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Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 5:35:39 AM

HisPrincess05

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For years I have denied myself the submissive side of me. On february of this year I gave myself to my Master for his complete and total control. I enjoy the machocist side of myself, however I need some guidance on how to endure the pain from different pieces of equipment when were are in sessions. We both agreed that I'm not allowed to have a safe word (he knows when I've taken my limit) however to other machocists can you please help me and give me some tips on enduring what my master dishes out?

I've just recently discovered that I do love the feel of being beaten, choked, tied and bond. I'm just curious on how to endure the most extreme sort of pain.

Princess

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 6:23:47 AM

aravain

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Um... you're going to need to be more specific.

What different types of equipment? Is it just floggers, or canes, non-traditional implements, or even sharps that he's using?

There's different aspects for each.

But I would tend to say: If you're truly masochistic you don't need help enduring the pain, you need to get used to it. It's a huge sensation overload, especially at first...

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 6:41:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: aravain

But I would tend to say: If you're truly masochistic you don't need help enduring the pain, you need to get used to it. It's a huge sensation overload, especially at first...

agreed

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 6:48:04 AM

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Learn to breathe. Breath is coming to be a huge part of how I experience pain and deal with it. What works a bit for me is exhaling forcefully at the moment of sensation. It works...for a time. The beauty of it is that I eventually loose it and end up being carried along by the pain. I think this is supposed to happen. We are not meant to manage it all. We are meant to loose it.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 7:18:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

Learn to breathe. Breath is coming to be a huge part of how I experience pain and deal with it. What works a bit for me is exhaling forcefully at the moment of sensation. It works...for a time. The beauty of it is that I eventually loose it and end up being carried along by the pain. I think this is supposed to happen. We are not meant to manage it all. We are meant to loose it.

agreed vol. 2!
that is something i've tried before also and it did help me slow down the overload and take more
which is always fun :) just have to remember to do it =p
but i think you're right that you're supposed to be carried along by it

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 7:26:58 AM

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Master went just a little further than usual the other night and i endured it and also i enjoyed it (ALOT). i just sorta ........ zoned i guess is the best word for it.
So my best advice to you is to think of pleasure and not the pain . But as a masochist i derive alot of pleasure from pain.
And yes concentrate on breathing.
i also find that if i thank Master for every stroke, i am concentrating on getting the words out each time and not pain.
Good luck and enjoy!

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 8:31:26 AM

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thank you all for your replies, this has been a learning experience for me. Master uses mostly his flogger and his bare hand, last night he used his paddle. Which he admits he is very heavy handed and has to watch out. We were away from each for about 5months so this has taken some getting use to. After i stopped twitching and moving it was more bearable. Ive only been in this lifestyle for 9months (5 of which master was away) so I'm training with master for the next couple of months until we both go back to GA in December. I'm love the pleasure that i get from the pain- i did not about the breatching techniques I will try those. You guys have been really helpful. If you have anymore tips or tricks please let me know. Until then...hugs

princess

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 8:42:44 AM

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I find that the greatest pleasure I get from pain is the day after. For me, it is like the whole world has been washed and polished to a high sheen - colors are brighter, and everything seems new and different. It is a great headspace...and sitting down is a delicious tweeking reminder of the event and for me creates a feeling of deep connection with my Lady...

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 8:46:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HisPrincess05

For years I have denied myself the submissive side of me. On february of this year I gave myself to my Master for his complete and total control. I enjoy the machocist side of myself, however I need some guidance on how to endure the pain from different pieces of equipment when were are in sessions. We both agreed that I'm not allowed to have a safe word (he knows when I've taken my limit) however to other machocists can you please help me and give me some tips on enduring what my master dishes out?

I've just recently discovered that I do love the feel of being beaten, choked, tied and bond. I'm just curious on how to endure the most extreme sort of pain.

Princess

For me, just seeing her smile, or hearing the pleasure in her voice, allows me to endure the pain she inflicts. She is my point of focus, I want nothing more than to know I have pleased her completely. The pain bonds the two of us as one.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 9:01:15 AM

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I have a mental 'place' I go to when the pain really starts to bite. I concentrate on stepping outside of the pain and becoming a kind of observer. I still feel it, but almost second-hand. I know I'm not making a lot of sense, but it's the only way I can think of to describe it.

But I love the pain - it makes me feel so good to know that he his enjoying giving me pain, and that he knows I'm enjoying it. I can get to a point where I know I can't take any more, and all he has to say is 'take it...for me'....and suddenly my threshold goes through the roof.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 9:11:18 AM

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I don't have any great tips, but it helps me a little bit if I don't try to supress the sounds that come out of me. Maybe it doesn't sound too pretty but I let the moans and guttural sounds escape my body at the moment of contact.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 9:12:20 AM

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I'm not a masochist but these are a few things I've found when dealing with pain. This may not apply to anyone else other than me, but may be worth a look-see.

Starting off: If the infliction of pain begins bearably, it gives me a period of time where my mind and body can say.. *Right, we are dealing with a bit of pain here, it's not TOO bad, it's not killing me even though I'd rather it wasn't happening* I can't usually breath in any kind of pattern at this stage, as my body is just saying 'Bloody hell , this hurts!'

Duration and rythmn: When the strokes come with a regular pattern for a period of time, I have time to prepare for each one and after some duration of the rythmn, I focus on the pain as it RECEDES and not the stroke itself. This is the time when my beathing falls in with the strokes and takes on a pattern and rythmn of it's own.

Breathing: After some time, my body adjusts to the level of pain being inflicted and I may only flinch if it becomes significantly more severe.

I can see the corrolation between this and the way I used to manage running long distances.

