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tsatske -> RE: weight issues (10/7/2008 4:10:13 PM)
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Please forgive me, Darcy,
I so OFTEN agree with your posts, I will have to disagree here.
This is like telling a drunk not to go to AA, because they must simply learn to not drink. Not to stop drinking because of family or the fact that your about to lose your job, cause that won't work anyway - wait till the only thing you want to quit for is you, then you can quit. If you live that long.
I will die within the next decade of weight related issues if I do not lose the weight.
There is significant evidence that being as much as twenty pounds over weight is healthier than lifelong dieting. However, please note two facts about this:
1. for the morbidly obese, ANY loss, even a couple of percent of body fat, begins to significantly impact health in a positive way.
2. Inspite of what your logic, based on pop-pschology tells you, there are no studies showing that losing weight for the 'wrong' reason results in yo-yo dieting.
As Susan Powder has said - lose weight for any reason that works, just lose it!
I have never met a nutrietionist not in love with WW. WW is nothing more and nothing less than learning to eat healthy, and getting support to do it. No special foods required. Eat from your grocery store. Eat in any resteraunt. Learn that you can eat any food - just balance it into your plan. Be around other actual successes and strugglers and learn what works.
Regardless of myths to the contrary:
WW does manufacture food but it is in no way required to work the WW program. On the WW program you can eat ANY food.
WW requires 2 TBLSP of heart healthy oil a day, 2 - 3 servings of dairy a day, 5 or more servings of free veggies a day, 8 glasses of water a day.
The WW program includes exercise.
Because the WW program is measured to your body size and grows with you, it is less likely to result in metabolism shut down.
I am losing successfully on WW, the greatest, most logical, emperical based program in the world.
I also belong to this Yahoo group:
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And, chymes, thanks for the WW support.
and, yes, it does help when the Man in your life is supportive. My last Master wanted me to lose weight. I lost 35 lbs the first 3 months I lived with him. then stopped. Actual comments from that man (who is a dear and good man, just clueless on what women need to support them in weight loss):
'35 lbs? really? you can't tell.'
'how can you eat so much and still lose weight'
we had an on going arguement about night time snacks, becuase he was trying to lose, as well.
My 35 calorie frozen fudge bar, verses his row of crackers, weighing in at 300 calories. He didn't like crackers, that why he ate them. He loved the jello cups I bought, but wouldn't eat them, because it was anti diet to indulge. (5 calories).
I kept telling him, 'you are right. inside your body, the cells are right now going, 'oh, that poor man, it's not like he enjoyed the saltines, so we won't count those.'
Master, on the other hand, keeps track of my progress, gives me 'atta girls', and rewards, as well. Big rewards every 20 pounds. A special impliment (nasty one, too :) ) saved for wiegh in day, one swat per pound. (yum) at 140, he is going to jump out of a plane with me.
of course, that involves him too much, so it won't work. just like i am bound to lose more eating 300 cals. i hate than 5 that i love. oh, the logic of the thin....
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