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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 5:39:05 PM   
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Quite a world these people inhabit,one where only the armed and those in fear of same are polite.Sad actually.


Create straw man arguments much?

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 5:48:05 PM   
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If you compare apples to apples, the polite areas of the United States are the ones where a good percentage of the population is armed. NYC and DC? Rude as hell. Texas was pretty darn polite when I traveled it. So was Louisiana and Mississippi.


This is comparing apples to apples?

You think there might be one or two other reasons that, say, Biloxi, Mississippi is more polite than NYC?

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 5:50:34 PM   
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Quite a world these people inhabit,one where only the armed and those in fear of same are polite.Sad actually.


Create straw man arguments much?
I posted a comment based on some of the previous post's.....I see no argument there simply a comment.Care to explain where you see an argument?

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 6:27:28 PM   
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Quite a world these people inhabit,one where only the armed and those in fear of same are polite.Sad actually.

Not fear, mike, accountability.  When a man's words can cost him his life, he tends to choose those words with greater care.

The greatest blow to civility was rendering dueling illegal.


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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 6:32:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Would that explain the numerous instances of incivility on these fora,the inability to hunt each other down and exact "accountability".

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 6:34:30 PM   
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Would that explain the numerous instances of incivility on these fora,the inability to hunt each other down and exact "accountability".

No, but the inability to resolve matters of honor on a field of honor (without attracting the unwanted attentions of the constabulary) does explain many of them.


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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 6:34:51 PM   
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Would that explain the numerous instances of incivility on these fora,the inability to hunt each other down and exact "accountability".


How ironic that you are actually the one that said this, mike......

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 6:39:16 PM   
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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 7:40:10 PM   
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Ironic? Naga .how so ,I fail to take your meaning.


LOL! Mike, you're a pip!

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 7:51:46 PM   
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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 7:54:55 PM   
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I don't know anyone who thinks of Ireland as an "unarmed" society.  Of course it is full of guns.  And if the Republicans stil; had the men and the stomach for the fight, and if they hadn't just been irretrievably weakened by infiltration and the ceasefires, they'd just go back to their armourers and make their own weapons (the bombs that destroyed buildings at Canary Wharf, Broadgate in the City of London and the Arndale Centre in the middle of Manchester were home made, with great ingenuity.  Likewise the mortar which was used to attack Downing Street with astonishing accuracy).  The old boys who did the work in South Armagh "haven't gone away, you know".

On the other hand anyone who things MI5 (or MI6) are restricted in their operations to the UK, and so to Northern Ireland, should form a queue over here where I will sell them a used car and a jackalope ranch.


Ludwig, I meant "officially" you know, like for the "Tourist Business."
It'd be bad P.R. if it got out that "Mrs Callahan" who runs the B&B down the boreen had occaisional "guests" checking in at 0300 some mornings or "hardware" buryied out in the fields with the sheep.
Point is people don't like having their countries invaded.
They've been going at it for what, 800 years in Ireland now?
You'd figure that Bush or at least someone on his staff with an i.q. over 100 would have figured that out.
Or, we could just say that the U.S. Army and Marines are,...."world citizens like Iron here, just over for a visit and excercising their,..."world citizenship!"
I know a *little* bit about certain things in certain parts of Ire but there's a whole bunch that I don't know about.

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 8:34:52 PM   
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IMO, Obama's landslide was based more on disgust with the Bush administration than any buy-in to Democratic party planks.  That said, what does the GOP signify?

They're clearly the prolife party, and mention God more than the Dems.  They talk small government and practice big government, talk fiscal responsibility and blow up the deficit, make bizarre and costly foreign policy blunders...

The big problems for the GOP is the Dem-leaning tendencies of the young voters and Hispanics.  Two fast growing demographics,




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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 9:23:51 PM   
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All right, back on track...

IMO, Obama's landslide was based more on disgust with the Bush administration than any buy-in to Democratic party planks.  That said, what does the GOP signify?

They're clearly the prolife party, and mention God more than the Dems.  They talk small government and practice big government, talk fiscal responsibility and blow up the deficit, make bizarre and costly foreign policy blunders...

The big problems for the GOP is the Dem-leaning tendencies of the young voters and Hispanics.  Two fast growing demographics,



I once heard the Republican ethos described as thus...."They run on a platform of Government as bad and ineffective...when they win they go about proving the point"

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 9:33:26 PM   
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Should the republicans that supported Obama be punished in some way, by the Republican party, if they are involved in the Republican party?

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 9:44:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is a shame but it is how these things work,Lieberman will be spanked by the Dems...the Republicans will spank their own,a twisted reality when party loyalty trumps "Country First".But the sad fact is if you believe the other guys have better ideas or will take the country in a better direction.....then you need to be playing with the other team .

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 9:49:09 PM   
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Should the republicans that supported Obama be punished in some way, by the Republican party, if they are involved in the Republican party?



The neo-cons will want to.

The old-school republicans won`t.

We`ll see.

I heard that Lieberman and Reid are "meeting".

Lieberman`s fate lies in how important he is as an Independent caucusing with the dems.

If the Democrats get their magic 60,he`s gonna have a real red bottom.

If he`s needed,he`ll fare better.

He will be punished in some way for breaking his deal with Reid and campaigning for republicans.That loser was even campaigning for down-side republican Senators, outside of of his work for McCain.

Amazing how this guy went from the Democratic VP nominee, to leaving the party and campaigning for republicans.

WTF was he thinking?

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/8/2008 9:55:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lieberman has allready been told he is losing the Homeland security Committee ,he told Reid he will weigh his options.In other words he is deciding whether to take his medicine and accept a lesser committee,still caucusing with the Dems or try to figure out how warm and fuzzy the Republicans will be to him.Life can be chilly as an Independent with no friends.The man is an asshole.

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/11/2008 6:34:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		What bothers me most about Lieberman is that most of his views actually seem to be liberal, almost progressive, and yet he has allwoed his political future to hang solely on the issue of the Iraq war ... in which he picked the wrong side.

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/11/2008 10:10:49 AM   
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The English tried that "world citizen" crap by invading Ireland many moons ago


...i don't think world citizenship ever crossed the mind of Oliver Cromwell.......

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RE: Republicans for Obama - 11/11/2008 11:27:24 AM   
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If you compare apples to apples, the polite areas of the United States are the ones where a good percentage of the population is armed. NYC and DC? Rude as hell. Texas was pretty darn polite when I traveled it. So was Louisiana and Mississippi.


This is comparing apples to apples?

You think there might be one or two other reasons that, say, Biloxi, Mississippi is more polite than NYC?
Edited because I will not be able to change anyone's mind concerning NY...and it is a derailment to try.

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