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Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 1:49:53 PM   
PriapicBratt


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I am very new at the lifestyle but have spent considerable time talking to and questioning people that are familiar with it. I recently accepted a collar.(I thought collars were for slaves? I am a Sub) After our first "session" I felt so empty and confused. To me it seemed more like being with a sadist. The "session" went fine but I need the care, passion, gentleness afterwards. Am I wrong in thinking the relationship should have both? I don't know what to do now.
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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 2:03:00 PM   
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I am feeling sorry fr you.
Think twice before you go on with this Master!!!!
After a good and haevy session you have to BE treated well.
Your Master has to take care for you.

Master Heinz

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 2:08:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

I am very new at the lifestyle but have spent considerable time talking to and questioning people that are familiar with it. I recently accepted a collar.(I thought collars were for slaves? I am a Sub) After our first "session" I felt so empty and confused. To me it seemed more like being with a sadist. The "session" went fine but I need the care, passion, gentleness afterwards. Am I wrong in thinking the relationship should have both? I don't know what to do now.

i'm a little confused. usually collars are for slaves, but in this realm, it is what two people make of it. it does, however, usually carry some sort of connotations of a deep relationship and committment. if i'm reading right, you accepted the collar before the session? from what my interpretations and perceptions are (each are unique), after care is normally a part of a relationship. have you asked this person how much of a sadist he is, either before the session or afterwards? i don't know (as i'm not a sadist) if that changes in any way the "usual" (recognizing there is no such thing as usual) precepts such as after care. as you have said that you need this, discussion definitely seems in order with this person. talk, talk and more talk. i wish you well.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 2:09:55 PM   
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No you are not asking for to much.
However you may ?? be with the wrong type of partner. There are indeed very serious sadits out here, and a few on the way sick side, But there is I am sure a correct "match" for whomever you are.
A Collar is NOT taken lightly, a submissive can and often does wear one for "play" however a collar also can be considered by some ( like my slave) as a large wedding ring on steroids that cannot be removed just because she feels like it. It is larger then a wedding ring but also means a LOT LOT more then that.

I do not know how long you have been "in the scene" but try and remember there are a LOT of "wannabes" and a lot of perverts as well as a few very very good people.
I have seen too many "submissives" hurt very very VERY deeply by being misused or "trained" and that is wrong and very sad.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:05:42 PM   
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dear collared slave suby
DO YOU BELIEVE IN LOVE AFTER LOVE....
wonder what slave genius really did that song!? and got to be a ripped ,off slavesinger
there's no aftercare....
get a parrot or a pet..........
youre lucky if you get talked to, after a vanilla f' session..........
are you talkin'
foreplay?
after every time you score with your better half you place a bandaid on yourself
you'll see: gee

i must be very taken care of,
or WOUNDED?!
which is it.....?!
how can i even complain ;i got dinner, with, annie sprinkle, and, chers 'daughter in nyny
ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:16:49 PM   
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You're not asking for much. You have a right to desire what you desire.

But part of finding your happiness is finding the right partner to share it with.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:18:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

I need the care, passion, gentleness afterwards. Am I wrong in thinking the relationship should have both? I don't know what to do now.


If that is what you need then you aren't wrong at all. I couldn't be with a dominate unless I trusted him to take care of me before, during and after a scene. You need to communicate much more before accepting a collar or playing with someone that isn't compatible for you.

You need to think really hard about exactly what you want and be patient until you get it. The right one for you is out there, so don't settle until you find your bliss.


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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:30:44 PM   
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Master has been known to pick flowers and give them to me, dance with me in the street and generally be very romantic and loving, he can also be demanding and make me hurt so good.

Everyone has different ideals for a relationship, including Master/slave relationships. You need to find one that is right for you.

Saying that: You did say you were new.....so these feelings of confusion could come with that..a blankness or emptiness can come with not knowing the new feelings you are processing...i wasnt there for your first session...there are probably many aspects to it that we just cant know and so limits our ability to give advice.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:37:02 PM   
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Subs can be collared; as well as slaves. It depends on the relationship dynamic.

There are true sadists, be cautious. Ask probing questions and find out how someone operates their particular kink. I am not into extreme pain....and one of my biggest fears would be finding myself alone in a room with a sadist.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:48:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

I am very new at the lifestyle but have spent considerable time talking to and questioning people that are familiar with it. I recently accepted a collar.(I thought collars were for slaves? I am a Sub) After our first "session" I felt so empty and confused. To me it seemed more like being with a sadist. The "session" went fine but I need the care, passion, gentleness afterwards. Am I wrong in thinking the relationship should have both? I don't know what to do now.

Few points here. Collars can be for any submissive... sub, slave, even switches (hmmm should that be a reversable collar?), there's no rule carved in stone anywhere about it. A collar is simply meant to symbolize the relationship, much like a wedding band, what it means to you personally is up to you to define.

