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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 7:11:16 AM   
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What I find interesting in the Indiana ACORN problems is that there are 2200 false applications that appear to have been filled out and signed by the same person.  That doesn't smell like a problem with the organization; it sounds like they had a bad apple and need to work with the officials in Indiana to find this person and make sure that he/she is not involved in future ACORN activity.  As for the other states I don't have exact information on what the problems were but am waiting for more detailed information.

What I *do* find repulsive is that Repubs are looking up foreclosures so they can challenge the right to vote of people who have recently lost their home and did not have the time to change the address on their registration forms.  Apparently they believe those people will favor Obama by a wide margin...



" That doesn't smell like a problem with the organization; it sounds like they had a bad apple "

Exactly...

There isn`t a want for info and facts,by cons.There`s a want of doubt and innuendo.

There`s a lot of easily tricked folks out there and they`re the target audience,like that poor old woman who McCain took the mic from after she said she read Obama was an Arab.

It`s just one small part of a very dirty campaign.

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"What I *do* find repulsive is that Repubs are looking up foreclosures so they can challenge the right to vote of people who have recently lost their home and did not have the time to change the address on their registration forms"

Yup.A shameless bunch they are .No capacity for embarrassment.
Cons need to cheat to win,that`s why they are so damm paranoid that others are cheating.

Imagine after the trauma of losing your home and job,you  find out that your vote was stolen as well.

Shame on them!

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Rex,

Just b/c CNN or ABC repeats the charge doesn`t give it any more credibility than the cons gave it when they made the charge.It`s still bull shit,just repeated over and over.That`s what they want,an echo chamber b/c the more it`s repeated the more credibility it seems to have.

What gets me are the folks pretending that they believe it,and then expect to be taken seriously or responded to.They know it`s bull shit, but are playing along with the ugly dark game of character assignation.The ACORN as Obama`s cheating outfit is purely a conservative constructn and a political stunt.

It`s also insulting to inteligent people.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 10:17:47 AM   
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A little cold reality here ...there is a major step missing between registring dead people...and the dead actually voting.....when someone figures out a process whereby the dead can get up and appear at a polling place on Nov 4th(or cats for that matter)...I will start to worry,till than all is cool.


My grandparents "voted" after their deaths as registered Repubs for 20 years for grandma and almost 10 for grandpa...we found out after the sheriff deputy came looking for them (on different occasions, of course) for dodging jury duty.  In both cases we had to appeal to the sec. of state here to get them removed from the voter rolls and it was a pain even with all of the documentation that they were and had been dead for a very, very long time.  The "registered but dead" crowd is a very sought after demographic around here...

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 10:28:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: smilingjaguar

*fr*

What I find interesting in the Indiana ACORN problems is that there are 2200 false applications that appear to have been filled out and signed by the same person.  That doesn't smell like a problem with the organization; it sounds like they had a bad apple and need to work with the officials in Indiana to find this person and make sure that he/she is not involved in future ACORN activity.  As for the other states I don't have exact information on what the problems were but am waiting for more detailed information.

What I *do* find repulsive is that Repubs are looking up foreclosures so they can challenge the right to vote of people who have recently lost their home and did not have the time to change the address on their registration forms.  Apparently they believe those people will favor Obama by a wide margin...



" That doesn't smell like a problem with the organization; it sounds like they had a bad apple "

Exactly...

There isn`t a want for info and facts,by cons.There`s a want of doubt and innuendo.

There`s a lot of easily tricked folks out there and they`re the target audience,like that poor old woman who McCain took the mic from after she said she read Obama was an Arab.

It`s just one small part of a very dirty campaign.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"What I *do* find repulsive is that Repubs are looking up foreclosures so they can challenge the right to vote of people who have recently lost their home and did not have the time to change the address on their registration forms"

Yup.A shameless bunch they are .No capacity for embarrassment.
Cons need to cheat to win,that`s why they are so damm paranoid that others are cheating.

Imagine after the trauma of losing your home and job,you  find out that your vote was stolen as well.

Shame on them!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rex,

Just b/c CNN or ABC repeats the charge doesn`t give it any more credibility than the cons gave it when they made the charge.It`s still bull shit,just repeated over and over.That`s what they want,an echo chamber b/c the more it`s repeated the more credibility it seems to have.

What gets me are the folks pretending that they believe it,and then expect to be taken seriously or responded to.They know it`s bull shit, but are playing along with the ugly dark game of character assignation.The ACORN as Obama`s cheating outfit is purely a conservative constructn and a political stunt.

It`s also insulting to inteligent people.


