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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:36:38 PM

slvemike4u

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really

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

I know this is off topic, but people drive me crazy when they refer to the Senate and Congress. The Senate is 1/2 of Congress. Just in case I am totally unclear, the US Congress is made up of the House of Representatives and the US Senate.
Okay, now back to your regular scheduled bickering.

Hey IK I knew that......really,I so know that.

< Message edited by slvemike4u -- 10/30/2008 6:39:37 PM >

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:40:09 PM

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No problem. Its just one of those wierd little things that bug me. Like when people try to blame the fall of civilization on SUVs or when they want me to eat tofu instead of steak. You show me a tofu ranch so I can see how the fuckers are raised and I might eat some.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:40:28 PM

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I'm a gun owner and a concealed carry permit holder. I would hate to have to give up my guns. (And I'm putting that very lightly.) But if I have to, I will. In the grand scheme of things, I feel that would be the lesser of the evils considering the state this country is in now and who got us there. What's really a shame is that that's what we're faced with when it comes to whom to choose...the lesser of the evils. We don't vote for the one we like the most, we vote for the one we dislike the least.

The problem is of course only law abiding citizens such as yourself would even give up their guns. Never saw a criminal who really care what guns were banned. In fact if I was such a criminal anti-gun laws would be a good thing, would make my job a hell of a lot easier and safer.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:41:09 PM

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you asked how in the future Obama being POTUS would have any bearing on gun bans. then i made my stupid comment, but i never stated "just like in history" or "back in the day when" or "remember the time".........LOL

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:41:17 PM

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no matter what title they have....they spent the future of our children and our children's children.

soon they will decide how much is too much money for us to earn. then take our guns. keep us poor and looking to them for help.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:43:16 PM

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oh i love to dance, kind Sir.......

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:45:46 PM

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Giving up my weapons is something that I will never willingly do. Doesn't matter to me who the PotUS is, who is in Congrease, or how much pressure they apply to try and panic us all into giving up one of our rights. I have concealed carry, I shoot on a regular basis (though not as often as I wish I had time for), and I firmly believe that an Armed society is a Polite society.

When are people going to learn - the TOOL is not the problem. The person Wielding the tool, and their mental state, is the problem.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:47:33 PM

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Don't you find it interesting that the same people who are against setting a minimum wage are in favor or not having an upper limit on how much one can earn?
It is OK to pay a person a wage that they can starve to death slowly on but making more money than one could spend if a hundred lifetimes is considered a worthy goal.
Hatred of welfare for the poor is compensated for by love of welfare for the rich.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:51:58 PM

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I firmly believe that an Armed society is a Polite society.

I agree but I also notice that there are a particular group of armed citizens who are typically not polite.

H.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:56:24 PM

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Don't you find it interesting that the same people who are against setting a minimum wage are in favor or not having an upper limit on how much one can earn?
It is OK to pay a person a wage that they can starve to death slowly on but making more money than one could spend if a hundred lifetimes is considered a worthy goal.
Hatred of welfare for the poor is compensated for by love of welfare for the rich.

H.

Do you ever consider that the more people are payed the more products cost? High mininum wages help raise inflation and reduce the number of jobs out there, and actually believe it or not lowers the actually value of the dollar and therefore the wages of most everyone.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 6:58:35 PM

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I firmly believe that an Armed society is a Polite society.

I agree but I also notice that there are a particular group of armed citizens who are typically not polite.

H.

True - cops here in Oklahohum tend to be some of the least polite folks that I've met. Yet even the folks who squall the loudest about removing any weapons from the hands of citizenry don't seem to notice that it's Not the Citizens that they generally have to be afraid of! (Personally, I keep a sign posted in my home to warn folks - it reads "Caution - Crazy Woman With Shotgun".)

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:02:08 PM

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Hunter
this thread is about the second amendment not minimum wage. but i will say raising the minimum wage a couple of dollars is not going to make any of those chickens rich. that is more chicken feed to satisfy the masses for a little while.

Rhi
if they want to take my gun they will have to pry it out of my cold dead hands! i agree with you! also, times are tough and crime is on the increase. i want to the right and the fire power to defend and protect myself!

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:06:40 PM

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Do you ever consider that the more people are payed the more products cost? High mininum wages help raise inflation and reduce the number of jobs out there, and actually believe it or not lowers the actually value of the dollar and therefore the wages of most everyone.

