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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 8:21:57 AM   
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Even when walking in public and a large clot starts flowing down one's inner thigh......


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 8:40:11 AM   
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Honey, both my Darling and I have been through this. Neither of us did the 'hormone replacement' thing... it didn't work for my Darling, and I had cancer and couldn't. Women have been dealing with this since the beginning of time, and the only way to get through it is to get through it. We use some of the old techniques and alternative health techniques like naturopathy, homeopathy, massage, exercise and chocolate to get through the roughest patches, just like women have done for millenia, and we consider it a "rite of passage". I've gone all the way through now, and have come out the other side. I'm not as patient as I was before the menopause -- but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, since I think, now, that I may have been -too- patient with some things that I just deal with head-on now.

Hot flashes: My Darling and I, both dominant, call these 'power surges'. We make sure we are clean and have good deodorant. For the s-types we've worked through this, we allow lighter clothing, and give more leeway as to the temperature that the house is kept at while they're having struggling times.

Night sweats: Lots of middle-of-the-night cool showers, and lots of having to have bedding hung to air. Again, we have more leeway in terms of sleeping arrangements (since menopause, the only person I can sleep with is my Darling in any case, and even then we're thinking that we might prefer to sleep alone), house temperature, and basic comfort/health issues. Homeopathic and naturopathic solutions are used where night-sweats interfere too much with sleep.

Mood swings: We just let the people around us know we were going through menopause and were apt to get cranky. We have two young adult female daughters (boomerang adults) living with us, so 'cycle time' that coincides with 'menopause mood swing' time happens pretty regularly -- but we haven't killed each other or anyone else yet, so I'd say we're managing. For our servants, we have recognized the normal volatility of this time, but we -do- crack down on outbursts of temper -- they can be as annoyed as they feel... but the normal discipline and courtesy of the household will not suffer for it. In the same way, though we may be more irritable, and may even be irascible with one another, my Darling and I -do- strive for courtesy in dealing with both our servants and our younger household members (until and unless they repeat things we've already said annoy us... in which case, they're liable to be raked over the coals).

Cramps, muscle spasms, malaise, exhaustion, etc.: We deal with those in ourselves and others with compassion, though we're both very much inclined to encourage self-help techniques and things like regular exercise and a good diet, which can help.

Weight re-distribution: The only thing that deals with this is exercise and a strict diet. Frankly, I chose to just deal with the physical changes wrought by menopause, the physical restrictions of a mobility disorder, and the prednisone required by my health situation by embracing my changed shape graciously and enjoying life in the body I have. We eat foods that are close to their natural source, our diet is high in raw foods and naturally-raised foods, and we don't binge on sugar, salt, or processed junk very often... but we don't dwell on repression and restriction, either. We try to keep a positive attitude about the changes we're going through, and enjoy life to the fullest in the ways that make us feel -good- about getting up in the morning.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 8:43:39 AM   
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My Mother used to call them Power Surges and advise all to keep out of the way or be shocked. Now I have a fridge magnet that says, "Women don't have hot flushes, they have Power Surges". Have taken one of them into every work environment that I have ever been in since I found them. At least it brings a smile to all faces, male and female alike.

*LOL This is -exactly- the phrase we use at our house -- and it seems to be followed by an intense period of "I CAN'T STAND THIS PIGSTY ANY MORE!!!" on both our parts! *LOL*

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 9:53:25 AM   
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Had a complete hysterectomy at 40, went on hormone replacement, and still have hot flashes. i really hate it when my head sweats at work! I have become used to sweating like a pig. I sleep on cotton, wear cotton, think cotton - do you see a pattern here? .
And i have to say - Sirs insistance that i be naked is not a hardship once i got used to it.

I can't snuggle for long unless Sir is looking for sweaty surfaces  but we play footsy in bed so we aren't completely disconnected.

I also started working out, and have noticed that my sweatiness is getting less. I guess the excess fat was holding heat in.

I think the best thing is not to get too worked up in the idea. Its just a few physical symptoms that will resolve themselves eventually. Life is good - no periods, panties stay the colour they started out as, and no buying feminine hygiene products!! Woohoo - what a great thing!!!

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 9:54:29 AM   
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how come nobody mentioned night sweats....am i the only one who gets them???
its a part of meno isnt it????

my sheets dont like it thats for sure...


