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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 8:26:56 AM   
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For some girls it’s also situation dependent, but I have managed to train a few to cum purely on command, regardless of where they are or how they’re feeling.  Very useful for nipping any arguments in the bud, that.

***that....is cheating!!!! laughs***




Let me think ... yes, you know something, I do believe you may be right
 
What it is very good for is showing a girl her place, instantly (or at least very quickly), in the same way as ordering a girl to kneel, head down, if she’s starting to consider being disrespectful does.  I also tend to use a similar concept even with girls who can’t cum on command, in terms of bending them over and touching them to make them cum quickly (which is a much easier response to train, in my experience at least).

The only problem is you can’t do the latter in the supermarket.

Or, at least, not more than once per supermarket.

Overall though I tend not to try training it as much as I once did, primarily because some girls, even ones who can cum fairly quickly and easily by my touch, simply cannot do it, and in my experience there are few things that can make a girl feel like she’s “failed” as fast as not cumming on command.  Since upsetting her is not my intention, at least not in that way, I find it can be counter-productive, longer term, so these days I tend to treat it as a bit of fun only, from time to time.  For public “bringing to heel”, I find having her stand in certain pre-determined (but not obviously so to anyone watching) poses, or other methods, are better when in said supermarkets

 

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 8:31:03 AM   
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It just takes some time and...patience.
 
Tease and denial...the girl has to stay focused...and listen..listen...listen.

As for training a male...a whole lot harder...obviously...but <g> it can be done...
 
Good luck and....enjoy

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 8:58:47 AM   
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I have been in the situation with a previous partner (not a BDSM relationship - just a sometimes slightly kinky one) where i was trained to cum on demand.  It was definitely challenging when he rang me at work or commanded me when we were in a vanilla situation - like the supermarket where orgasm is not really something one expects (or indeed can allow others to really notice you're having)

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:04:11 AM   
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I have been in the situation with a previous partner (not a BDSM relationship - just a sometimes slightly kinky one) where i was trained to cum on demand.  It was definitely challenging when he rang me at work or commanded me when we were in a vanilla situation - like the supermarket where orgasm is not really something one expects (or indeed can allow others to really notice you're having)


"Challenging" – there’s a lovely term   And yes, I can well imagine, having seen girls go through it in person.  The slightly evil, impish side of me loves that sort of thing.

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:36:37 AM   
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I've been working from home all day so my language might be a little more formal than normal LOL - but honestly, have you ever been any relationship that wasn't challenging in some way?  (and could you stand one that wasn't)

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:43:12 AM   
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I've been working from home all day so my language might be a little more formal than normal LOL - but honestly, have you ever been any relationship that wasn't challenging in some way?  (and could you stand one that wasn't)


I didn't say anything about that, I just liked the term.

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:46:01 AM   
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For some girls it’s also situation dependent, but I have managed to train a few to cum purely on command, regardless of where they are or how they’re feeling.  Very useful for nipping any arguments in the bud, that.

***that....is cheating!!!! laughs***




Let me think ... yes, you know something, I do believe you may be right
 
What it is very good for is showing a girl her place, instantly (or at least very quickly), in the same way as ordering a girl to kneel, head down, if she’s starting to consider being disrespectful does.
***just curious - if she is being disrespectful - how well trained is she, then...i mean..knowing what You might do to her - me thinkest disrespect might be a  trick to make You make her cum or 2. she secretly loves public displays but not sure how to word it..grins***   I also tend to use a similar concept even with girls who can’t cum on command, in terms of bending them over and touching them to make them cum quickly (which is a much easier response to train, in my experience at least).
***good God..and You would do this in the store? Not worried about getting arrested are Ya? *L* On the other hand - standing close - sneaking a hand underneath a skirt is less obvious than bending her over at isle 9***
The only problem is you can’t do the latter in the supermarket.
***depends on the size of the supermarket and time of day/night..hehe***
Or, at least, not more than once per supermarket.
***now.that sounds like a good idea - if You have many shops close by...or like to travel a lot to get Your groceries...*L* ***
Overall though I tend not to try training it as much as I once did, primarily because some girls, even ones who can cum fairly quickly and easily by my touch, simply cannot do it, and in my experience there are few things that can make a girl feel like she’s “failed” as fast as not cumming on command.  Since upsetting her is not my intention, at least not in that way, I find it can be counter-productive, longer term, so these days I tend to treat it as a bit of fun only, from time to time.  For public “bringing to heel”, I find having her stand in certain pre-determined (but not obviously so to anyone watching) poses, or other methods, are better when in said supermarkets
***i agree about the whole forced/controlled orgasm thing..although fun at times - when a relationship ends - can be somewhat interesting to try to get the control back of her own body for the submissive..and she might find herself in the interesting position of always needing "permission" or a "command" to cum...grumbles....***

i do love Your sense of humor, though..*s*..thanks for making me laugh out rt today..

cleanup at isle 9, please....

