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RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? - 12/2/2005 4:04:10 AM   
UtopianRanger


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I really respect Ranger's comments in general - and don't care a bit whether he's arrogant or not - but there is lots of remarkably slack reasoning (read NONSENSE) in the thread. I pick on Ranger because I think he can handle a friendly smack upside the head:


Thank you. Please know that in no way was I trying to belittle you. As you had asked for opinions, I was merely pointing out that I didn't think the route you had chosen would lead you to a achieve your desired goal. And yes, I can take a friendly smack, but I must admit, it's not often I get hit. ; }

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Oh man - so every CEO who tries to make his company more productive is admitting that his company isn't very productive in the first place? I hope your independent business since 24 isn't about building bridges, there, Ranger, or Air Traffic Controllers R Us.


Again, in the proposal you made in your original post, no, I absolutely do not believe that one human-being can ''make'' another become more productive in the context of operating a business/entrepreneurship.

The reference you site above where a CEO would typically attempt to increase the efficiency/productivity within his company, is in no way parallel to the proposal given in your original post. So that analogy{as applied to you} is useless.

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Business is good, folks. I feel like James Fulton next to the river before any of youse has seen my poor little Folly! For four years I've been living in this boat, and it floats. About 30% growth rate. Just want to kick it up a notch, make it more fun.


I'm sincerely happy for you. I've have a plane ticket that puts me in Canada in 26 days, I think you should make similar arrangements to get on a flight to Auckland, as there is very beautiful lady out that way that seems to have the recipe to make you even more productive and successful than you currently are.


Best Wishes and enjoy the sub-tropical climate!




- The Ranger



< Message edited by UtopianRanger -- 12/2/2005 4:11:44 AM >


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RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? - 12/4/2005 2:14:29 PM   
theRose4U


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The thing that has struck me all along about your concept is the common misunderstanding sub men have about how a femdom's energy works, how she gets motivated, how she expresses herself and how she uses her passion. I would argue that it would be easier for a *woman* (not a femdom) to play the role you outline than it would be for a full fledged, self aware femdom.

Sub men idealize femdoms as having an undercurrent, easily tappable, constantly available resource of dominant energy, imagination, drive and passion. We are all different; but one thing I believe is consistent is that we do not have nearly the constant source of femdom motivation they desire or fantasize about -- and, more importantly, we can't turn it on and shut it off when it is convenient. Most important is that we can't turn it on "in order to get things done" with our partner, or when shackled with the idea that a secondary thing hangs in the balance if we don't "suck it up" and put on the femdom mode.

Some of us operate on a pretty steady flow of femdom energy and passion, but still, it can't be "on call" or tagged as a "resource" that creates a sense of obligation. And yes, it's easy for you to down play it now and say you don't mean to be micromanaged or that this is overanalyzed, but we've all BEEN in situations with a sub that is passive aggressive, pouting, being lethargic to try to get us to "motivate" him, pouting because we aren't "in the mood" at that given moment.

We prefer relationships where our dominant energy is appreciated for what it is -- natural.

The reason I think a vanilla (money motivated) woman would be better at this is she can "fake it" at will. Any femdom can show a vanilla woman "these are the tasks you need to assign to keep his dick hard and keep him motivated. And if he acts up, do this. Oh, and send him this kind of nasty note 2 times a day to really keep him on his toes. Then, evaluate him at the end of the week. and here's a punishment schedule to use. Have him send pictures of his cock in chastity at random times, so set your clock to go off and remind you..." etc. It's all just a bunch of tasks. What is different is that the vanilla woman won't get as annoyed, frustrated or irritated when the sub starts whining and pouting and needing more direction, because she won't feel like he's topping from the bottom -- she'll just think he's being a pain in the ass.

Akasha


Well said. This OP as the posts go on remind me of a sub I had many moons ago. He was an experienced sub when I met him, traveled with his own very expensive custom toys (shoulda been a hint) and was CFO of a large telecom at the time.

What I'm reading between the lines of the OP's sarcasm is that he want's the release from responsibility even just for a little while. I have seen this more and more times since my sub departed. Rich, powerful and commanding in nilla life but get them in private and they yearn to crumble like a nilla wafer trembling at your feet for release of their burdons. Though add to the mix what appears to be a newbie with a play book and Houston we have a problem.

Aakashia I think that you explain what makes us tick rather well, the question is whether Hers can get out of "someone please do me cause I'm the boss" mode and hear it.

Good points have been made that just like a formidable CEO he has challenged point after point...too bad that in this instance he wins the battle and loses a war...a common theme I'd imagine. An effort to ask about femdoms and possibly even attract one by being an articulate SUBMISSIVE is blown to hell by the very thing he's trying to escape...dominance, arrogance & having to be on the ball at all times for the good of the company & everyone else. It's a damn shame.

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RE: Lady Bosses - 12/6/2005 5:27:39 AM   
Oumae


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Are you a workaholic and trying to find a way to have your fun without having to stop working?

I am curious as while its fine to have your wants if it is totally one way it may explain why it hasn't worked out for you. Some are good at compartmentalising ( did I just make up a word? ) others prefer relationships that encompass more than one "thing".

Oumae

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