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Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:20:40 PM   
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We have a Hitachi wand, and it works pretty well on my slave.  A little too well sometimes, I think.  If I get it on her clitoris, she totally freaks out, and begs me to stop... which of course eggs me on like crazy. She claims it's way too intense and that she could never possibly orgasm.  But I've never held it there for long at all...maybe 10 seconds at the most? 

So do you suppose if I were to hold it there for, say, 60 seconds...would she have an awesome orgasm?  Or a heart attack?  It's really hard for me to tell...

Edit: Keep in mind, this is generally done when she is not in a position to MAKE me stop...


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:22:17 PM   
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I wouldn't orgasm if it were held there for a full minute. I'd be crying and not in the good way. Direct clitoral stimulation of that strength is not at all fun for me, it hurts hurts badly and drains every bit of arousal.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:22:43 PM   
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is stop her safe word?
then stop..
else  ask why she says stop...instead of asking us
she propably will tell is she was close to dying or cumming

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  Edit: Keep in mind, this is generally done when she is not in a position to MAKE me stop...


I think she will die with you anyhow soemtime..lol

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:22:56 PM   
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Who knows!! Who cares !!
Try it.
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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:23:44 PM   
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No You would probable rub it raw and leave her in pain.

andi has a very sensitive clit. I have learned to be delicate with it and if I want better responses I need to relax when it comes to the clit and put more on the hood. The hood gives it enough of a dampener that she cums harder and longer when it is there.

Some girls just have Sensitive Clits and it ends up just hurting when you think it is supposed to be feeling good. andi assures me it is not a good feeling.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:24:03 PM   
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Or, she walks out the door never to be seen again as soon as she is physically able........

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:43:48 PM   
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She may be way too sensitive to use it directly on her clit.  You can try it (low speed!) against the hood of her clit, or perhaps right above it so she gets indirect stim or perhaps even use a dry washcloth to muffle the vibrations a bit.  

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:43:54 PM   
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It's painful, and not fun. If she had, say, nerve damage in her leg that made anything more than a light touch extremely painful, would you use that against her in play? That is cruelty.
I don't know why men seem to think that any stimulation of the clitoris is good. My partner is the same way. I've had to actually sit down and explain to him what it feels like and why I don't enjoy it. I compare it to sucking directly on the head of the penis just after he has cum, and he seems to understand that. He has told me before that it hurts when I do that. I have to physically guide him sometimes, or tell him flat out what to do, and it brings me out of the mood.
If she wants you to stop, have her explain to you exactly why. Then maybe you'll understand that there is no level of pleasure and it is not a "fun" pain.


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:46:11 PM   
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Not that we could tell you what to do per se, but personally i find our Hitachi wand directly applied to my clit to be a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and we have discovered less powerful vibes produce better and multiple orgasmic experiences.

Our wand has not gone to waste though. We love insertion play, from baseball bats down, and have a flogging rack with an impaler, and the wand works very well as an indirect vibrator, played on whatever is inside me. It works extremely well on glass, acrylic and metal insertions. The sensations i get from deep penetration and the wand also, as a by product, produce body rocking orgasms, for those of a mind to bring them forth!

Also, a wand can produce some very strange sensations if played on skin already enlivened by a good session of impact play, when the skin is hot and ultra receptive.

A wand is not just an ultra vibe on a lead, has many uses only limited by imagination.


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 12:51:36 PM   
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Magic wands hurt, period.

And when they aren't hurting, they're annoying.

But, when they're combined with other things, or a heck of a lot of other stimulation, then they can be nice.

I'd far rather use one to massage my painful shoulders than to orgasm with.  I've a bullet for that, and it is so much more fun.

Which reminds me, I need batteries...

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:07:38 PM   
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If the stimulation is too much, even for two seconds, you can ruin the ability to orgasm and it could be over for the night.  Then if you approach with it again another day... she would most likely be pulling away emotionally and physically, afraid of it.  I would suggest putting it away and working on things from a different angle.  It is no joke... not something you can manipulate or control if she is feeling this way and nothing you do unless it is the right thing, will work.  So put it from your mind for the moment unless you do wish to torture her, but don't expect a good outcome for that one.  This isn't something she can work through.

Direct stimulation is bothersom to many women.  The poster that suggested not being directly on the clit and putting a wash between the toy and clit has the right idea... or using it above or below helps too, but I would try it with something else or your finger until things are less stressful and you have a better idea of how things work with her.

My response to anything forced in this area would be to either knock your ass out to stop it or to never let you near me and shut down.  That is how seriously bad it can be.

I would try using a toy through her clothing or a cloth and see what happens there.  Go slow, don't expect a lot and take the pressure off of her to please you by having great orgasms.  Don't focus so much on it and just let things flow once you know what trips her trigger.  I would suggest playing a bit of doctor, getting right down there with your fingers, going slow, touching gently and before any toy... make sure she is so friggin hot she wouldn't care what happened as long as she could get that cum.  Learning a clit isn't just every clit, it is 'that' clit.

