but my whole world didn't collapse and I didn't stay glued to the tv, and 7 years later september 11th is a day just like any other to me, unless someone reminds me it's THAT 11th.

I'm not annoyed that people want to remember or continue to cherish that day. But. I really honestly don't have any special place in my heart for the day, nor do I stop an reminisce about what I was doing or the fall of it all or the horror of it all . Nor do I join other family memebers and people in getting all teary and  sad all over it any time the date rolls around. Today is just another unremarkable day in another  unremarkable year for me. 


I know you asked, but...this is CM, in America. I can post where I want as long as I don't break TOS. (Haven't I seen you explain this exact same thing to other posters in other threads?

The fact is, I don't believe that for most of us it does "tear our world apart" or that we "cried for days."  Nor am I outraged that you didn't. Obviously our world didn't stop. Thank god the attacks did. Incendiary language you're using, which, it seems to me, invites flames.

You have every right to state your opinion. Just as I have every right to say that to post this on 9/11 is in very poor taste.




VampiresLair -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:29:51 PM)

I wholeheartedly agree, Racquelle. I was there. I lost people.
And all of a sudden, everyone LOVES NY. All of a sudden, everyone wants to help, everyone wants to be part of it, everyone feels so connected and mourns for us.
It was almost like a fad, it was the in thing to do, and for those of us who went through it... it made me bitter. I didnt feel better for everyone telling me how they felt about it, and how horrible it must have been for me. I didnt feel like much of it was genuine, even then. Now, 7 years later, it certainly isnt.
I hate feeling that way, though. Thats part of why I was so glad I escaped without telling the story for the hundreth time. It wasa tradegy, yes, and it was awful. It was horrifying to be in the rubble pulling out what might have been friends and relatives of yours. But, it was 7 years ago. I, for one, refuse to give anyone enough power over me to cripple me for a day over something they did one time. It is over and I for one have moved on. I mourn the friends I lost, but I do not see a reason to remind everyone ad nauseum how horrible it was that day. There are many other things that have happened in our history that were just as bad, but no where near as publicized.

Now, before I find myself in that ugly place I get whenever people start asking for the stupid story, I am going to head to bed,.

DV




subtee -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:37:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VampiresLair

All of a sudden, everyone wants to help, everyone wants to be part of it, everyone feels so connected and mourns for us.
This is a bad thing?

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I didnt feel like much of it was genuine, even then. Now, 7 years later, it certainly isnt.
To you it isn't genuine. You don't believe you can make that judgment for others, do you?
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I hate feeling that way, though. Thats part of why I was so glad I escaped without telling the story for the hundreth time.
I empathize with you, which you probably won't appreciate. Try this: "I'm sorry, I don't feel like talking about it."
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But, it was 7 years ago. I, for one, refuse to give anyone enough power over me to cripple me for a day over something they did one time.
Who is taking your power? Who is crippled?

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There are many other things that have happened in our history that were just as bad, but no where near as publicized.
What things?

We all choose how things affect us. You're certainly entitled to choose these sentiments.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:44:45 PM)

Yup. I would too I suppose. But then again as of now I don't get tearful or sad remembering years later  dates where something that affected me personally happend  That might change if it was something like a parent or a child, but currently, nope. Like when friends or loved ones die and the anniversary of their death rolls around I don't lite candles in their memory or have memorials, or go to the graveyard where they're burried, or do anything special because they have died on this date years ago. Nor ask friends to pray  on that day,  or ask any one and to pause in their day to spend a moment remembering the dead one , like so many other people do....  I have a pen pal who's 33 ,that always asks every one to pray for her and put out a candle and remember her brother and honor his memory who died when he was 15, even though we never knew him and didn't know her back then, and I think it's kind of uncomfortable. I mean I care what happens to her cause we have a sort of friendship, but I don't get deeply affected by her brothers death when he was 15, cause I didn't know him, didn't know her, and was not personally involved or affected by the event and I am not really comfortable with doing memorial type things, or devoting emotional energy to mourning  someone I didn't know.

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ORIGINAL: Racquelle

About this time 7 years ago, our niece went into labor.  Jakob was born on 9/12/01.  I feel that the events of 9/11 were a monumental failure of humans to love one another.  On 9/12 we were handed a new baby and God said "Ok, try again." 

I live on the West Coast, and the events of 9/11 are a bit abstract, so to me, a lot of the "reliving" is a bit disingenuous.  I am sure I would feel a lot differently if I was actually anywhere near the major events,



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But you know how you can get some weird, barely connected person who shows up at a funeral and they usurp the event by being overly mournful and weepy, and it's a bit offensive to actual close relatives and friends?
 




cuddlemesoft1 -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:49:46 PM)