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 10:17:29 AM   
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HEY... I mentioned Night Sweats! *LOL*

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 10:37:16 AM   
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HEY... I mentioned Night Sweats! *LOL*


your post was too long for me to read



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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 10:59:43 AM   
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I am perimenopausal but not having it too bad.  The main problem I had was with my periods.  That caused a problem when having sex because it would come on just out of the blue.  It got very annoying.  I had a procedure done called an Ablasion and now I dont have a period at all.  It has been wonderful!  I still have the basic symptons but no bleeding or cramping.  The other thing I do notice is not being able to get very wet during sex.  I can be so horny I can't handle it and still will not produce much lubrication.  Using lubrication helps some but it is very hard to find one that isnt tacky and sticky.  The only time I get mood swings are when I would normally be starting my period.  Daddy is great about being supportive and understanding.  No hot flashes yet!  Thank goodness and hopefully I wont have to experience that.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 11:20:20 AM   
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I am just starting down this path and I can tell you hot flashes SUCK! My male slave deals with it as he should, he is helpful, obedient, and does whatever I need him too. He strives to make me comfortable and it just shows me what a jewel he truly is to own.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 11:49:34 AM   
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I don't have anyone who is mature enough to lean on or listen without hesitation, so I just deal with it like the rest of us seem to do. 
I try to remember that it might just be all in My head and I bite My tongue instead of opening My mouth....although, there are times when that doesn't work.
 
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The main problem I had was with my periods.  That caused a problem when having sex because it would come on just out of the blue.  It got very annoying.  I had a procedure done called an Ablasion and now I dont have a period at all.  It has been wonderful!  I still have the basic symptons but no bleeding or cramping. 


That is what I'm hoping for, the ablasion instead of a hysterectomy.. it all depends on the biopsy and ultrasound..*grumbles*...
 I'm all too familiar with clots.  and cramps. and bleeding for 4 weeks out of the month (yes, I KNOW there are only 4 weeks in a month, lol).  Having to worry about ruining the sheets or the mattress itself because the bleeding comes even when it isn't time.
 
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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 11:56:51 AM   
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How aout a Master/Dom - how will He deal with the moodswings - heatflashes and other things their submissive or slave might go through?



Granted we aren't there yet but, from how he's dealt with my mental issues, I suspect Valyraen will educate himself on the topic and demand honest feedback from me how I feel. Hopefully I'll be one of the women with no problems at all.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 1:30:45 PM   
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Well...from what my doctor recently told me 'menopause' is the point when you no longer bleed for 12 months. Anything else is peri-menopause at this point in my life and overall it sucks..big time. My mood swings, going from hot to cold in seconds, and the variety of all the other new symptoms that I am now experiencing isn't my idea of a fun time. I was told this could last another 8 to 10 years. Ugggggghhhh
 
On the flip side...my desire for sex is not reduced and unfortunately at times it appears to be in overdrive. Not living with Master and having aging parents that interfere with scheduled time together...is not much fun either.
 
 

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 1:56:25 PM   
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Good morning hon.
 
Are the hot flashes bugging you again?
 
How do men, dom or sub deal with their significant other going through menopause?
 
LMMFAO.......VERY VERY, carefully!


lol...nope..i am good, actually  the wondercream worked..hehe....and yes...the men in this house did not say anything when i opened the door...shut the door..opened the door...shut the door - t-shirt - sweatshirt...good god....it was hysterical at times....


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 2:02:47 PM   
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Mistresses, female submissives and female slaves will meet this period of life - my question is:

How does  a Mistress deal this if it is her - and will she prefer to deal it alone -  -how will they deal with her slave/submissive  and how does a female slave/submissive deal with it. You know the heatflashes and other fun things.

Just because one is in menopause does not mean that there are hot flashes or anything that needs to be dealt with.  For those who do have hot flashes....no one can make them go away although hormone replacement therapy can help some.  I do not know of any way for her to share her hot flashes with another.  Being sympathetic will help...best to not make fun of her about the flashes.  A woman who gets hot flashes deals with them because she has no choice....rather like a belly ache...wait for awhile and it should go away.  They are not constant 24/7.


How aout a Master/Dom - how will He deal with the moodswings - heatflashes and other things their submissive or slave might go through?

As said above...a Dom will not share those hot flashes IF they occur.  How he deals with the mood of his submissive is very personal...and each Dom will deal with his submissive AND menopause in his own way. 



would be interesting to hear.



I'm really not sure what you are asking.  Menopause is a period of life.  Actually...hot flashes are not as common during menopause as they are in perimenopause...the years just before menopause.  Some women have no symptoms at all.  Others have hot flashes which are annoying, but they do not stop a person for doing those activities they normally do.  The night sweats can disturb sleep.  Sympathy from a partner is nice during that time, however not required.  I had no sympathy from my then partner and got through it just fine. It is a normal part of life...not something wierd or strange...just normal. 



i know it is a period of life - i was just curious as of how people in this tpe of relationships deal with a cranky, nightsweating, sleepless, hotflashing Mistress - or slave...chuckles...we are women...we are in this together - but the poor Doms and male slaves...somehow i can picture their lives getting a tad more challenging during these times...natural or not...s..i wrote that post in the middle of the night, btw....after 3 sleepless nights - so my wording was probably very interesting - or downright impossible to translate..lol..my bad***