Another thing... you could have her masturbate in front of you so that you can watch to see how she does it.  Only we know what we feel and it can be a smooth run there, but it might give you an idea of how things need to be for those wonderufl blasts.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:09:29 PM   
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bmt,
she's your "slave" and you're asking us? It's also difficult to answer because isolating the activity doesn't provide a clue to her reaction. You don't say whether this occurs after a few minutes or hours of build up and/or play or if you just spread her legs and move in the heavy duty equipment.

With that in mind....

Do you have intimate knowledge of this woman, or woman in general?

As tough as that question sounds, it wasn't meant to insult.

The distinction between a build up to an "awesome orgasm" and that of a pending "heart attack" aren't the same. Your slave, as a valuable property, is your responsibility. You need to know, by time spent observing, what is 'good pain', or 'good screams' and those representing distress. Nobody here can provide that insight or ability for you. Even if we knew it - the information would only be partner specific and unless someone has had your slave to use prior to you - they really don't know. Your 'skills' as a lover need to appreciate that no two people are built or function the same way. What is the prep you do? Then there is the normal fluctuations of sensitivity from day to day to consider.

And what of scale?
What is the reaction to other toys? The 'Hitachi' wand is the nuclear bomb of vibrators. Some are as powerful as floor buffers and sanders.

So, what the answer to "...do you suppose if I were to hold it there for, say, 60 seconds...would she have an awesome orgasm?  Or a heart attack?"  is - It depends. It depends on the situation and your ability to 'read' her. Some folk I know - view the Hitachi as weapon and would prefer 60 strokes of a cane or single tail versus 6 seconds, let alone 60, at the business end of one. There are times when even the slightest touch compares to a "poke in the eye". Then again there are times when a crop to the same place generates a completely different and much more squishy response. Like an 'eye' there are many reasons why 'tearing' occurs - not all bad or resulting from 'pokes'.
 
The bottom line however is - she's your slave - your property - do with her as you see fit. Poke away!
 
"It's really hard for me to tell..." Meanwhile - HAVE FUN! Keep learning and observing and trying until it's not so hard.  

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:12:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: camille65

I wouldn't orgasm if it were held there for a full minute. I'd be crying and not in the good way. Direct clitoral stimulation of that strength is not at all fun for me, it hurts hurts badly and drains every bit of arousal.


Ditto for me.

Think of it in the terms of her instead of gently kissing and licking the head of your penis to rubbing it hard with course sand paper and then you might have an idea what she's feeling.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:21:29 PM   
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Put a vibrating egg inside her and then use the wand. 

One word.

Levitation... 


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:27:59 PM   
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greetings bmt

as to the Hitachi wand ~~ in my younger years, and for a lot of years, i used a vibrator ALOT and directly on my clit.  so by now i have desensitized myself and to me the wand is the perfect vibrator.  but most women aren't like that.  to most women, that damned thing is hell-on-wheels, so to speak.  and the wand isn't the only time direct clitoral stimulation is too much.

i know for myself, if Daunt and i've been playing intensely, and He's been doing things to my clit and i've orgasmed alot, it becomes so sensitive it Hurts, and not in a good way, and i writhe and beg for Him to stop.  when that happens, it's like Lockit said, "Then if you approach with it again another day... she would most likely be pulling away emotionally and physically, afraid of it."  yep yep, that's a fact.

my two cents?  be careful with her, follow Merc's suggestions and get to know her reactions well.  there's a difference between being hurt   and being hurt

well wishes, and good luck
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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:28:39 PM   
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I have a "guy analogue" for this.  At least for me, quite frequently just after I orgasm, my cock will be very sensitive... WAY too sensitive for any significant stimulation.  If I do receive such stimulation, it is not a good thing.   It's not exactly "pain"... but it's an overload in a bad way.  And yes, dom/sub who cares... any lover of mine who ignored that would pretty quickly not be my lover.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:30:07 PM   
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Leadership ~~ not to change the subject but, just wanted to tell You that's a hawt pic :)

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:38:20 PM   
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quote:

she claims it's way too intense and that she could never possibly orgasm. But I've never held it there for long at all...maybe 10 seconds at the most?

So do you suppose if I were to hold it there for, say, 60 seconds...would she have an awesome orgasm? Or a heart attack? It's really hard for me to tell...


If she claims she can't orgasm from that, why wouldn't you believe her?

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:46:35 PM   
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Sir and i don't have a hitachi, but the other night He forced me to use my safeword after one hour of oral sex...my clit just could not take anymore (but oh my it was good til then)!!  i shudder to think what would happen if someone put one of those things in His hands lol!

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 1:47:59 PM   
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My master brought me a hitachi wand. I think it is great, sometimes it can be a little to intense, but if it is used above my clit and no directly on it it is alot better sensation for me.
Does make me rather noisy though!
It does need to be turned of as soon as ive come though, or it can get painful.



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