 


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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:53:36 AM   
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Mind, body and soul, of the three the mind is most important one, then you can teach her any thing. programing to cum on command is easy once you own her mind...bounty

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:54:42 AM   
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i do love Your sense of humor, though..*s*..thanks for making me laugh out rt today..



My pleasure.
 
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cleanup at isle 9, please....



“Aisle 17 is for bruised items only”.



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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 10:06:53 AM   
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Erotic teasing and denial is one of the most exciting things in the world IMO.  Being brought right to the edge and having every fiber of your being beg to be able to let go yet being told to hold on as excruciating as that may be and then finally being allowed to release.  Oh yeah.  As far as cumming on command without any buildup, I have a feeling that if the energy was right and someone knew my body well enough they could make it happen in short order, but not without any physical stimulation.  Is that even possible for men?

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 10:59:41 AM   
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What it is very good for is showing a girl her place, instantly (or at least very quickly), in the same way as ordering a girl to kneel, head down, if she’s starting to consider being disrespectful does.



***just curious - if she is being disrespectful - how well trained is she, then...
 


Sorry, this bit had scrolled off my screen so I missed it first time around – only just noticed it.  Short answer; we’re all, regardless of whether we're M or s, or D or s, human, and I’d worry about a relationship where no disagreements or friction ever took place. 

“Disrespectful” can cover a lot of ground with me, from just being slightly cheeky, as some girls love to test the bonds from time to time, to outright disobedience – the former is perfectly natural, indeed even attractive to me in certain ways, as I enjoy “correcting” girls, therefore it bothers me not at all, whereas the latter, if repeated, would certainly mean I’d erred in my choice of girl.



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i mean..knowing what You might do to her - me thinkest disrespect might be a  trick to make You make her cum or 2. she secretly loves public displays but not sure how to word it..grins***  



If I have got to the stage where my mere word makes her cum then I would hope I understood enough about her mind to know whether she was doing it to get what she wanted.

But you’re right in one respect – one of my former slaves (actually more an extreme submissive than what I’d call a slave) was definitely of the “wants to do stuff in public but doesn’t want to admit to it” school.  If I was satisfied that she had earned some enjoyment, and that said enjoyment would entertain me, then I occasionally allowed her such a release.  In another case, with another girl, where it was more of a “dare” (because I know that’s what she wanted me to do) I would arrange for her to suffer greatly if she tried it on, because she was effectively trying to bend me to her will, and that simply will not do.

That’s why supermarkets with cafeterias are so good; you know they’ll have toilets, so it’s the work of a moment to snap off a little root ginger, and have her go to the toilet, wash her hands, nibble off the skin, and insert said ginger wherever ordered, then return to help with the shopping.  On one occasion, with a normally good girl who was being very naughty, I had her enter the toilets, snap a very hot chilli in half lengthways, and rub it on her clit.  She was a remarkably good girl after that  


 

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 11:15:32 AM   
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What it is very good for is showing a girl her place, instantly (or at least very quickly), in the same way as ordering a girl to kneel, head down, if she’s starting to consider being disrespectful does.



***just curious - if she is being disrespectful - how well trained is she, then...
 


Sorry, this bit had scrolled off my screen so I missed it first time around – only just noticed it.  Short answer; we’re all, regardless of whether we're M or s, or D or s, human, and I’d worry about a relationship where no disagreements or friction ever took place. 

“Disrespectful” can cover a lot of ground with me, from just being slightly cheeky, as some girls love to test the bonds from time to time, to outright disobedience – the former is perfectly natural, indeed even attractive to me in certain ways, as I enjoy “correcting” girls, therefore it bothers me not at all, whereas the latter, if repeated, would certainly mean I’d erred in my choice of girl.


***slow nod - i know i can be rather cheeky - often because i make a snappy remark - lips engage before brain, so to speak...*L*...and then realizing - darn - i said that out loud...but of course....without question accepting the consequences...chuckles.***
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ORIGINAL: badlilthang

i mean..knowing what You might do to her - me thinkest disrespect might be a  trick to make You make her cum or 2. she secretly loves public displays but not sure how to word it..grins***  



If I have got to the stage where my mere word makes her cum then I would hope I understood enough about her mind to know whether she was doing it to get what she wanted.