I never once implied it was a conservative construct. And we must be on different pages about credibility, the registration forms in questions were shown on air by a democrat. What would she have to gain? Not a damn thing. I do believe it to be the case they have cheated on at least 2100 forms on one Ohio county. Thats a  hell of a stack. I am also very insulted that you so dismiss something because it does not fit your views, even with evidence sitting right there in a county office. So how many counties are there, and how many has Acorn worked in? I agree there are bad apples in every bunch, but to give an entire organization a free pass is just as insulting. I could give 2 shits less who wins, but voter fraud is something I do care about. So please, go ahead and insult me some more. I am neither a conservative or a liberal, and like I said, couldn't care less who wins.


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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 11:46:44 AM   
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A little cold reality here ...there is a major step missing between registring dead people...and the dead actually voting.....when someone figures out a process whereby the dead can get up and appear at a polling place on Nov 4th(or cats for that matter)...I will start to worry,till than all is cool.


My grandparents "voted" after their deaths as registered Repubs for 20 years for grandma and almost 10 for grandpa...we found out after the sheriff deputy came looking for them (on different occasions, of course) for dodging jury duty.  In both cases we had to appeal to the sec. of state here to get them removed from the voter rolls and it was a pain even with all of the documentation that they were and had been dead for a very, very long time.  The "registered but dead" crowd is a very sought after demographic around here...

Please explain to me how being carried on the registration polls......has anything at all to do with actually voting....Unless you are saying gramps and granny actually voted,if so we have a story here!!!!!!!
Rex,do you have any numbers that show these fraudulent voters actually cast a vote...if so who did they vote for?And in what numbers? are the dead Pubs,Dems...or heaven forbid Independants?

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:12:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: smilingjaguar

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

A little cold reality here ...there is a major step missing between registring dead people...and the dead actually voting.....when someone figures out a process whereby the dead can get up and appear at a polling place on Nov 4th(or cats for that matter)...I will start to worry,till than all is cool.


My grandparents "voted" after their deaths as registered Repubs for 20 years for grandma and almost 10 for grandpa...we found out after the sheriff deputy came looking for them (on different occasions, of course) for dodging jury duty.  In both cases we had to appeal to the sec. of state here to get them removed from the voter rolls and it was a pain even with all of the documentation that they were and had been dead for a very, very long time.  The "registered but dead" crowd is a very sought after demographic around here...

Please explain to me how being carried on the registration polls......has anything at all to do with actually voting....Unless you are saying gramps and granny actually voted,if so we have a story here!!!!!!!
Rex,do you have any numbers that show these fraudulent voters actually cast a vote...if so who did they vote for?And in what numbers? are the dead Pubs,Dems...or heaven forbid Independants?


Mike, it was a huge stack of voter reg forms...and who care who they would have voted for, its still against the law. I know its a drop in the bucket, but the law is the law.


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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:29:30 PM   
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You've never heard of absentee ballots.


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A little cold reality here ...there is a major step missing between registring dead people...and the dead actually voting.....when someone figures out a process whereby the dead can get up and appear at a polling place on Nov 4th(or cats for that matter)...I will start to worry,till than all is cool.


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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:33:59 PM   
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Probably only the ones used by Armed Service Members that shouldn't be allowed Sanity.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:40:23 PM   
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Sanity do you know how absentee ballots work,are you aware of the scrutiny they are subjected too before they are counted as valid......or do you believe the various Board of Elections simply take these things at face value....I am actually quite interested in your answer ,please google it and get back to me if you would.
Rex,I agree ....and I am sure the authorities are looking into who might have profited from this....but that is  along way from proof of a conspiracy perpetrated by ACORN to affect the general Election....sound more like someone trying to profit from a registration drive than anything else.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:42:48 PM   
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Please explain to me how being carried on the registration polls......has anything at all to do with actually voting....Unless you are saying gramps and granny actually voted,if so we have a story here!!!!!!!
Rex,do you have any numbers that show these fraudulent voters actually cast a vote...if so who did they vote for?And in what numbers? are the dead Pubs,Dems...or heaven forbid Independants?


The sec. of state had them on the list as active voters, meaning their information and identities were used AT THE POLLS TO CAST VOTES. My mom actually got to see the computer database screen listing the elections in which the state had a record of them casting a ballot after their deaths.  Is that clear enough?

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:47:07 PM   
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I never once implied it was a conservative construct. And we must be on different pages about credibility, the registration forms in questions were shown on air by a democrat. 


Um, that same person also said that they all appeared to have been filled out and signed by the same person.  I'm sure if ACORN the organization had been involved they could have found more volunteers to fill out those false registration forms. 

Another thing to realize is that in many states voter registration drives are required by law to turn in every form filled out, even the ones they are fully aware are fraudulent.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 1:55:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

After reading all of the outrage about the Diebold voting machines in these forums, I am wondering what people are thinking of ACORN's voter registration movement?


