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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 4:34:50 PM   
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the magic wand is POWERFUL. direct clit stimulation quickly leads to overload and me going numb there but still writhing in pain. i tried begging my boyfriend to stop in the hopes that he will move onto something else and we wouldn't have to stop the fun altogether. i didn't used our safe signal because well, technically i could endure it. but if it had gone on longer i would have. i convinced him afterwards that direct contact does NOT feel any kind of good. i don't think it's a bad idea to try things on yourself before doing it to another person. if he had direct head contact with the wand, maybe he's know what it felt like. it's anti-erotic! don't do it unless you are punishing her for real, and not in a fun spanky way.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 4:48:12 PM   
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She could have a forced orgasm and it could be just as much torture as any pain could be.

I've ridden a sybian for a half hour and did not orgasm, but it was very torturous for me, not at all a pleasant experience.

I can handle vibrations over my clit hood pleasantly and enjoy orgasms from that (though in general I prefer dildos and manual stim), but directly on the clit does not bring any sort of pleasure.

Have you considered having HER try the toy on herself and experiment to see what works?  There's more to orgasms and masturbation than "apply directly to clit, wait, orgasm."

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 4:56:58 PM   
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Wet two fingers put them on her clit, put the vibrator on top of your fingers.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 7:01:36 PM   
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OP: I own a Hitachi Magic Wand (I actually traded some handmade jewelry for it along with some other goodies at an event where I was vending a few months ago; love bartering!).  I own a lot of toys.  This thing is a friggin' jackhammer.  It lacks subtlety and I could see it wrecking orgasms for some, desensitizing, and perhaps causing tissue damage.  It also heats up more than most other vibrating toys.  I know it's supposed to be the Cadillac of vibrators but as vibes go, my recommendation is to get a few that are relatively inexpensive (One of the only times I will advocate for cheap/disposable toys) and have fun experimenting with the varying intensities.  Oh, and if you do decide to use the Magic Wand on occasion, putting something between the toy and the flesh can diffuse some of the jackhammering sensation.  Additionally, there are attachments that can be put on the thing for g-spot stimulation.  I don't own one of those but think that could have greater efficacy than the Magic Wand for clitoral use. 
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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 7:10:32 PM   
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We have a Hitachi wand, and it works pretty well on my slave.  A little too well sometimes, I think.  If I get it on her clitoris, she totally freaks out, and begs me to stop... which of course eggs me on like crazy. She claims it's way too intense and that she could never possibly orgasm.  But I've never held it there for long at all...maybe 10 seconds at the most? 

So do you suppose if I were to hold it there for, say, 60 seconds...would she have an awesome orgasm?  Or a heart attack?  It's really hard for me to tell...

Edit: Keep in mind, this is generally done when she is not in a position to MAKE me stop...



I looooooove my Hitachi, on the low setting. And I don't do direct pressure on my clit, just rubbing it around and...yeah.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 8:24:11 PM   
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I've used a Hitachi before and the experience was enough to make me read this post and cringe like a guy who watches someone else's nuts get slammed in a door. I'd be willing to try it again, but if Sir tried to hold that thing on me for 60 seconds after I told him it hurt, he'd be short a submissive. 

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 9:37:55 PM   
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My experiences with it have been much different than the majority on this thread. I respond well to it and love it. But it does cause numbing if used too much. A minute would have me frustrated from pulling it away too fast.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/5/2008 10:06:29 PM   
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Well, to answer a few of your questions, we have been together for 9 years and have played around and experimented a lot.  she does not respond much at all to other vibes...in fact, the Hitachi is the only one that's even come close to giving her an orgasm. 

Also, keep in mind, she is very, very bad at describing her feelings and how things feel physically.  she tries, but gets very frustrated.  she also subscribes to the "i'm your slave, do whatever you want to me" mentality, which means she's not always honest when she thinks it would mean my stopping doing something that I want to do. 

I've never used the Hitachi on another woman...so I didn't know that holding it a bit longer wouldn't go from pain to stimulation.  Also, she never went so far as to say "it hurts"...just that it's "too much".  Hence the question.

Anyway, thanks a bunch to those who shared their experiences, and any more input is welcome.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 12:08:49 AM   
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It is possible for uncomfortable sensations to lead to pleasure, post orgasm for example the clit can become very uncomfy to the touch but often with gental caressing that can be broke through, but it reqiuires the person to know what they are doing, going in like a jackhammer will probably just kill the mood. Just going right in and causing pain normally will just equal the lack of orgasm, once a woman has orgasmed its far easier to do it again, if the person is concentrating on the uncomfortable sensations then they would allow themselves to get to orgam. Most womens bodies are differant from men, its is commonly known that not all women find it easy to orgasm becuse it isnt needed for procreation. A large part of allowing the orgasm in a  woman is to relax, for many it is hard to 'force' an orgasm.