I haven't any advice on enduring extreme pain apart from this. Extreme pain, for me , is any pain that comes from *cold* and I haven't ever managed to find a way to find it remotely pleasureable which is why it's effective as a penalty/punishment.

agirl

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 11:31:18 AM

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Why can't you respond authentically? Yell, scream and curse if that's what you feel like. Does he want you to stand still with no reaction while he beats on you? Has he told you that he doesn't want any reactions? Why not ask him what he's looking for in this arena.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 11:36:49 AM

HisPrincess05

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Wow, you guys are fantastic. I agree with Otter the next day is beautiful. I guess my anticipation of the next stroke of his flogger or hand or paddle is my constant worry- but when binds my legs, arms, hands so I cant move its more bearable to me. I enjoy every minute of the pain its just when it gets to the point that my body is screaming "you crazy bitch" what the heck are you doing- I get kinda babyish. I am going to try all of this tips and techniques and I will let you know. Please keep the tips and techinques coming. Thanks again... smooches

princess

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 11:59:39 AM

HisPrincess05

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its not that I dont let my master know by my emotions or actions- its just that the mental aspect for me... is why I ask the question. thanks for you reply.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 12:23:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: aravain

But I would tend to say: If you're truly masochistic you don't need help enduring the pain, you need to get used to it. It's a huge sensation overload, especially at first...

I would not agree

leaving alone the notion of being "truly masochistic" for the moment

pain is pain is pain ... whether you get a sexual thrill from it or not ... its pain.
Certain things can be done to extend your tolerance to the pain ... breathing techniques, visualisation strategies ... even learning which body positions are best for you can all increase the period of pain endurance your body can offer. For me the key factors are my mental preparation - recently I played to a level which is usually not problematic but because I wasn't prepared psychologically I really suffered and we had to finish the play much sooner than normal. (not saying it was a bad scene or a traumatising one ... but Sadist was able to "break" masochist much more quickly than normal)

The level of pain you can tolerate (IMHO) has absolutely fuck all to do with your "trueness" as a masochist. I talk about a break point with my current play partner ... the point at which the play goes from intense/pleasurable/satisfying/what I want to unendurable/what I dont want is what we call "the break" and we very rarely push me beyond that break. The fact that my break is at a different level of play to that of say ... missturabtion ... does not make her a truer masochist than me ... it just means the level of pain we can endure is different.

If masochist A plays until they break (when they get bare hand slapped across the clit).. and masochist B plays until they break (when they get a single tail strike to the clit) ... then both masochists have played to their greatest endurance - exactly where that breaks is on the pain scale has no relationship to their "trueness" as a masochist.

To the OP .... if you want to please your Master by enduring greater amounts of pain with him ... work together to train your body and mind into processing pain better. I get the feeling from your OP that you are not actually in this as a masochist, but as a submissive ... in which case you need to find ways to stabalise your body and mind to submit to pain ... rather than worrying about finding it wildly hot. Not all submissives are masochistic and not all masochists are submissive.

ed to add .. OP's later posts indicated she was more masochistic than I first thought .. so scrap that if its not relevant

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 1:30:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HisPrincess05

For years I have denied myself the submissive side of me. On february of this year I gave myself to my Master for his complete and total control. I enjoy the machocist side of myself, however I need some guidance on how to endure the pain from different pieces of equipment when were are in sessions. We both agreed that I'm not allowed to have a safe word (he knows when I've taken my limit) however to other machocists can you please help me and give me some tips on enduring what my master dishes out?

I've just recently discovered that I do love the feel of being beaten, choked, tied and bond. I'm just curious on how to endure the most extreme sort of pain.

Princess

Breathing is a big factor in pain tolerance of any kind. My tolerance level is unusually high, so this isn't often an issue for me, but there are certain things that Daddy does that can push me to the brink. I find that when nearing that point, it helps to focus, relax, and be sure that muscles aren't necessarily loose, but certainly not flexed. Also the position matters for me. For instance, if I am being paddled, it hurts less if I am on my knees or somehow bent at the waist a bit. If I am laying flat, there is more give on my bottom and therefore, more sting and pain. Either way it doesn't bother me much unless he gets really sadistic and draws blood as he whips. But that is more about the utensil, not the position. The key is to let it out, if you are holding your breath it just hurts more, if you like that, it's great, but if not....
Just let loose, feel it, enjoy it, and let him see how much you like it. There have been a couple of times that the pain was unbearable, no matter what I did. I employed reverse psychology I suppose, I acted as though I liked it much more than I did and found that the more I screamed in supposed delight, the more turned on Daddy got, so the session ended much sooner that it would have otherwise. Shh, don't tell him!

Good luck!

BLGirl (Really, Bad Little Girl)

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 1:36:26 PM

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Everyone is so very different when it comes to personalizing how they take their own pain, for myself, with my (first and only)current play partiner, i tippie toe it, when the pain is increased, i tend to stand on my toes. i moan, giggle, babble, ummmmm, count (ugg).... just have fun with it.
Cheers!

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 3:03:46 PM

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Breathing exercises (much like lamaze techniques, if you've ever had a baby), I will frequently bite down on the ball gag or a pillow, or whatever else is handy.Those both work well for me.

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RE: Need some guidance.... on how to endure the pain? - 11/5/2008 3:25:28 PM

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one of the most painful experiences with him EVER was also really high on the "wooooaaaaaaaahhhmigosh" list =p
without going into details, it kicked off the most powerful endorphin rush i'd ever had
that's part of the joy in it. =p you can get to some really gnarly places when you're pushed far enough :)

anyway, i don't think aravain was necessarily trying to judge trueness of a masochist on any sort of scale, it was just a comment. you get used to alot, atleast i have, and i've found that i can take more, the more i take it (sometimes, i guess. some days im extra whiney =p) everybody has a limit, but i think getting used to it IS part of it.

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