I have read less informed posts but not in this lifetime.
If you were to do a little research you would find that wages paid to labor account for a single digit percentage of the cost of goods produced.
You speak of "high minimum wages" leading to reduced jobs and increased inflation.....puleeezzzz.
The federal minimum wage is a tad over 5 bux an hour. That is about ten thousand dollars a year.
Would you be so kind as to work out a budget for a single person making that kind of money.
Are you suggesting that multimillion dollar salaries for management do not have more of an inflationary pressure than a .25 cent per hour increase for a broom pusher?

H.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:09:37 PM

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what kind shotgun?

H.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:13:52 PM

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i hope 12guage!

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:14:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight
You show me a tofu ranch so I can see how the fuckers are raised and I might eat some.

Getting in to see how tofu is made is not a difficult chore.
Getting inside a feedlot or slaughter house is next to impossible.
Grass fed beef makes up a single digit percentage of the beef on the market in this country.

H.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:15:57 PM

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i hope 12guage!

That would be size not kind.

H.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:17:53 PM

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I love my .22 rifle and my Glock 34 9mm and I defy any official to take them away. On the other hand, it is my firm belief that no non-military or police person should have access to a fully sutomatic weapon such as an Uzi. That seems pretty simple but I know the gun nuts can't accept any sort of a limit or restriction. So should there be any limit on what types of guns a private citizen should be allowed to own? The infamous AK-47? M-16? Uzi? How about a Vuclan canon or a mini-gun? After all, they're just guns. Personally, I would like to mount a couple of LAWS rocket lauchers on the mommy van. They're just guns, and single-shot ones at that, not even semi-automatic. Yes, that takes the discussion to the extreme. My point is: at what level of firepower do you say Not for civilians? Your thoughts?

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:18:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

I have read less informed posts but not in this lifetime.

Just wonder - exactly how many different lifetimes have you lived?

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If you were to do a little research you would find that wages paid to labor account for a single digit percentage of the cost of goods produced.
You speak of "high minimum wages" leading to reduced jobs and increased inflation.....puleeezzzz.
The federal minimum wage is a tad over 5 bux an hour. That is about ten thousand dollars a year.
Would you be so kind as to work out a budget for a single person making that kind of money.
Are you suggesting that multimillion dollar salaries for management do not have more of an inflationary pressure than a .25 cent per hour increase for a broom pusher?

My argument if you are a person who just a few years ago was making say twice or three times the mininum wage, and the mininum wage is increased you are suddenly making a lot less.

Prices do also go up. Ever notice that the .99 cent menus at fast food joints are getting smaller or smaller? Or the size of the portions are. Biggie fry at Wendy's use to be .99 cents - now it's what 1.59? Think a small fry is now .99. Taco Bell use to have a .59 and a .79 cent menu.... Where did those go?
These increases are in part caused by increases in Mininum wages (think what do these places pay their employees) - And btw where is someone who makes mininum wage more likely to eat out at... YES the place that just hiked up their price to cover their wage increase.

The price increase do trickle in to other areas as well.... Like that grocery store that suddenly has to absorb the cost of their more expensive baggers and cashier that raises it's price.

Where do you think the extra money is coming from? It isn't coming from those CEO's you speak of. It isn't like on years that Mininum wages get raised that CEO incomes go down. If anything they also go up. All cost must come from some where. Any business is going to choose to take that extra cost and pass it on to their customers - no CEO is going to choose to take it out of his own pocket. That is business.

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RE: This election and the 2nd Amendment. - 10/30/2008 7:18:55 PM

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Rhi
if they want to take my gun they will have to pry it out of my cold dead hands! i agree with you! also, times are tough and crime is on the increase. i want to the right and the fire power to defend and protect myself!

But............ gun crime falls when law abiding citizens are banned from having firearms; our glorious leaders said so and have made it so!

That gun crime has increased exponentially in numbers and seriousness every year since should not be taken as anything but proof of that!

Keep your guns. Wish I still had mine.

s'funny, I can hold a gun for ten years and not shoot anyone nor even come close to doing so. Yet those now wandering round with sub machineguns shouldnt be trusted not to hurt someone if they had a daffodil in their hands.

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