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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:34:54 PM   
Icarys


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No you are misunderstanding me.  As I see it, it doesn't matter who she belongs too or even if she belongs to anyone.

Just as it doesn't matter if the dom has some one or not.

How is one rude and the other not?

Jeff

I've honestly tried to explain it as best I could. I hope anyway. If it's seen as a double standard then it is I guess.

I'm not saying either isn't rude..I'm just saying I would be less apt to be annoyed because she is owned and can't help herself unless she wants to go against her Master.

Regardless of what anyone has gotten from this..I'm not mr goodmanners.. I've done plenty of things wrong..even when I knew what was right in my heart.


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:35:12 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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Status: offline 		Seeeee I warned..... ummmmmmmm, whatever his name was, way back at the beginning of this thread that he should head for the hills. 

I didn't read the 15 pages of responses, so I'm just wondering if he took my well thought out and polite response to heart and ran away?

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:35:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterChip2008

I am growing deeply concerned about the sub's and slave's that do not ever reply/respond to message's sent to them by Masters/Mistreess's


Dom/Dommes do the same.  Sometimes I don't respond because I have no interest and I feel it is just as wrong to lead a person on.  However, I try to respond to all positive comments.

I get a lot of messages from people outside the country as well.  I can say that I have been fortunate to meet someone from the UK who visited the US and we spent a few wonderful days together.  Looking forward to his next visit or mine to the UK.

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:40:15 PM   
OneSickFck


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Status: offline 		Here's an analogous situation:

I walk up to a woman in a bar and proposition her with "Hey Gorgeous, wanna fuck?".  She slaps me in the face and walks away.

Q: Was she IMPLYING she wasn't interested, or SAYING very clearly she wasn't interested?

Technically she SAID nothing, but common sense says otherwise!

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:41:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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ORIGINAL: HandSolo

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If you are the only person demanding responses as a show of common courtesy, it is not because you are a pioneer in online etiquette, it simply means you have forgotten the "when in Rome " adage.


I agree to the majority of what you said but I still see it as rude if you don't reply unless for any of the reasons I have stated.. I know how it all works though..No one is obligated to do anything in life but die. lol.



Here's the sticky wicket: in order to be rude, one must transgress a societal norm. Not holding a door for a woman used to be rude, now, not so much. Slamming the door shut: still rude.

There is no societal norm mandating a response to an email/message. Full stop. You can be offended or disappointed by a lack of response, but you can not project rudeness onto the non-respondent. Your deeming a non-respondent rude is a character judgment based on an invalid standard, no less so than 17th century Europeans declaring indigenous cultures immoral for not following a familiar dress code, or worshiping the correct deity.

You are free to be offended for spurious reasons, but it does not make the behavior you find offensive rude.


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:43:26 PM   
Jeffff


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ORIGINAL: OneSickFck

Here's an analogous situation:

I walk up to a woman in a bar and proposition her with "Hey Gorgeous, wanna fuck?".  She slaps me in the face and walks away.

Q: Was she IMPLYING she wasn't interested, or SAYING very clearly she wasn't intererested?

Technically she SAID nothing, but common sense says otherwise!



But............if she says YES....................

Jeff

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:45:29 PM   
Icarys


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ORIGINAL: HandSolo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

ORIGINAL: HandSolo

[clipped a bunch of stuff]
If you are the only person demanding responses as a show of common courtesy, it is not because you are a pioneer in online etiquette, it simply means you have forgotten the "when in Rome " adage.


I agree to the majority of what you said but I still see it as rude if you don't reply unless for any of the reasons I have stated.. I know how it all works though..No one is obligated to do anything in life but die. lol.



Here's the sticky wicket: in order to be rude, one must transgress a societal norm. Not holding a door for a woman used to be rude, now, not so much. Slamming the door shut: still rude.

There is no societal norm mandating a response to an email/message. Full stop. You can be offended or disappointed by a lack of response, but you can not project rudeness onto the non-respondent. Your deeming a non-respondent rude is a character judgment based on an invalid standard, no less so than 17th century Europeans declaring indigenous cultures immoral for not following a familiar dress code, or worshiping the correct deity.

You are free to be offended for spurious reasons, but it does not make the behavior you find offensive rude.


I"ve stated my beliefs..no one is obligated to follow those. For the record..i still open the door for women. I think it's sad to let those type of things go to the wayside.




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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:51:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the sub/slave makes it clear they are owned or do not want someone my age or are out of the country, I normally do not write them.  On occassion I have written, when they just found their One, to say "Congratulations to both of you." and that is it.  If I write anyone, I try to keep it polite and show them respect as a person because that is what they are.  In that case, I do not care what you are, good manners say you should respond, even if with a "Sorry, I am not interested in you."  In that case, I do not reply to them.  I might be the exception rather than the rule but then again, I probably was raised and trained differently from most here. 

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:54:39 PM   
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good manners say you should respond, even if with a "Sorry, I am not interested in you."


Yeah, and let's review the responses that are possible when submissives take your advice:

You aren't real
Please meet me for coffee
Let's yahoo, you don't know what you are missing
You are a bitch
Come on, talk to me, here's my phone number:  xxx xxx xxxx
A true sub would know her place, you are fake



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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:56:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had to go and check out your profile because oh my goodness, you are so logical.  :)  I almost swooned at the comment of projected rudeness.
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HandSolo

There is no societal norm mandating a response to an email/message. Full stop. You can be offended or disappointed by a lack of response, but you can not project rudeness onto the non-respondent.
You are free to be offended for spurious reasons, but it does not make the behavior you find offensive rude.


