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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I live near the border with Canada and it is not uncommon to see Ontario license plates in the parking lots of our doctor’s offices.  That pretty much tells me all I need to know about socialized medicine.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Seems to  me that the health care system in Canada and UK has most problems because there are too many bureaucrats and not enough front line staff. Saving their own asses and not knowing what the hell they are doing and not listening to the people who do make a difference. The systems need streamlined, the money directed to the nurses, doctors, technicians, support staff, not the bloody managers and their never ending assistants.
I worked in the NHS for 8 years and the Canadian system for three. Neither of them is perfect, people suffer and die, needlessly, however the US is damn scary regarding basic care and ongoing treatment unless you can pay for it.
Lucy

Hello Lucy, thank you for posting.
I love to hear stories from citizens that actually live in countries
with Nationalized Health Care.
I have such mixed emotions on the subject.
Are you happy with the standards and level of health care that is available to you?
Do you think your system is fair?
How are the senior citizens treated and those with chronic long term health conditions?
I have heard of people in Canada coming to the USA to get certain operations.
Please give us some more information, thank you!

Ask me on the other side some specifics and I can tell you things that happened to my patients, how the system works in 3rd world countries, not that you will ever live there, what I learned in England, and how the system affects both those who wish to pay private in a nationalized system and those unable to private pay. The bunk about long lines like at the DMV is just that...bunk, depending on which country you live in. 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Have you ever lived in a country that has national healthcare? It's pretty fucking fantastic - so much less expensive for everybody in the long run - but perhaps you enjoy paying out of the skin of your ass and relish the idea of being taxed on your healthcare plan [&:].

Yes I have and was even a healthcare professional within the system in 2 countries ~ one a third world and the other England.

Thanks - I was interested in the baby's reply, because of her anti-health for all cruisade on the forum boards. I'm curious as to whether she knows what she's talking about, specifically from a personal experience standpoint (something tells me she doesn't have a clue).

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Huh? Please make some sense.

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Clear as coffee n milk?

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

so much less expensive for everybody in the long run

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I'm generally libertarian minded on most things, but I think we should have some sort of National Healthcare plan too.  I know a lot of people that don't have any coverage, and they don't qualify for Medicaid.  If something happens, they're essentially fucked.  No one should have their credit and finances destroyed because they get sick. 

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ORIGINAL: came4U

What really gets me, is people with no health insurance that complain (online) and ask medical questions about themselves or their ums yet say they cannot even afford a basic health exam. 

Cut your net bill (if at 30 bucks per month you save yourself 360 bucks per year).  Internet cafes charge 2 dollars an hour. Would you rather Dom/sub search than be without health insurance? 

Besides here, employers ask for proof of health insurance within/after a three month period and if you cannot provide such information you MUST purchase it from their (big hoohah insurance company salesmanship meeting) recommended insurance broker or choose another on your own time.  If you do not prove health/accident insurance I suppose they fire ya. lol.

Health care coverage (govt. sponsored) is 100% here-Canada (not including private room), takes little waiting time *depending on city population/and comparative to other countries, if you are below a certain yearly income.  Obviously, if above income, you have purchased insurance. I've never had to use my provincial health care card for more than ID, yet they take you in to a hospital, even if unconcious, for emergency care (car accident etc).  Clinics take you also but charge you $50.00 (refundable only if you return to show that ID.

I cannot imagine being without health insurance.  If I were, I would avoid other frivolous activities (eating out, internet service, shoe shopping, even telephone if I had to).

If more people put aside money for a rainy day instead of complaining while they sit at Burger King that the napkins aren't softer......

would be paradise.

*before you complain and say some people work on a home computer for a living as an excuse, then obviously you should change professions if it isn't making enough money to even cover a scraped knee. Living beyond means is a common problem when people cannot distinguish between the necessities of life and nonsense purchases.  PRIORITIES.

This isn't the third world that most of us live in.  Think, act and react.  Get some friends together (REAL LIFE) and take some action in your own political system and start writing your Congressman/woman and get something done.  Sitting here complaining isn't going to get anything done.  The politicians in your area are not going to be sitting and watching CM for the 'man on the street's' viewpoints. lol.