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 4:17:58 PM   
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It's just life and it happens as a process not as an event horizon.....
and time/ time is a wondrous thing. Ever noticed how we don't notice those we love getting older? that's because we are aging too. The universe is just a balance of entropy and synergy.
If i were honest? i wouldn't swap how old i am now for any money in the world seriously.
OK; i had my last child at 43. i do believe i started menopause then but i got HRT and voila! A baby and toddler to look after and i didn't have time to notice.
My skin is better than it ever was...my hair is fabulous even though it is probably grey underneath the glorious henna. I've had surgery on joints but never bothered with plastic. I don't i ever will. My wit is sharper, my sense of where i am and what i want and well: orgasms get better by the day, sex is more meaningful, my perversions are blessedly all real time and friends are precious so very very precious. Those who were my little children are now adults in their own right and teens who value my support.
i have done with adolescent spots and moodiness, done with the baby project and the house project and have a great deal more self-worth than ever because you know what? Life is too damn short....it's very very short indeed and many of my friends have passed, dead to the ravages of drugs, disease and the demands of stress.
i wasn't born in a third world country nor i have i witnessed famine, drought or first hand warfare......what's a few hormone changes? My Master is younger than i am....and i still turn heads, (and am still needing to be controlled lol).....
oh the question.....how does my Master deal with my menopause? i don't know: He just deals with me.


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 4:48:18 PM   
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We've got it going on now. It's actually not that big a deal. You just get on with it.
True there is the odd thunderous moment and it's best to put the best china away, but that's always been the case in a house with two dominants in it.
I have a collection of good books and DVD's and really, really expensive chocolates in the bedroom for afternoon ME time. I also declare mirror free days, for when I can't look at myself, but they are few and far between and respond well to absinthe. Don't worry,  it's easier than your driving test, LadyLove.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 8:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KonDomme

My Mother used to call them Power Surges and advise all to keep out of the way or be shocked. Now I have a fridge magnet that says, "Women don't have hot flushes, they have Power Surges". Have taken one of them into every work environment that I have ever been in since I found them. At least it brings a smile to all faces, male and female alike.


LOL

I once saw one of those Maxine cards that said "Don't think of it as getting hot flashes.  Think of it as your inner child playing with matches" 

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/28/2008 11:59:33 PM   
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In my humble opinion it's not so bad if one is focused AHEAD. Much of life is about the joys of planning for the future, setting goals and achieving them. It just so happens, i believe, that menopause happens at the same time as kids leave home, and male significants get promotions, and the worst of it? Society's attitude towards menopause, as if a females brains are in her eggs! Mid-life crisis, being left on the shelf, empty nest syndrome....all of these factors plus much more often turn our focus inwards onto symptoms.
GO! Go! girls go! whatever your orientation. Keep the drive, keep the focus, keep the self-worth and symptoms, like all other symptoms of againg, will just become of secondary importance. An orgasm a day keeps the hot flushes away! (At least when i was flushing with orgasm i never noticed the other stuff!).


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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/29/2008 2:32:34 AM   
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Well i tackled it by taking my darling (15 years younger than me) Master to "Menopause the Musical" so He knows exactly what He's in for! He loved it (and we even play the CD sometimes and sing along!) ... and figures He'll just handle it ... carefully! He recalls the old joke about reasoning with a terrorist or a woman with PMT and rewrites that to refer to menopausal mood swings! And His favourite expression is "Discretion is the better form of valour". In other words, He knows when to push His Domliness ... and when not to!

I'm perimenopausal but only had a few signs and symptoms so far. The mood swings are actually better than when I used to get PMT when I had heavy periods (pre-Master). PsyVamp, I had the endometrial ablation some years ago and it was a great success for Me! Some women have no bleeding afterwards, My endometrium was made of sterner stuff and some regrew ... but it means I have a very light bleed, barely a day or 2! It's AWESOME after years of bleeding for days on end, and yes, there are some 5-week months LOL! And it means I will know when they stop completely! I think the lack of mood swings are due to less prostaglandins being released as there is less endometrium to grow and thicken up. Hope it will be as successful for You if that's the option selected.

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RE: Oh joy -menopause - what now? - 9/29/2008 5:18:51 AM   
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At least female organs work in with age. I imagine taking a pill to get off being quite the emotional hertel.


not necessarily.  if you have a good foundation in the relationship, and can respect each other OUT of the bedroom, why wouldnt that follow into the bedroom?

TheEngineer is 50. i'm 45.   he has some heath issues, some of which he was born with.  i have health issues.  we both know that between his stuff and my stuff, we're going to have times that not everything is going to click on on all 6 cylinders and we're going to have difficulties at times.  we work around those times.

maybe its not quite there enough to have intercourse, but enough that he can get off.  ok, we do other things than intercourse.  its a bit of a hurdle at times but its NOT a pill to "get off".  those particular medications allow a man to achieve erection if he cannot otherwise get hard enough to penetrate his partner.

being understanding about health issues, whether it be erectile dysfunction, menopause, or even the lingering cold that makes it difficult to feel sexy....that goes a long way in keeping the relationship chugging along.

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