But you’re right in one respect – one of my former slaves (actually more an extreme submissive than what I’d call a slave) was definitely of the “wants to do stuff in public but doesn’t want to admit to it” school.  If I was satisfied that she had earned some enjoyment, and that said enjoyment would entertain me, then I occasionally allowed her such a release.  In another case, with another girl, where it was more of a “dare” (because I know that’s what she wanted me to do) I would arrange for her to suffer greatly if she tried it on, because she was effectively trying to bend me to her will, and that simply will not do.
***exactly - we're different - some can not for the life of them admit to the public part - no matter how much they might want to - and kinda need/crave/love the "force" part in it...smiles - and topping from the bottom probably is rather tiresome after a while...ss***
That’s why supermarkets with cafeterias are so good; you know they’ll have toilets, so it’s the work of a moment to snap off a little root ginger, and have her go to the toilet, wash her hands, nibble off the skin, and insert said ginger wherever ordered, then return to help with the shopping.  On one occasion, with a normally good girl who was being very naughty, I had her enter the toilets, snap a very hot chilli in half lengthways, and rub it on her clit.  She was a remarkably good girl after that  
*crosses legs and just....um.....tries to smile...ow*
 


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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 11:17:27 AM   
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Mind, body and soul, of the three the mind is most important one, then you can teach her any thing. programing to cum on command is easy once you own her mind...bounty

**that is true, Sir - but to get there takes time and effort and a lot of trust - not many these days seem to have the time to train..if it does not work well enough after say 3 months...a lot move on to the next vict...er....target...The sincere Oones will do what it takes - and it is absolutely amazing when it all clicks into place and feels just right...s...**


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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 4:03:45 PM   
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***slow nod - i know i can be rather cheeky - often because i make a snappy remark - lips engage before brain, so to speak...*L*...and then realizing - darn - i said that out loud...but of course....without question accepting the consequences...chuckles.***



For the record, those are my sort of girls

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 6:11:27 PM   
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Am like some of the others that have posted on here....if you stop me from having my first orgasm, its virtually impossble for me to have one after that at all. Even for me playing with my clit afterwards, I still can't cum. So, as long as its not the first one your denying, I can stop the next one.....but still can't cum on demand after that, but pretty damn close to it

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 8:03:43 PM   
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A friend was trained to cum at the word “french fry”.   McDonalds could get very entertaining and there would be a literal puddle by the time Master was through verbally playing with her.  

As far as how to do it, the other replies covered it already.

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 9:00:20 PM   
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yes you can do it there or tackiness and heck hole books on how to do it!(look for the art of the female orgasom older book but good one) here is a ez way to do it but note it don’t work for every one! and it helps to have some one you trust
1). it help to know how to not cum right away as a starting point that can take some time but is ezer to learn
2). play with your self tell your vary near Cuming stop, count to 10 and cum DO NOT TUCH YOURSLAFE!
3). after some time passes 30 mints to an hur. do it once more but now count to 30
4). can you guess now? move up to a full mint holding on the cum trying to think of how it fells wall your playing with your self here it helps to have some one with you to say hold on to that felling you can do it!
5). after some time passes just try to remember the felling of how it is to play with your self and how it is to have to hold off so long it should be rather ez to cum when ever you wont to
with some time a good Dom Master can even key that felling to a word, or words like cum now you slut
and there you have it enjoy

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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/15/2008 10:35:23 PM   
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***slow nod - i know i can be rather cheeky - often because i make a snappy remark - lips engage before brain, so to speak...*L*...and then realizing - darn - i said that out loud...but of course....without question accepting the consequences...chuckles.***



For the record, those are my sort of girls


**thank God that there are Doms out there for our kind, too...*shameless little flirty gaze*.*L*


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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/16/2008 3:40:15 AM   
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Orgasm control is a huge turn-on for me... i love that i can't come without His permission. He has started training me to come on the count of ten. This means that even from a 'cold start' where i am not expecting an orgasm, i have the time to build it up. It does help that merely hearing His voice makes me feel sexy and submissive. If i am already warmed up, the hard part is not coming until He does reach ten -- and then sometimes He teases by not saying it immediately or repeating 9 or something!!

It took time to build up to that stage though, nearly a year for me to associate His command to come with the act of orgasming. i'm not worried about being conditioned to come only to His voice, as i am allowed the occasional solitary orgasm as a treat. But since we live a good distance apart, this means He can command an orgasm over the phone if He desires to.



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RE: Cuming on Command - 9/16/2008 4:18:22 AM   
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Thank you all so much for your input, very interesting subject indeed.
Once trained will the command always be necessary for release or will the command only be necessary when the Dominant says it is?

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