I am sorry if my message offends the OP but if you are thinking that you will get a outpouring of those who "didn't care" you may be surprised. Not dwelling about it or letting yourself be overwhlemed by it is one thing, but not caring seems a little callous. I can understand a little distance from the situation. I wish I could have had some more distance myself but I was one of those people who sat awe struck for days in front of the tv with a pile of tissues at my feet. My husband at the time tried to distance himself a little from the overwhelming sadness of it all and stayed clear of the television as much as possible but he and I did sit crying and consoling each other one evening. But to blantantly deny the profound impact it had on our country seems overly disattached from the situation. Even the most unpatriotic person can see how the loss of so many lives in such a dramatic way would be profoundly sad. Even my friend who thinks that the government is corrupt and they brought this on themselves was affected by the profound loss of life. She avoided the tv and I respect her and your right to do so but to be totally uneffected is beyond me. Maybe it is a matter that you "don't watch the news period" that allows you to live in a world that is separated from the rest of the world. Just so you understand, people in New York are like people you know. They have family and they hurt and suffer. Maybe you also had the luxury of thinking that being on the other side of the country somehow kept you immune to such an attack. Maybe you had that luxury in the same way many of us hear of bombings on the other side of the world and move through our day without a thought about it. And yes listening to every sad story that the era of 24 hr news dumps on us may not be a healthy way to live but totally disassociating from the suffering in the world seems like a childish way to live. Educate yourself about the world you live in and how as a member of the human race you should be outraged sometimes about the atrocities that occur here. Otherwise I hope your ignorance doesn't leave you to look around one day and realize that the problems of the world do affect you and that you are too ignorant to do anything about it.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 9:57:56 PM)

Ok, so perhaps the wording was a bit more dramatic than most people got, but tons of people did say they did spend every minute glued to radio or tv to follow news coverage, and that they were very saddend and it was all they thought of for weeks( in some cases).

And my post is a chance for those people who barely noticed if you will, or didn't care, if you will  or cared, but didn't glue themselves to every source of information possible, to get to say so. With out hijacking other people's threads who did.



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ORIGINAL: subtee


The fact is, I don't believe that for most of us it does "tear our world apart" or that we "cried for days."  Nor am I outraged that you didn't. Obviously our world didn't stop. Thank god the attacks did. Incendiary language you're using, which, it seems to me, invites flames.

You have every right to state your opinion. Just as I have every right to say that to post this on 9/11 is in very poor taste.





MarksFantasyGirl -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 10:00:16 PM)

Ok, here's my thoughts:

I usually try to stay away from any kind of political or religious posts... it does nothing but piss people off, but here goes anyways...

I Do feel bad for the people that lost loved ones on September 11, 2001, I really do... And I do think that people should know all about these things that happened.. those who don't learn about history, are forced to repeat it... just like the holocaust... (Sorry, I can't spell), however, the only reason that I believe that everyone is still all about this is because there hasn't been anything else worse come along yet.... I think that once something else that "Time Life" can make money off of, it will be all about that instead... How long did people cry about princess Diana?  I'm sorry, it's all a tragidy.. don't get me wrong, I saw bits and peices of "The Day the Towers Fell" or something like that on the History Channel, and I did get tears in my eyes... But people play things up too much if you ask me... I remember what happened in 2001, I remember where I was on that day, and trust me, I will tell my kids all about it when they get old enough to know, but I really don't think that every channel has to play news clips about it all day... And no, I don't think that it should be a national holiday... There are plenty of days that should be a national holiday if this one is...

I don't know.. sorry everyone... I'm going to take my mixed drink, and go back to my pillow where I belong.. than you for listening... If It made sence...

I had a few too many today.. we are Celebrating! my mom and Stepdad are going to make it official on Saturday... they are getting married... I'm EXCITED!!!




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 10:04:28 PM)

Oh, make no mistake, I don't deny it didn't have a profound affect on our country, it just didn't then, and doesn't now have a profound  emotional effect on me that changed my world or affected it very much. I did say it was sad, and will admit I did cry  over it sometimes particularly when I heard children had to be told mommy is gone for ever, or Daddy maybe dying, , But largely and wholley I wasn't interested in following it nor do I reminse about it or hold the day to be anything  special to me personally..  And I am ok with that.


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ORIGINAL: cuddlemesoft1

But to blantantly deny the profound impact it had on our country seems overly disattached from the situation. .




subtee -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 10:13:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Racquelle

About this time 7 years ago, our niece went into labor.  Jakob was born on 9/12/01.  I feel that the events of 9/11 were a monumental failure of humans to love one another.  On 9/12 we were handed a new baby and God said "Ok, try again." 

Shalom

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I live on the West Coast, and the events of 9/11 are a bit abstract, so to me, a lot of the "reliving" is a bit disingenuous.


So... because you weren't living in the vacinity others' expressions and feelings are disingenuous? Wow.




Usako -> RE: Who else didn't glue themselves to the tv over 9/11 ? (9/11/2008 10:20:53 PM)

I live in NYC and have all my life. I was in the city during all of this, a lot closer than some of the people who boo hooed about it (aka people in bumfuck Idaho or New Mexico, etc.) It was a sad day and luckily no one I knew died so for me, honestly the world didn't end. All it meant was that I lived through something that will be in history books for days to come. I don't think back to that day anymore and I don't treat it like any special day. The most I'll say is "Damn, that sucked" and then hope there isn't traffic.

There is still a gapping hole in that spot, those were really nice buildings and now it's just a hole. Americans "banded" together and blah blah over 9/11 but really not much has changed. People go to work, people get shot, people die of cancer; as someone said people still make a big deal about 9/11 because something else worse hasn't come along yet.

When is the last time the news stopped to remember Pearl Harbor or the mistreatment of the Japanese during WWII or any other of the many human tragedies?

No one really cared about NY all too much before this and they won't after, they just come to see our giant hole now!




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