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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/16/2008 11:45:40 AM

DavanKael

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Adding mine to the many voices that are expressing concern for you.
Trust is not built by doing something to someone in the fashion you described, imo.
The whole controlling piece; well, again, imo, that isn't really so much about D/s as it stands to easily cross into potential abuse (Not making accusations, just acknowledging the potential sighting of a red flag with the limited information available).
Breath play can be very pleasurable. It is also very risky. The former lead singer of the band INXS died from auto-erotic asphyxiation (They originally thought it suicide via hanging but it wasn't). In my understanding (Not a medical professional here), the lack of blood to the brain is actually more quickly detrimental than the lack of air.
If someone I didn't trust proposed to cut off my blood/oxygen, they'd rather quickly find themselves with a rather scrappy little female doing her very best to do them some damage.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I had the pleasure of the hand of someone I cared about around my throat. We didn't discuss him doing that ahead of time (Although, months ago, we likely discussed it in terms of likes/dislikes, that sort of thing) but I had a certain trust in that person, I know that he understands more than most about physiology, that he is very safety-minded, and, during what we were doing, his eyes never left mine. Could it have gone wrong. Yup. Did I enjoy sharing the experience with him, yes, and I hope/believe he enjoyed sharing the experience with me.
My reminiscing aside, I think, from what you said, that there's more going on here than only the need to discuss breath play. Be careful.
Davan

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/16/2008 2:00:01 PM

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my 2 cents but with a bit of real life experience...

blocking the breath is like holding your breath.. for the most part almost anyone can do it for a few seconds.. you might feel panicky in 10 or 20 seconds but the blood still has oxgyen in it. Some swimmers and divers can hold their breath easily for 60 seconds or more..

So blocking your breath for a few seconds is no worse then holding your breath.. but since you don't have the control it feel more panicky.

Blocking the blood to the brain.. That's a whole different can of worms.. Brain cells can start to die in a matter of seconds without it's oxygen supply. Block the blood and no oxygen can get to the brain cells.. As a consequence of an abrupt interruption of blood flow to the brain, the blood supply stops, the nerve cells that are directly deprived of oxygen quickly die and release the chemicals that they use to communicate with each other. One of these neurotransmitters - glutamate - spreads to surrounding cells and sets off a process called excitotoxicity, causing much more widespread cell death. Glutamate triggers a flood of calcium ions into the cells and, for reasons not previously understood, the level of calcium continues to rise and this kills the neurons.

While i had to go look up the names of the neruotrnasmitter (and spelling..) i remember being told this when my cousin died as a result of having his blood flow blocked during bdsm/sex play. His parnter said it was only blocked for 10 seconds and no more.. but they could not revive him.. The trouble is the brain cells die and start a domino effect and you don't know which cells will die, and if key cells die.. like the one to tell your heart to beat.. you will die..

just my 2 cents..

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/17/2008 9:32:37 AM

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Hey there folks....
I just looked at her profile. Seems she is looking for a mistress! Nothing mentioned about already having a master... hmmmmm.

To the OP:
You have been on this site for a year and you are asking this? I am finding it hard to believe that you have been around for a year and you are asking this question with a certain inconsistency in your story. What gives?

On the other hand, the thread is useful for folks wondering about boundaries, limits, breath and blood play, etc.

well wishes,
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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/17/2008 12:32:20 PM

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wonders why the OP hasnt returned and given us her thoughts?

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/17/2008 1:02:34 PM

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EEK. This doesn't sound like a dom wanting to build trust in the relationship, this sounds like a pouty boy that wants to do things, and if you say no, he either does it anyways or "gets you with guilt trips". If a submissive person acted this way, they would be accused of being bratty. It is apparent that the "trust" he is trying to build isn't going both ways. He expects you to trust him with your very life in his hands, yet you can't trust him to hear you when you say "no" and respect that?

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/17/2008 3:26:10 PM

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i have a few questions, if you don't mind. Mayhap someone else has already asked one or more of them and i missed it while scrolling and skimming through this thread. All the same, i'm going to ask for my own enlightenment, anyway.

1) How long have you known this man? (including interactions prior to accepting his collar)

2) Are you in a 24/7 live-in type relationship with him?

3) Have you the means to take care of yourself should the need to leave your current situation arise?

i'd like to respond to your original post, but i need a bit more information before i go jumping in with both feet, as it were.

Peace favor and blessed be,

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/17/2008 9:11:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeptha
I don't quite get the casual naiveté of the OP's posts.

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
I just looked at her profile. Seems she is looking for a mistress! Nothing mentioned about already having a master... hmmmmm.

I smell a troll.

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RE: What was my master doing to me?! - 10/21/2008 3:05:24 PM

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this is very dangerous, as others have cautioned. when i do breathe control, i make my slave do something that will be noticeable to me when he is going out. it can something like a constant tap, or one thing i do is have my slave work on my nipples, when i feel slaves touch wane, i know it is time to let loose the grip.

this is something all parties must be comfortable with, and have some knowledge of before pursuing. this is by no means entry level stuff.

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