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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 12:44:06 PM   
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Also, the lack of good-looking or even reasonable-looking men in bdsm porn (at least the porn i've seen) is amazing.


This is hardly BDSM specific. With the exception of gay porn, I would say that most men in porn are hideous, in my opinion.

As to humiliation/degradation--it's a kink. You dig it, or you don't. And while it appears to be more prevalent, or at least more out in the open, in F Dom/ m sub relations, not liking it doesn't preclude you from having a BDSM relationship.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 12:44:27 PM   
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Yes. Just because I like to get kinky, I have thrown all of my previous preferences out the window, and now I enjoy beating trolls with sticks.

OP- either you are clueless, or you are fishing for complements.

I'll go with the second.

As far as gnarly guys being in the femdom porn, I think it might have to do with the fact that the males get payed MUCH less than the female. I know Kink.com recruits women from all over the states, and then pays their travel expenses. Men have to be local, and I'm 'pretty' sure that travel is not repaid.

If I want to see pretty boys, I watch gay porn.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 1:53:55 PM   
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I LOVE humiliation however the things used to humiliate me are NOT the things i have insecuritys about.... for example if my Owner called me a nasty wet little girl and chided me publicly for making a mess of my panties and of course, then made me take them off - THAT would be humiliating AND sexy as hell to me however, if he called me a fat, ugly cow and said that he was only with me till someone better came along, that would be humilating but not at all fun and would just lead to me being broken in spirit.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 2:20:52 PM   
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Question: Is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? Do most mistresses (incidentally this will be posted almost verbatim in the master thread as well) follow the attraction patterns prevalent in the larger world? I only ask because I've noticed that a lot of BDSM seems focused around the dominant insulting the submissive (i.e. about having a small penis, being ugly, being fat, being short, being stupid, being useless, etc.). What if you are none of these things? Is that a turn off? I may have gotten the wrong idea here entirely, but it seems to me that BDSM (or at least Mistress-Slave relationships) seem to be based on the mistress exploiting the slave's weaknesses for her own pleasure and the slave getting off on being exploited. Also, the lack of good-looking or even reasonable-looking men in bdsm porn (at least the porn i've seen) is amazing.  


I know in my relationship, Mistress has never pulled the humiliation card on me.  I have insecurities and self-esteem issues (in regards to my appearance, i don't think I'm that attractive...my height and size, I'm only 5'5" and 155 pounds), but Mistress constantly tells me how sexy she thinks I am or how I'm perfect for her.  I know I'm certainly not every domme's cup of tea, but I certainly don't see what Mistress sees when she looks at me.  Hell, I'm not complaining...I have the love of a gorgeous domme!
 
She doesn't spend time poking at my weaknesses to break me down.  She does everything she can to bring me up and make me feel special.  If she did the humiliation thing to me, it would certainly be a turn-off and make me question why I would give myself to someone who thinks so little of me.
 
On top of that, I get perved so little that I have to perv myself so I can see the little "Who's Viewing Me" option turn red...


I think you're GEORGEOUS & your Mistress is one lucky woman!


Awww....shucks!  ***blushes***  Thank you so much!  You have no idea how much that made me smile!  Mistress tells me that all the time, but I figure she's just saying it because she has to.  It's like a mother saying her baby is beautiful when, in actuality, the kid is so ugly that it's protected by Greenpeace.
 
For whatever reason, a compliment from a total stranger seems to positively affect you more than a compliment from a loved one.  So thank you again.  I feel I am a very lucky man to be with her, though.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 3:00:09 PM   
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most men in porn are hideous


ron jeremy....YIKES....but apparently in his early years...he wasnt as bad as he turned out to be...and how did he still do porn at that point????


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 3:14:40 PM   
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most men in porn are hideous


ron jeremy....YIKES....but apparently in his early years...he wasnt as bad as he turned out to be...and how did he still do porn at that point????



A:  His dick is still huge.
B:  He supposedly can get and stay erect at the drop of a hat.
B:  He became a caricature of himself and his celebrity status will sell movies.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 3:25:51 PM   
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but he was hairy...and became fat....and still did porn....so size does matter then.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 4:34:04 PM   
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Virginpotty, thank you. I'm so glad that others are able to see pet for who he is and that he is VERY attractive.