Another thing that concerns me is the most pure right we have as Americans is being corrupted. 
Also, if the Obama campaign was innocent in it's participation, why hasn't someone spoken up and defended him.  We hear & read these allegations and charges, but we are not given any proof as to his innocense in this horrible scandal.  The only defense I hear is "yawn" or "this is just rethoric from the pubs because they are scared of loosing". 

Give the voters reason to believe Obama is not corrupt.  Give Americans reason to trust him.

Of course in your mind Obama needs defending against charges that Acorn is filing fraudulent registration forms.....Care to explain that in an intelligent fashion....BTW this is America Obama need not prove his innocence,it is incumbant upon those making the scurrilous charge to prove their allegation.....capice?


Obama himself felt the need to defend himself against the charges that he was active with ACORN and the Obama website denied any involvement with this radical organization...until it was taken down from the site. 
Once again, the Obamanation calls every fact about the radical friends and actions of this political enigma wrapped in rhetoric...a "distraction"..I call it "the truth". 

Thank God, or Al Gore, for the internet.  Could you imagine how many lies this phony from Illinois would have been able to get away with...how many relationships he would have been able to hide since the mainstream media spikes every negative article on the guy.  Doesn't he pal around with anyone you would want to meet at a munch
or have a beer with..he just doesn't connect.

Not only was he active with ACORN as one of their attorney's, he trained senior staff at ACORN, and his campaign lied about the $800,000 it gave to ACORN to fund voter registration activism, a great dealof wh ich is turning out to be fraudulent in a number of states.
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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 2:25:35 PM   
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if the shoe were on the other foot, i somehow doubt you would be so calm....LOL

if McCain or Barr campaigns had donated $800,000.00 to an organization to feed, drive them to the polls, buy them cigarettes for registering Pub or independent & influence voters, all the Dems would be screaming foul!! 

Let's find out which foot this shoe is on first. I wouldn't put it past either party to put somebody up to this and specifically to file fraudulent voters.

Plus, we won't have to worry about those dead people voting and were more likely listed as a means of obtaining more money for ACORN.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 2:32:37 PM   
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Please explain to me how being carried on the registration polls......has anything at all to do with actually voting....Unless you are saying gramps and granny actually voted,if so we have a story here!!!!!!!
Rex,do you have any numbers that show these fraudulent voters actually cast a vote...if so who did they vote for?And in what numbers? are the dead Pubs,Dems...or heaven forbid Independants?


The sec. of state had them on the list as active voters, meaning their information and identities were used AT THE POLLS TO CAST VOTES. My mom actually got to see the computer database screen listing the elections in which the state had a record of them casting a ballot after their deaths.  Is that clear enough?

(edited to fix quote)

No smilingjaguar that is not clear enough...what you are describing now is far differant than simply having their names carried on voting rolls.Was an investigation mounted to find who actually used your grandparents identity's to vote.
Again their is a huge step from people not being removed from the voting rolls after they pass....to someone taking advantage of that to cast fraudulant votes...the former is simply a beuracratic snafu...the latter is voting fraud...and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law....is that clear enough?

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 2:37:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: corysub

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: JohnboyNC

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

After reading all of the outrage about the Diebold voting machines in these forums, I am wondering what people are thinking of ACORN's voter registration movement?


Another thing that concerns me is the most pure right we have as Americans is being corrupted. 
Also, if the Obama campaign was innocent in it's participation, why hasn't someone spoken up and defended him.  We hear & read these allegations and charges, but we are not given any proof as to his innocense in this horrible scandal.  The only defense I hear is "yawn" or "this is just rethoric from the pubs because they are scared of loosing". 

Give the voters reason to believe Obama is not corrupt.  Give Americans reason to trust him.

Of course in your mind Obama needs defending against charges that Acorn is filing fraudulent registration forms.....Care to explain that in an intelligent fashion....BTW this is America Obama need not prove his innocence,it is incumbant upon those making the scurrilous charge to prove their allegation.....capice?


Obama himself felt the need to defend himself against the charges that he was active with ACORN and the Obama website denied any involvement with this radical organization...until it was taken down from the site. 
Once again, the Obamanation calls every fact about the radical friends and actions of this political enigma wrapped in rhetoric...a "distraction"..I call it "the truth". 

Thank God, or Al Gore, for the internet.  Could you imagine how many lies this phony from Illinois would have been able to get away with...how many relationships he would have been able to hide since the mainstream media spikes every negative article on the guy.  Doesn't he pal around with anyone you would want to meet at a munch
or have a beer with..he just doesn't connect.

Not only was he active with ACORN as one of their attorney's, he trained senior staff at ACORN, and his campaign lied about the $800,000 it gave to ACORN to fund voter registration activism, a great dealof wh ich is turning out to be fraudulent in a number of states.
                                                                -------o------
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                                        http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor
The fact that Obama ,in the middle of a Presidential campaign felt the need to defend himself against spurious attacks in no way speaks to guilt,but rather the venom of the right.
You might want to be careful in suggesting just who is "dutifully followed the pied piper"...you seem to be marching in lockstep Cory...and marching right smartly if you ask me!

