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unbroken33 -> For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:20:39 AM)

I've been lurking for quite a while, and got to watch quite a few people specifically attacked and their threads derailed.  I've also gotten to watch quite a few people run out of here.  Some attacks were so brutal, it was almost as if the victims had somehow wronged the attackers.  Having been the victim myself a couple times, I knew that assumption was untrue, so I'm baffled.  Even more baffling, this sort of behavior isn't nearly as prevalent in other forums. 

I know not everyone is like that--I have actually met some folks from here, and all of them were wonderful people.  Most actually thought the same of me--if you were wondering why I haven't let cm, that's why.  So, for the longest time I began cataloging those who initiate the type of behavior to see if they do the same in all the other forums they're on.  It's quite easy to do, really.  But again, I was stumped as there's no real pattern there.  One thing I did notice is that some seemed to run in cliques, but only on here.  That may indicate a couple ring leaders here, which is why that kind of behavior is not as prevalent other places. 

It seems like an easy fix, really...  But I doubt it's that simple once a culture is embedded.  If you take out the ring leaders, the followers go, then the followers friends, the whole board splits.  It's a scary thing, but at this point the people who have been run out over the course of the past couple years probably outnumber those who did the attacking.

So, I give up.  Why do you do it? 
Is this just an outlet for negative emotions?
Do you actually know or think you personally know some of the folks you openly attack? 
Do you genuinely dislike or feel hatred toward those you attack, especially those you don't personally know? 
Well, everything after 'why do you do it' is just trying to make sense of it, so I turn it over the bullies and predators [8|] 




windchymes -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:29:45 AM)

Do you have any specific examples?  What constitutes attacking and bullying for one person might just be stating facts and reality for another.  Or, if someone comes in with a big "poor me, I'm a victim of my own stupidity" story, and others don't flock to their side with sympathy, but rather, say things along the lines of "don't do that anymore", that might be construed at attacking and bullying by some, but just refusing to enable by others.

I'll put a smiley face here so you'll know I"m friendly [:)]




zakkan -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:30:25 AM)

I know some people don't care if their posts hurt others. They even state the poster asked for it. They think they are doing good by ripping into others.
[sm=excuseme.gif]




JewAndCelt -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:30:59 AM)

quote:

So, I give up. Why do you do it?
Is this just an outlet for negative emotions?
Do you actually know or think you personally know some of the folks you openly attack?
Do you genuinely dislike or feel hatred toward those you attack, especially those you don't personally know?


Very unsettling, isn't it?

Chalk it up to folk who have too much time on their hands and too little social skill.




KatyLied -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:33:52 AM)

Worse than the attackers are the members who come to forums expecting group hugs and some sort of weird kumbaya dynamic.  It's best to remember that this a playground and sometimes the sandbox is unpleasant.  Big girl/boy pants can help in this situation.  Another helpful thing is to ignore people.  But that cuts down on the whining, poor me stuff.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:34:51 AM)

why do i have "We Are The World" popping into my head after reading this?

i'm sorry that you've been attacked on here ...so have i as well as many others. i'll admit that i have attacked back.

most of us if not all of us are very passionate about our dynamics and relationships. it's best to grow a thick skin or snag a flame-resistant suit from the CM store when posting here. if you don't like the heat of the fire within a certain thread, it's best to stay out.

as far as cliques go here ...yep there are cliques here and? are you upset that none of the "popular" people invited into their inner circle? it seems that way to me. so what if some have formed solid friendships in this place - nothing wrong with that.  i don't care if i'm not part of a clique - i follow my own beat making friends here and there as i post.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:40:47 AM)

What many of us dislike is the troll posters that come here to whine,"everyone here is a fake because they are not flocking to me" boo hoo.

When I first came here, I thought I was being attacked too. but I love a good fight and I dont take it personally. Some of my percieved biggest attackers became some of my biggest supporters and dearest friends. But really, what was said in a matter of fact, you asked for it way, was the truth. Many come here wanting you to agree with them. they dont really want the truth or helpful advice. I often try to remember that our "worse enemies" our are best teachers.




sirsholly -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:42:39 AM)

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lauren0221 -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:47:52 AM)

Forums are very much like real life - there will be people you like, and people you do not like very much. There are very smart people, and people who may be less so. It's kind of like people who complain about TV programs - channels can be changed, and there is also ultimately an off switch.

