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Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 3:08:10 PM   
Mercnbeth


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why do they need so much money?


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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 3:33:26 PM   
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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 3:44:38 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Why do people give it?



thank you, that's another excellent question...indeed, why do they?

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 3:54:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

According to the Federal Election Commission, $1,514,400,000 has been contributed/donated collectively to Republicrats.
Federal Election Commission

why do they need so much money?



So they can buy enough commercials to lie endlessly about each other.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 4:02:47 PM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

According to the Federal Election Commission, $1,514,400,000 has been contributed/donated collectively to Republicrats.
Federal Election Commission

why do they need so much money?



So they can buy enough commercials to lie endlessly about each other.


thank you.  if indeed that is their objective, that type of reasoning strikes this slave as petty, juvenile and an incredibly irresponsible waste.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 4:14:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		There goes the left again....If they limited the amount that each candidate could spend Obama would loose.  He is trying his best to buy this election.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 4:21:59 PM   
Mercnbeth


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~ Point of Order ~
 
Please note - this is beth's thread. (note the color)
 
Please be gentle, by my limited memory I think it's her first time in these shark infested waters.
 
Personally I think that people should be allowed to give as much as they'd like. It helps the economy, especially in the business world of advertising, and, unless you work for a union - no one is holding a gun to your head to do so.
 
They give it for the same reason people give to the church, they have faith that they'll get something in return. In some cases, like PAC contributions, its more agnostic and pragmatic - they document their expectations in writing.
 
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So they can buy enough commercials to lie endlessly about each other.
Maybe its a conspiracy funded by TIVO.
 
In times like these TIVO is your friend!


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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 4:31:43 PM   
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why do they need so much money?





Air time, train, plane & bus tickets, marketing, advertising, staff salary's, renting space to hold rally's ($150,000 for new clothes!) etc. and it all adds up. 

Let's put it this way. I didn't spend a single dime so my odds of getting elected are not very good because no one knows who I am. You should still feel free to write my name in though!

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 5:17:05 PM   
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There goes the left again....If they limited the amount that each candidate could spend Obama would loose.  He is trying his best to buy this election.


And I'm sure you were saying the same thing about Bush and the RNC in '00 and '04 when they raised record amounts of money, right?

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 5:24:41 PM   
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~ Point of Order ~
 
Please note - this is beth's thread. (note the color)
 


Sorry for the interruption, but just FYI, all---

Statistically, about ten percent of us are color blind, so no, we don't notice the color--nor do we notice links buried in sentences.

Just saying. Back to the topic.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 5:26:25 PM   
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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 5:38:41 PM   
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McCain is spending our taxpayer dollars.

Obama isn`t.

So now we have people complain when a candidate inspires millions to donate millions?

Sounds a little sour grapy...



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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 5:42:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Steponme73

There goes the left again....If they limited the amount that each candidate could spend Obama would loose.  He is trying his best to buy this election.


For all that some democrats would like for Obama to be considered a "centrist" - and he's certainly not AS "right" as McCain - he's still pretty far right, and pretty authoritarian.  Not much different than McCain, if you take a look at the link Aernin posted earlier.  He's sure as fuck not in the center, nor even Left Leaning, unless a person ONLY looks at him as a Contrast to McCain.  Looking beyond that Contrast - they're BOTH bad, they're BOTH trying to buy this election, they've BOTH been incredibly irresponcible in the area of campaign spending for ads and such....

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 6:00:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Part of it..$150,000 recently went to outfit Sarah Palin and her family in clothing benefiting the Hopeful Second Chief Executive To Be and the second Family. The rest has paid for Convention Space's, Rally Halls and sites as well as insurance for them,  TV Ads, Transportation of the McCain/Palin machine, hotel rooms, food, wining and dining potential contributors and I suspect a truck load of aspirin and antacid. Part of it MAY  go to challenging the election results if they lose, that all depends on them losing and by how much if they do. Bush's challenges in 2000 to the vote results was not cheap.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 6:24:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		...and $18,000 a week, every week since the convention, for new clothing.

(And the Republicans bitched about John Edwards spending $400 for a haircut.)

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 8:38:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Steponme73

There goes the left again....If they limited the amount that each candidate could spend Obama would loose.  He is trying his best to buy this election.


thank you.  actually this post isn't about left/right.  it is about both, together, hence the reference "Republicrats", because this slave fails to see any fundamental difference between the two.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 8:41:58 PM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


why do they need so much money?





Air time, train, plane & bus tickets, marketing, advertising, staff salary's, renting space to hold rally's ($150,000 for new clothes!) etc. and it all adds up. 

Let's put it this way. I didn't spend a single dime so my odds of getting elected are not very good because no one knows who I am. You should still feel free to write my name in though!


thank you.  this slave believes it would be in the best interest of the good citizens of this country for the government to provide equal access to ALL political parties with a "horse in the race" by way of televised debates, printed statements, etc. on a limited basis.
 
do we really need to see the the Republicrats pasted all over the media every single day to understand what they alledge to stand for any better than we did when they started out of the gate?

edited to add:
p.s.  this slave would vote for you before voting for either of the Republicrat frontrunners!!!

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 8:45:54 PM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

Part of it..$150,000 recently went to outfit Sarah Palin and her family in clothing benefiting the Hopeful Second Chief Executive To Be and the second Family. The rest has paid for Convention Space's, Rally Halls and sites as well as insurance for them,  TV Ads, Transportation of the McCain/Palin machine, hotel rooms, food, wining and dining potential contributors and I suspect a truck load of aspirin and antacid. Part of it MAY  go to challenging the election results if they lose, that all depends on them losing and by how much if they do. Bush's challenges in 2000 to the vote results was not cheap.

poenkitten



thank you.  the ridiculous amounts of money that are spent and passed off as being "just a part of the way it is" doesn't speak to the "change" that either of the Republicrat candidates claim to espouse.

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 8:50:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

thank you.  this slave believes it would be in the best interest of the good citizens of this country for the government to provide equal access to ALL political parties with a "horse in the race" by way of televised debates, printed statements, etc. on a limited basis.

 
That's not the government, beth.. that's the media. The big boys can't make a buck on someone that no one is going to tune in to see so they can't get sponsors to pony up the $ to line their pockets. The 'government' has nothing to do with reality television.

 
quote:

do we really need to see the the Republicrats pasted all over the media every single day to understand what they alledge to stand for any better than we did when they started out of the gate?


Yeah, we probably do, actually. It's a combination of ADD, politicians refining their agendas as time goes by, out of sight-out of mind and the fact that bright shiney's distract people from..

Ooo.. there's one now! ::skips off to chase the pretty butterfly::

::thinks she just lost beth's vote::

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RE: Billion Dollar Election - 10/22/2008 8:58:57 PM   
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$400,000+ on food for the campaign (lots of cavier!)

$21million on polls!

ohmygawd!!!!



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