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 2:42:10 PM   
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You've never heard of absentee ballots.

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A little cold reality here ...there is a major step missing between registring dead people...and the dead actually voting.....when someone figures out a process whereby the dead can get up and appear at a polling place on Nov 4th(or cats for that matter)...I will start to worry,till than all is cool.


To my knowledge in most states...it is too late for absentee ballot registration and in fact many 1000's of the voter registrations are being unprocesssed while absentee applications already submitted...are. In many states it is too late to register anyway. So any dead people listed for registration will NOT be able to vote.

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 2:47:02 PM   
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Probably only the ones used by Armed Service Members that shouldn't be allowed Sanity.
And what are you impyling with this post FDD?...you wouldn't be putting words in my mouth would you?

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 3:21:27 PM   
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No smilingjaguar that is not clear enough...what you are describing now is far differant than simply having their names carried on voting rolls.Was an investigation mounted to find who actually used your grandparents identity's to vote.
Again their is a huge step from people not being removed from the voting rolls after they pass....to someone taking advantage of that to cast fraudulant votes...the former is simply a beuracratic snafu...the latter is voting fraud...and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law....is that clear enough?


I didn't say they were on the rolls in my original post.  I said they voted for years after their deaths...I'm sorry that it doesn't get more clear than that.

It's quite commonly acknowledged that it happens here, so I'm rather shocked at the outrage and the disbelief.  It would take a lot for me to believe that it doesn't happen elsewhere, too. What was seen as odd in my area was that my mother got extremely angry at the abuse of her parents' identities and fought for their removal. Literally no one on the local level cared about the fraud.  We were told that my grandparents must be alive because they voted even with the sec. of state staring at their death certificates. It took months just to get them removed because they said they could not remove registered voters who were active.  There was no exception in that rule for people known to be dead, believe it or not.  Investigated?  You must be joking! There was no trail to go back to, no video of the polling place, no ID needed to be shown to vote.  There was only the record of their identities being used to cast a ballot at the polls. The environment without requiring ID to vote is ripe for fraud and abuse, and THAT is why politicians are so against voter ID bills...

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 3:26:41 PM   
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My apologies smilingjaguar,just looked at your profile....if I had known previously you were fro the great state of Mississippi.....I would not have been quite so confused....LOL

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RE: ACORN: In your opinion do the ends justify the means? - 10/13/2008 3:50:03 PM   
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Obama himself felt the need to defend himself against the charges that he was active with ACORN and the Obama website denied any involvement with this radical organization...until it was taken down from the site. 
Once again, the Obamanation calls every fact about the radical friends and actions of this political enigma wrapped in rhetoric...a "distraction"..I call it "the truth". 

Thank God, or Al Gore, for the internet.  Could you imagine how many lies this phony from Illinois would have been able to get away with...how many relationships he would have been able to hide since the mainstream media spikes every negative article on the guy.  Doesn't he pal around with anyone you would want to meet at a munch
or have a beer with..he just doesn't connect.

Not only was he active with ACORN as one of their attorney's, he trained senior staff at ACORN, and his campaign lied about the $800,000 it gave to ACORN to fund voter registration activism, a great dealof wh ich is turning out to be fraudulent in a number of states.
                                                               -------o------
OBAMA OFFICIAL WEBSITE: FIGHT THE "SMEARS"....and the children of Hamlin dutifully followed the Pied Piper.

                                       http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor
The fact that Obama ,in the middle of a Presidential campaign felt the need to defend himself against spurious attacks in no way speaks to guilt,but rather the venom of the right.
You might want to be careful in suggesting just who is "dutifully followed the pied piper"...you seem to be marching in lockstep Cory...and marching right smartly if you ask me!


Spurious attacks?!!  Just keep ignoring the body of evidence about Obama's past and current relationships.  The public has nothing else to base an opinion on this guy than his "two memoirs"...and his questionable relationships and business activities.  At least I know who I am voting for in John McCain..warts and all...and while I am not thrilled about McCain...I have no clue what we are going to get in an Obama adminsitration that would be good for the country.  We are all above the age of reason here and fully understand that "campaign rhetoric" is just "words"!
Obama has run nothing, shown no executive ability..but gets high marks as a "trainer" a "lawyer"..a benefactor of leftist groups via his Chairmanship of Ayers Foundation and as a State Senator.

I guess some people have a very low bar in their selection of President of the United States.  Hey..as was once said, "You can fool some of the people some of the, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time...but, if you can fool them once, it's good for four years in the White House."..

Be well..    cory 

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