I think that it is better use of energy to find a place that is comfortable and fits, rather than trying to change the place.

And while I am definitely not a proponent of random cruelty, I have also found that people I used to dismiss as ridiculously harsh have grown on me, and tend to be telling the not always pleasant and what you want to hear truth.




yourMissTress -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:49:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Worse than the attackers are the members who come to forums expecting group hugs and some sort of weird kumbaya dynamic.  It's best to remember that this a playground and sometimes the sandbox is unpleasant.  Big girl/boy pants can help in this situation.  Another helpful thing is to ignore people.  But that cuts down on the whining, poor me stuff.


Seriously, if you all suddenly break out in a group Kumbaya, I will have to do something drastic.

I agree with Katy here, it's a public forum.  If you are not able to ignore the people who you don't agree with, maybe your focus should be on why you are unable to do that.  This is not kindergarten, and not everyone plays nice





lusciouslips19 -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:49:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

why do i have "We Are The World" popping into my head after reading this?

i'm sorry that you've been attacked on here ...so have i as well as many others. i'll admit that i have attacked back.

most of us if not all of us are very passionate about our dynamics and relationships. it's best to grow a thick skin or snag a flame-resistant suit from the CM store when posting here. if you don't like the heat of the fire within a certain thread, it's best to stay out.

as far as cliques go here ...yep there are cliques here and? are you upset that none of the "popular" people invited into their inner circle? it seems that way to me. so what if some have formed solid friendships in this place - nothing wrong with that.  i don't care if i'm not part of a clique - i follow my own beat making friends here and there as i post.


When I first posted to in response to samba, she took it the wrong way and attacked. Then someone else jumped in and made it worse. Boy was it a mess. But we hashed it out through forum and private CM and realized it was misinterpretation. The other person remained snarky for quite some time but I became friends with her too. Boy, those were the days. [8|] *sighs*

There are many of us here with thicker skin and we actually respect people who dont coddle us.

I am proud to know some of these no nonsense ladies like Katylied and Sambamanslilgirl and have an immense amount of respect for them even when I disagree with them. If everyone agreed it would be quite boring here.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:56:51 AM)

*hugs* for my neighbor up north.  yes those were the days (humming the theme to All In The Family). 

OP, even i have respect for those i don't agree with. it's the way the forum life goes - we argue, flame and fight ...then the next day we make up and move on with watchful Mod XI lurking unseen.




Rover -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:57:49 AM)

No offense, but this is a group of people that (often) beat their partners, engage in mock rape, humiliation and degredation, piss and crap on them... and we're supposed to coddle someone that is easily offended by what an anonymous stranger posts on a website?
 
BDSM isn't for the faint of heart.  Neither is life, for that matter.
 
John




zakkan -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 6:58:24 AM)

Yeah. Mod XI is like the zookeeper here [8D]




lusciouslips19 -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:01:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: zakkan

Yeah. Mod XI is like the zookeeper here [8D]



ooooh, oooh lets pick which animal we want to be! i wanna be a monkey!

oh wait if everyone answers then it will be a derail. nevermind




Riggor -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:08:53 AM)

Can I be Godzilla? (whoop whoop whoop Derail alarm sounds)




justgemmie -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:25:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

quote:

ORIGINAL: zakkan

Yeah. Mod XI is like the zookeeper here [8D] 


ooooh, oooh lets pick which animal we want to be! i wanna be a monkey!

oh wait if everyone answers then it will be a derail. nevermind


[sm=alarm.gif]  Derail

i wanna be a giraffe - 17 inch tongue yanno [;)]

gemmie




NuevaVida -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:26:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

(humming the theme to All In The Family). 




Oh GREAT I'm going to be singing this ALL DAY now, thank you very much!! [8D]

To the OP, I like some posting styles and not others. It's best to let the stuff you don't like roll off.

Similar to what lushy said, there have been a few I used to bicker with on the boards and we talked it out in email and became friends. I've always tried to do that - to send a mail asking "what's up?" on the other side, or to extend an olive branch. I don't like being in conflict with people and I tend to think there are reasons behind when it happens that are not personal. Not that there have been a lot of folks I've conflicted with, but to those I have, I've tried to reach out. Most take the olive branch, because the truth is, they don't like the ugly feelings, either, and it's usually due to a misunderstanding or incorrect assumptions anyway. Not everyone takes the olive branch but it's extended as an option, not as a requirement.