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:57:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I replied politely to a guy not too long ago, and let him know that I wasn't interested. The result was a barrage of demands to get on yahoo with him and lots of whining/ name calling when I said no. 

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:57:58 PM   
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I almost swooned at the comment of projected rudeness.


He's missing with boat with the admittance of no available penis pics.    


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 5:59:07 PM   
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The result was a barrage of demands to get on yahoo with him and lots of whining/ name calling when I said no.


I think that many men have no clue regarding what it is like to be a woman on an internet dating site.


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:01:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

The result was a barrage of demands to get on yahoo with him and lots of whining/ name calling when I said no.


I think that many men have no clue regarding what it is like to be a woman on an internet dating site.




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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:01:49 PM   
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I think that many men have no clue regarding what it is like to be a woman on an internet dating site.

My suggestion is the same as always.... that they make a female sub profile with a pic and take a look at what hits our mailboxes on a daily basis. I showed some of my mail to a D friend from here who was visiting and his response was "Holy Shit!!!"


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:04:14 PM   
Icarys


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Status: offline 		To Hand: There is no societal norm mandating a response to an email/message.

I'll put this inline so you can see it better...Emails as you know are just another form of communication and their are plenty of set ways in society on how a "proper" way to respond is..Kind of like someone talking to you in person and asking a question yet you do not respond? Why is it different if a stranger on a buss or at the mall in line asks that question versus someone online? Isn't it still rude to not answer them? I guess you could ignore someone in a convenience store line but I most likely wouldn't if they were being polite.

I'm off to watch a movie..I'll read up later.


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:09:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

good manners say you should respond, even if with a "Sorry, I am not interested in you."


Yeah, and let's review the responses that are possible when submissives take your advice:

You aren't real
Please meet me for coffee
Let's yahoo, you don't know what you are missing
You are a bitch
Come on, talk to me, here's my phone number:  xxx xxx xxxx
A true sub would know her place, you are fake



also add (and these are actual responses i've received when politely responding no not interested):
you're so fat that i wasn't really interested in you
BDSM is for the beautiful people only and you're so f-ing ugly
please tell me why ....i feel we're so compatible and right ...give me a reason why ...i love you so much....
I AM DOM DO AS I SAY
why?


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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:11:39 PM   
OneSickFck


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

To Hand: There is no societal norm mandating a response to an email/message.

I'll put this inline so you can see it better...Emails as you know are just another form of communication and their are plenty of set ways in society on how a "proper" way to respond is..Kind of like someone talking to you in person and asking a question yet you do not respond? Why is it different if a stranger on a buss or at the mall in line asks that question versus someone online? Isn't it still rude to not answer them? I guess you could ignore someone in a convenience store line but I most likely wouldn't if they were being polite.

I'm off to watch a movie..I'll read up later.



I would agree if the stranger is asking you "What time is it?" or "How do I get to Market Street from here?".   But not if the stranger is asking "Will you be my slave and grovel at my feet?" or even "Will you go out with me?".

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:15:18 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

good manners say you should respond, even if with a "Sorry, I am not interested in you."


Yeah, and let's review the responses that are possible when submissives take your advice:

You aren't real
Please meet me for coffee
Let's yahoo, you don't know what you are missing
You are a bitch
Come on, talk to me, here's my phone number:  xxx xxx xxxx
A true sub would know her place, you are fake



also add (and these are actual responses i've received when politely responding no not interested):
you're so fat that i wasn't really interested in you
BDSM is for the beautiful people only and you're so f-ing ugly
please tell me why ....i feel we're so compatible and right ...give me a reason why ...i love you so much....
I AM DOM DO AS I SAY
why?



Wow, we've been contacted by the same people!!  So, I'm sorry, but I do not feel compelled to respond to every inappropriate one-liner from men (and women) who have not even taken a few minutes to read my profile.  Those who offer me compliments always get a "thank you", those who are looking for local resources get links and references, but "UR so beautiful I must submit" just gets deleted.

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RE: WHY NO POLITE RESPONSES??? - 10/12/2008 6:19:30 PM   
Celene


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Status: offline 		Are you telling me that submissive women get as many hits as dominant ones?

OMG  and here I kept hearing it was just that we (oops! We) were so rare and submissive men so plentiful.
So, it's you telling all these men to put female profiles up, eh? While it is enlightening for them, what if they decide they like it?

Oh, wait! This could be an answer to the ratio of Dommes to male subs.... more cross dressing dom(me)s.

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[/quote]

Wow, we've been contacted by the same people!!  So, I'm sorry, but I do not feel compelled to respond to every inappropriate one-liner from men (and women) who have not even taken a few minutes to read my profile.  Those who offer me compliments always get a "thank you", those who are looking for local resources get links and references, but "UR so beautiful I must submit" just gets deleted.
[/quote]

I don't delete them .... but I too like to see signs that they read and appreciated my profile.
I enjoy the comic humor and like to have a copy when they head back around saying the same thing yet again.
Cut and paste in cyberspace is not the way to a woman's heart.

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