You may very well be with a sadist, if you don't know then my first question to you is how well do you actually know this dominant? These are things that should have been discussed and even tried out before a commitment was made. Now there's nothing wrong with him being a sadist, some dominants are, some aren't. If you aren't a masochist he may need to reign his sadism in a bit, and if he isn't happy with that then again, how well did you two actually get to know each other before a collar became involved?

What you were missing after the session you describe is called "after care". After care serves several important functions. First its a time to make sure you are alright physically and emotionally, intense sessions can take their toll and sometimes be traumatic (that isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it still very emotional and should be handled with care). After care is also a period for bonding with each other emotionally, providing you with emotional support, letting you know you've been pleasing, that you did well, etc. There's nothing wrong with the submissive going to sleep while being held by the dominant during after care, it happens. Its good to keep some water or a good sports drink handy, a warm blanket, maybe a cot nearby for aftercare. A light snack can be nice too. This isn't about pampering you or spoilling you, its just part of taking care of you and giving you a little reward for enduring the session.

So why didn't your dom do after care? I can't say, I have no idea who he is. Could be inexperience, that's easy enough to remedy if he's open minded enough to learn. Could be he's an asshole who doesn't care. Could be he was too damn exhausted himself. I dunno, wasn't there and not going to get my exercise jumping to conclusions. However, it would be a good idea for you to ask him yourself. You've got some information, talk to him about it. If he listens and things improve, great, if not you might need to consider finding a new relationship.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 3:51:45 PM   
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Being a good dom isn´t just about having the knowhow in using all the tools, it´s also about the right care for the sub/slave.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 6:55:04 PM   
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Thank you to everyones comments. Although I am fairly new I had been with a Dom before. Unfortunatly distance became an obstacle and thats why I was looking again. This Dom did have a sadistical side but there was always "after care". It never occurred to me to ask the "new" one about it. He has been in the lifestyle for 11 years and has had 2 slaves. We had been talking 4 and 5 times a day and had met twice before so I felt totally safe accepting his "collar". But I was totally unprepared for all that went on last night. I know I need to talk to him about this but am finding myself scared to bring it up. And after reading all the comments I really belive I am with the wrong person.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 7:03:24 PM   
PriapicBratt


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Padriag


quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

I am very new at the lifestyle but have spent considerable time talking to and questioning people that are familiar with it. I recently accepted a collar.(I thought collars were for slaves? I am a Sub) After our first "session" I felt so empty and confused. To me it seemed more like being with a sadist. The "session" went fine but I need the care, passion, gentleness afterwards. Am I wrong in thinking the relationship should have both? I don't know what to do now.

Few points here. Collars can be for any submissive... sub, slave, even switches (hmmm should that be a reversable collar?), there's no rule carved in stone anywhere about it. A collar is simply meant to symbolize the relationship, much like a wedding band, what it means to you personally is up to you to define.

You may very well be with a sadist, if you don't know then my first question to you is how well do you actually know this dominant? These are things that should have been discussed and even tried out before a commitment was made. Now there's nothing wrong with him being a sadist, some dominants are, some aren't. If you aren't a masochist he may need to reign his sadism in a bit, and if he isn't happy with that then again, how well did you two actually get to know each other before a collar became involved?

What you were missing after the session you describe is called "after care". After care serves several important functions. First its a time to make sure you are alright physically and emotionally, intense sessions can take their toll and sometimes be traumatic (that isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it still very emotional and should be handled with care). After care is also a period for bonding with each other emotionally, providing you with emotional support, letting you know you've been pleasing, that you did well, etc. There's nothing wrong with the submissive going to sleep while being held by the dominant during after care, it happens. Its good to keep some water or a good sports drink handy, a warm blanket, maybe a cot nearby for aftercare. A light snack can be nice too. This isn't about pampering you or spoilling you, its just part of taking care of you and giving you a little reward for enduring the session.

So why didn't your dom do after care? I can't say, I have no idea who he is. Could be inexperience, that's easy enough to remedy if he's open minded enough to learn. Could be he's an asshole who doesn't care. Could be he was too damn exhausted himself. I dunno, wasn't there and not going to get my exercise jumping to conclusions. However, it would be a good idea for you to ask him yourself. You've got some information, talk to him about it. If he listens and things improve, great, if not you might need to consider finding a new relationship.