Admittedly, it does bug me to see some of the harshness that goes on, and I've commented on that before. But I stopped letting it affect me as it used to, because it has nothing to do with me.




CreativeDominant -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:27:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: unbroken33

I've been lurking for quite a while, and got to watch quite a few people specifically attacked and their threads derailed.  I've also gotten to watch quite a few people run out of here.  Some attacks were so brutal, it was almost as if the victims had somehow wronged the attackers.  Having been the victim myself a couple times, I knew that assumption was untrue, so I'm baffled.  Even more baffling, this sort of behavior isn't nearly as prevalent in other forums. 

I know not everyone is like that--I have actually met some folks from here, and all of them were wonderful people.  Most actually thought the same of me--if you were wondering why I haven't let cm, that's why.  So, for the longest time I began cataloging those who initiate the type of behavior to see if they do the same in all the other forums they're on.  It's quite easy to do, really.  But again, I was stumped as there's no real pattern there.  One thing I did notice is that some seemed to run in cliques, but only on here.  That may indicate a couple ring leaders here, which is why that kind of behavior is not as prevalent other places. 

It seems like an easy fix, really...  But I doubt it's that simple once a culture is embedded.  If you take out the ring leaders, the followers go, then the followers friends, the whole board splits.  It's a scary thing, but at this point the people who have been run out over the course of the past couple years probably outnumber those who did the attacking.

So, I give up.  Why do you do it? 
Is this just an outlet for negative emotions?
Do you actually know or think you personally know some of the folks you openly attack? 
Do you genuinely dislike or feel hatred toward those you attack, especially those you don't personally know? 
Well, everything after 'why do you do it' is just trying to make sense of it, so I turn it over the bullies and predators [8|] 


So you've been offended?  Tough...life IS offensive.  The post reminds me a bit of a memo that went out from a principal of an elementary school in Greeley instructing parents what they SHOULD think about when they pick out a costume for their um for Halloween...the first instruction was for the parent to consider whether or not the costume might offend some person or group due to racial identity (do you know the original Native Americans did not wear leather or war paint?), culture (for some people, the fact that they have a heritage of being wanderers might make a hobo costume insulting), gender (boys should not dress as girls or vice-versa if the intention is to appear funny), personal appearance (too many "princess" costumes play up the idea of only white girls being beautiful), mental status (the Hannibal Lecter costume shows insensitivity to the issue of mental illness). What a crock...and if I think that is a crock for kids, imagine what I think of treating adults who are coming to a forum that emphasizes and celebrates what most people in society consider to be...whether we like it or not and no matter how that varies for us...the "edge" of sexuality and perverse kinkiness and expecting to be treated with kid gloves.

As Rover noted, these are people who have found it within themselves to humiliate, beat, rape their partners and despite those of us here who prefer to have love involved, there are those that don't in their D/s dynamic.  The fact that those who do not love their partners can do those same things...torture and use their partners...proves that those things do not always come from a place of love and Kumbaya but rather from a darker place within.  Should it be surprising then that, in a "culture" that allows for a wider variance of sexual/physical/intimate/emotional expression, there are going to come about instances where someone disagrees with another?

Yes, I have seen the attacks become personal.  That is wrong.  I have also seen people take exception and cry "bully" or "personal" attack when in reality, when you looked at the posts objectively, what was being attacked was a particular mindset or behavior.  Telling someone that they are acting like an idiot is not the same as telling someone that they ARE an idiot.  Telling someone that they are being hypocritical is not the same thing as telling someone that they are two-faced.  Holding up a mirror of past posts to someone to show what their beliefs have wrought is making them face the consequences of their actions rather than once again allowing them to come in and whine about how bad they have it. 

If you want group hugs, go to therapy.  If you do not wish to be attacked, be attentive as to whether or not you have postured.  And finally, be aware that with this many people on the boards, you are NOT going to find 100 percent sympathy, agreement OR disagreement.




SimplyMichael -> RE: For those who attack or bully on here (10/24/2008 7:33:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: unbroken33

I've been lurking for quite a while, and got to watch quite a few people specifically attacked and their threads derailed.  I've also gotten to watch quite a few people run out of here.  Some attacks were so brutal, 


If words on a screen are "brutal" to someone, they aren't ready to do BDSM in my opinion.  And men who cheat on their wives deserve little respect and "staying for the kids" is a horrible thing to do.  Great, the kids get to learn their relationship skills from two people who don't really have one.




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