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ORIGINAL: SlyStone


I really don't know the history of bdsm but I am wondering if what exists today has become kinda mainstream and watered down from its conception to now. Maybe it's the internet, or sexual liberation, or maybe it as the natural course of things,  but it it just doesn't seem very alternative in that go your own way and fuck the societal norm kind of way that it used to be even a few years ago, let alone, I assume, at it's beginnings.

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Cool with a capital L?

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone



I am not asking if d/s is a good or bad thing or if it works for you and I really hope I don't have to explain COOL, cause if I do, than I am way to old for this for sure.

I realize that the majority of people in this country are confused by the concept of bdsm and view it as a sick perversion,  and I know this because I am all about sick perversion, but the "majority" is usually overestimated in both numbers and commonality of opinion.

I really don't know the history of bdsm but I am wondering if what exists today has become kinda mainstream and watered down from its conception to now. Maybe it's the internet, or sexual liberation, or maybe it as the natural course of things,  but it it just doesn't seem very alternative in that go your own way and fuck the societal norm kind of way that it used to be even a few years ago, let alone, I assume, at it's beginnings.

And that may be a good thing, I really don't know.


But, back to the question..................

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I doubt that BDSM has a history per se;

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ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone



I am not asking if d/s is a good or bad thing or if it works for you and I really hope I don't have to explain COOL, cause if I do, than I am way to old for this for sure.

I realize that the majority of people in this country are confused by the concept of bdsm and view it as a sick perversion,  and I know this because I am all about sick perversion, but the "majority" is usually overestimated in both numbers and commonality of opinion.

I really don't know the history of bdsm but I am wondering if what exists today has become kinda mainstream and watered down from its conception to now. Maybe it's the internet, or sexual liberation, or maybe it as the natural course of things,  but it it just doesn't seem very alternative in that go your own way and fuck the societal norm kind of way that it used to be even a few years ago, let alone, I assume, at it's beginnings.

And that may be a good thing, I really don't know.


But, back to the question..................

I doubt that BDSM has a history per se; I'm sure that throughout history there have been millions and millions of people who derived sexual pleasure from things/activities other than the usual, missionary position (sorry to be so graphic).

As far as asking the question "has it changed over time" I'm sure the answer is no because E/everyone's different, W/we all do things O/our way so rather than saying things have changed, I'm betting its all been done before, its just that in modern times its become more acceptable and accessible.

Editied to say I think BDSM is very cool.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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I doubt that BDSM has a history per se;

Everything has a history. In fact i'm sure not long ago someone was putting a timeline together here of the important events in bdsm history.
 
I kind of dislike this bdsm is cool mentality. Whats cool about it? What we do is no more special or cool than mary and peter down the road who have missionary position sex every other weekend and oral sex on birthdays.

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

No, BDSM has a definite history, you can trace back to the terms S/M and BDSM and the foundation of organized groups where folks engaged in consensual practices with each other that might have seemed unusual or extreme in mainstream culture. Gayle Rubin is probably the leading SM historian today though Peter Tupper's work on a Victorian era couples suggests that there is more in previous centuries than we have solid evidence for.

That is the big problem: Solid evidence.

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

I really don't know the history of bdsm but I am wondering if what exists today has become kinda mainstream and watered down from its conception to now.

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Maybe it's the internet, or sexual liberation, or maybe it as the natural course of things,  but it it just doesn't seem very alternative in that go your own way and fuck the societal norm kind of way that it used to be even a few years ago, let alone, I assume, at it's beginnings.