***TY Padriag You have made things clearer fo me. I may just copy and paste your reply to him :) not really but I realize what and how I need to talk to him about this.***

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 7:09:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

Thank you to everyones comments. Although I am fairly new I had been with a Dom before. Unfortunatly distance became an obstacle and thats why I was looking again. This Dom did have a sadistical side but there was always "after care". It never occurred to me to ask the "new" one about it. He has been in the lifestyle for 11 years and has had 2 slaves. We had been talking 4 and 5 times a day and had met twice before so I felt totally safe accepting his "collar". But I was totally unprepared for all that went on last night. I know I need to talk to him about this but am finding myself scared to bring it up. And after reading all the comments I really belive I am with the wrong person.

it is good to read and take in the ideas of others, but the wisdom to take to heart that which is yours is for you to decide.

start with thinking about what it is that you wanted with this person, how it has changed, and why you feel scared with the idea of bringing it up. if you decide you might still have some feelings for someone who collared you, or just to clear up any misconceptions or perceptions, talk to him. you and he were the only ones there, so you and he are the ones to talk of how you felt, how he felt, how you both thought, and then bring in ideas that you have decided are important.

in future dealings, it is always a good idea to talk, talk, and talk. one person's idea of being sadistic is not the same as another's. each of us are unique, and each pairing in life is unique. make sure you have the knowledge to see the expectations and whether or not they "fit" with yours. it's never a good idea to find this sort of thing out when you can't do much about it.

i wish you well.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 7:22:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

Thank you to everyones comments. Although I am fairly new I had been with a Dom before. Unfortunatly distance became an obstacle and thats why I was looking again. This Dom did have a sadistical side but there was always "after care". It never occurred to me to ask the "new" one about it. He has been in the lifestyle for 11 years and has had 2 slaves. We had been talking 4 and 5 times a day and had met twice before so I felt totally safe accepting his "collar". But I was totally unprepared for all that went on last night. I know I need to talk to him about this but am finding myself scared to bring it up. And after reading all the comments I really belive I am with the wrong person.

it is good to read and take in the ideas of others, but the wisdom to take to heart that which is yours is for you to decide.

start with thinking about what it is that you wanted with this person, how it has changed, and why you feel scared with the idea of bringing it up. if you decide you might still have some feelings for someone who collared you, or just to clear up any misconceptions or perceptions, talk to him. you and he were the only ones there, so you and he are the ones to talk of how you felt, how he felt, how you both thought, and then bring in ideas that you have decided are important.

in future dealings, it is always a good idea to talk, talk, and talk. one person's idea of being sadistic is not the same as another's. each of us are unique, and each pairing in life is unique. make sure you have the knowledge to see the expectations and whether or not they "fit" with yours. it's never a good idea to find this sort of thing out when you can't do much about it.

i wish you well.




**I thought that we were going to be talking more last night but as soon as we got to where we were going....I stepped thru the door and was immediately slammed up against a wall and told we were home and on! From that point on I really had no choices. 4 hours later it ended just as abruptly. I do see now that I needed to talk alot more beforehand and be clearer on who I am and what I am looking for. I think he is just too much for me at this stage in my growing. TY** I should add that I learned to listen to the voices of experience...2 very dear and kind Doms from collarme did advise me that it was too soon for me to be with him and that he was too much for me. ANd I made the wrong choice.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 8:04:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt
***TY Padriag You have made things clearer fo me. I may just copy and paste your reply to him :) not really but I realize what and how I need to talk to him about this.***

You're welcome... I had a really long day today and logging in here and reading your note kinda made me smile. Glad I could help with some clarity.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 8:08:05 PM   
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You're not asking for much. You have a right to desire what you desire.

But part of finding your happiness is finding the right partner to share it with.

Ditto, thanks.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 11/30/2005 10:31:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PriapicBratt

**I thought that we were going to be talking more last night but as soon as we got to where we were going....I stepped thru the door and was immediately slammed up against a wall and told we were home and on! From that point on I really had no choices. 4 hours later it ended just as abruptly. I do see now that I needed to talk alot more beforehand and be clearer on who I am and what I am looking for. I think he is just too much for me at this stage in my growing. TY** I should add that I learned to listen to the voices of experience...2 very dear and kind Doms from collarme did advise me that it was too soon for me to be with him and that he was too much for me. ANd I made the wrong choice.

it sounds like you walked into a very frightening situation. i am glad that you've had some time to think and have others as well as yourself looking out for your best interests. i'm sure that given time you will find one who is better suited for you. just we've to go slowly. (advice to not just you, but others, including me, as well). i do wish you well in the future.

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RE: Asking for too much? - 12/1/2005 6:23:34 PM   
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Just a final thanks to all that commented. My decision was actually made easier today. My "master" informed someone he had no subs or slaves and was still looking. Unbeknownest to him, he was speaking to a friend of mine. So much for the trust issue. A special thanks to my 3 "mentors" lol who, while admitting they have alterior motives :) , showed the class, kindness, and patience they all have as Doms. Ty Sirs!

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RE: Asking for too much? - 12/1/2005 6:38:41 PM   
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I love that song "I heard it through the grapvine."

Of course, unless you hear it from the source it is nothing but jealousie's and sour grapes.

Think about it.

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