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RE: Rich cheat on their taxes more, study shows - 10/23/2008 7:20:46 PM

MissSCD

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Of course the rich cheat on taxes and a lot of other things. The former middle class has nothing to cheat with.

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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

According to a Forbes article here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27328293/ I have included only a snippet..the article itself is fascinating.

"In all, because of their higher noncompliance rates, those with true incomes of $200,000 or more received 25 percent of all income, but accounted for 40 percent of net under reported income and 42 percent of under reported tax in 2001, the new analysis finds.

The study was written by Joel Slemrod, an economics professor and director of the Office of Tax Policy Research at the University of Michigan's business school and IRS economist Andrew Johns. It has not been officially endorsed or even released by the IRS and seems sure to add fuel to the election season debate over whether those earning $250,000 or more should pay higher tax rates, as Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, has proposed."
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RE: Rich cheat on their taxes more, study shows - 10/23/2008 8:06:25 PM

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First of all...my rental was not HUD housing. We took no money from the state. Some of you people should really get off your fucking high horse (kittin). We actually let a Vietnam vet live there for about ten months rent free because it was the right thing to do. What have you done lately to help? The point of my post was to show that it's not only the rich cheating. You can all believe in the perfect Utopia, but it isn't a reality. There's a whole infrastructure within this society that takes what it can and they come from all economic levels. The amount of low income families far exceed the amount of rich. Their scams add up too and they're putting far less back into the economy. Have a nice day. I'm done with the ridiculous attitudes of righteousness in this corner of collarchat.

I can tell you how it came across to me, your other quote. My perception was you were drudging up the ole Welfare Queen sterotype coined by one Ronald Regan. Guess what, that was a myth that was the master mind of Lee Atwater (you know, Karl Rove's mentor) because he actually told Regan that in the south it wasn't acceptable (as it was at one time) to pit white people against black people by using the n-word. Thus this mythical welfare queen which everyone knew was code for people of color and meant to get white middle class people all up in a tizzy. And I got to say too, why does the governement regulate poor people's relationships (you mentioned that people lived together without being married)? The amount of scrutiny that poor people are put under in order to obtain benefits is something that I would never put up with. It's disgraceful but we think that because they are receiving benefits they should be held to some unreasonable standards of invasion of privacy. We have demonized poor people in our country to that extent, it's shameful.

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RE: Rich cheat on their taxes more, study shows - 10/27/2008 5:42:23 PM

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Ok...I fell over, with all of McCains pouncing on Obama's Spred the Wealth as socialism.. here is a quote from McCain on Hardball in 2000. The rest of the Article is pretty interesting as well.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27397938/?ocid=MSNToolbar100
But the federal income tax is (downwardly) redistributive as a matter of principle: however slightly, it softens the inequalities that are inevitable in a market economy, and it reflects the belief that the wealthy have a proportionately greater stake in the material aspects of the social order and, therefore, should give that order proportionately more material support. McCain himself probably shares this belief, and there was a time when he was willing to say so. During the 2000 campaign, on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” a young woman asked him why her father, a doctor, should be “penalized” by being “in a huge tax bracket.” McCain replied that “wealthy people can afford more” and that “the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do.” The exchange continued: Young woman: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . .
McCain: Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.

For her part, Sarah Palin, who has lately taken to calling Obama “Barack the Wealth Spreader,” seems to be something of a suspect character herself. She is, at the very least, a fellow-traveller of what might be called socialism with an Alaskan face. The state that she governs has no income or sales tax. Instead, it imposes huge levies on the oil companies that lease its oil fields. The proceeds finance the government’s activities and enable it to issue a four-figure annual check to every man, woman, and child in the state. One of the reasons Palin has been a popular governor is that she added an extra twelve hundred dollars to this year’s check, bringing the per-person total to $3,269. A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that “we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” Perhaps there is some meaningful distinction between spreading the wealth and sharing it (“collectively,” no less), but finding it would require the analytic skills of Karl the Marxist.
From the New Yorker Magazine
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