I guess I'm the type who doesn't look for ugly, or someone with really bad defects. I've had plenty of bad experiences in the past with those sort. After I gave up and decided unless someone 'perfect' came along I'd just be alone.....*POOF* here comes ole' rubberpet a.k.a. my knight in shining rubber to make me the Happiest Domme in the world!
 I just wanted someone to be myself around and to treat badly (in a good way) not really looking to exploit anyone, just have fun. Afterall life is too short.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 5:21:46 PM   
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 I'm only 5'5" and 155 pounds),


EEK! I'm, like, two of you.

Granted, I'm a foot and two inches taller... but still :(



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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 5:30:29 PM   
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OH GGGGOOODDDD!

It's just so HHHHAAAARRRDDD being this beautiful.

You don't even know!



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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 5:37:20 PM   
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OH GGGGOOODDDD!

It's just so HHHHAAAARRRDDD being this beautiful.

You don't even know!




Ha...yep. This is a hilarious thread. It's almost like one writers would make up, but there is a pic and all. Heh.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 5:48:01 PM   
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Ha...yep. This is a hilarious thread. It's almost like one writers would make up, but there is a pic and all. Heh.


It's a product of Collarme.com's Random Troll Generator v1.03 that was installed to keep these boards interesting.

I wish they would spawn another version of Bobgkin.


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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 6:23:12 PM   
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Can you be too good looking to find a sub?

Can you be too ugly?

Do I want to know which one I am?




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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 6:34:09 PM   
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I'll just say, my dildo is bigger than just about any man's cock- trust me, I can humiliate anyone no matter how perfect their physical specimen may be. 

Any characteristic you can name will be a fault to some and a strength to others.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 7:38:06 PM   
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as to enjoying both humliation and degradation. yes, my weight is one of my softer points. i may have no modesty, but to use that factor in those aspects is just gonna push my tweak buttons. i have never had doms or play partners hit those vanity buttons. i know that men have slightly different humilation factors, but no Mistress, well one worth a dern, ever tapped those sensitive truly vulnerable softs.

my experience anywho
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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 7:50:59 PM   
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"is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world?"
How the hell would I know?



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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 7:51:40 PM   
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Ha.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 8:20:50 PM   
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As it's been said already, not everybody is into humilation.   Personally, I enjoy verbal humilation and don't have an issue with humilating somebody who is good looking even.  :-)

In fact you can even humilate somebody for actually being so damn good looking, if one wants to.   "You're such a beautiful hot looking bitch, you do think that makes you fucking special or something?"  ha ha ha...  "You think I'm going to go easy on you just because your beautiful, I don't give a fuck how hot looking you are, I'm going to spank your ass fucking sore and fuck you like a cheap worthless slut!".

But seriously, looks really do not make somebody immune from all kinds of verbal humilation or humilation in general.   If somebody is really vain and into how good they look, well let's just say it's fun to put them in front of mirror while you mess with their appearence.  Screw up their make up, add make up in bad ways, mess up their hair, do what you can to make them not look so hot.  They get to watch you do this to them in a mirror as well.   That or mess them up, then show them what they now look like in a mirror.

In many regards you have to actually hit a mental nerve inside of somebody to truely humilate them.  Involves getting to know what's inside a persons mind and soul, something that is past being skin deep.

What humilates one person might amuse another.  You never know unless you get to know your partner and your partener gets to know you.

Hell, even us Dom types can be subjected to humilation if somebody knows the right triggers and buttons to hit.  Humilation is a human thing and it's pretty varied.

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 10:14:06 PM   
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Look at japanese porn! The men are so hideous they all wear masks!

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RE: is being good-looking a downside in the bdsm world? - 9/24/2008 10:20:34 PM   
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Porn is bought by men, who aren't interested in what the men look like, only what the women look like. Which is why they aren't paying for good looking men.

Beyond that, a lot of the humiliation, lowly worm stuff is because male subs with little experience see this in porn and assume it is what they have to say to get along with a femdomme. And newer dommes also assume they have to be into this to get a sub.

Dommes with more experience may use humiliation but not the kind that is patterned on bad porn fantasy wanker material. Since bdsm porn is made by men for profit who are not into bdsm, you can't expect it to be a true indicator of what people really do like.


While you are correct about porn being bought mainly by men, the reason they use "average" men is so that the average guy can see himself in that role, which heightens the satisfaction and the chance for future purchases. It's all marketing.

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