Also if she struggles to express herself then thats probably something you need to work on, we can all speculate but only she will know how her body feels.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 7:59:16 AM   
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Oh, I agree, it is something we should work on, but it's hard to do when it's so one sided.  she is of the opinion that when it comes to those types of things, her opinion or feelings don't matter.  I'm her third marriage (though by far the longest) and she had a rough childhood from what she has told me (lots of "women should know their place" type attitudes), so expressing herself just doesn't seem to be something that comes natural to her at all.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 8:04:20 AM   
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If you're the top, why not force her to answer questions?
He's done that to me; held me in his arms and just not let go until I answered the question.
Or assign an email or journal entry to answer a specific question.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 8:29:56 AM   
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It depends. If you are pulling up the clitoral hood and applying the vibrator it will be too much but if you aren't she probably just isn't used to that much sensation.

Different vibrators also have different speeds -- difference women like different speeds. Try some different speeds to see what she likes or can tolerate.

Also remember that most women require time to experience orgasm plus a sense of relaxation. She won't orgasm in a minute or two probably and you may need to switch around activities to help her relax and build her up slowly. In porn it looks fast either because they are faking/acting or because they just cut out the build up and get to the money shots.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 9:22:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Barelily

Wet two fingers put them on her clit, put the vibrator on top of your fingers.


Excellent suggestion.
Many women find the Hitachi is just too intense for direct stimulation...some women find it helps to put a soft cloth between it and and their clit.
There are a few attachments that go over the head and enable it to be used inside.

Perhaps you could try one like this (The Clit Exciter):
http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys/innie_vibrators.html


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 2:06:17 PM   
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I can't believe how many people have not so great experience with Hitachi. I love my magic wand, so much so, that it broke. Short circuited my electricity one day, when the cord set on fire.

*sighs*

Yeah I know. *lol*

Anyway, I don't like the attachments so I only used mine for clit stimulation. I decided to try some different types of vibrators after my Hitachi broke, but none seemed the same, quite lackluster (to be honest).




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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 2:20:26 PM   
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There are times when I can handle heavy stimulation and times when I can't handle it.  I found most vibrators too light, but then those days come along and they are perfect.  A lot may have something to do with how things start.  If they are heavy to start with, it can set my teeth on edge.  Going in slow, building things up or being really in the mood, help.

I met a woman who didn't know about her clit and masturbating.  I was to show her how I did things, with both our husbands right there.  I could not believe how sensitive she was and compared her to myself.  I was eighteen.  We are all different and have different times of wanting or needing different things.

Someone rushing in and giving me a lot of stimulation real fast for the most part just doesn't work and it ends in frustration.  I used to get upset and critical of men who seemed to want to rush to fiddle with the clit to get to the main course... their climax and they tended to rub real hard, four or five times and expect that good enough to hop on.  I think a lot has to do with approach.  Fast and hard has a place, but I like that slow hand or approach... I never fail to respond to that.

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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 2:45:37 PM   
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There are times when I can handle heavy stimulation and times when I can't handle it.  I found most vibrators too light, but then those days come along and they are perfect.  A lot may have something to do with how things start.  If they are heavy to start with, it can set my teeth on edge.  Going in slow, building things up or being really in the mood, help.

I met a woman who didn't know about her clit and masturbating.  I was to show her how I did things, with both our husbands right there.  I could not believe how sensitive she was and compared her to myself.  I was eighteen.  We are all different and have different times of wanting or needing different things.

Someone rushing in and giving me a lot of stimulation real fast for the most part just doesn't work and it ends in frustration.  I used to get upset and critical of men who seemed to want to rush to fiddle with the clit to get to the main course... their climax and they tended to rub real hard, four or five times and expect that good enough to hop on.  I think a lot has to do with approach.  Fast and hard has a place, but I like that slow hand or approach... I never fail to respond to that.


You are right about the slow build. I think maybe that's the problem - it's how some use certain vibrators. It's also definitely about knowing your body.

I use a sort of hover technique with clit stimulators and it also helps to keep the setting on low and maybe use a buffer, like over the panties or against soft material (like silk, satin or thin cotton).


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 5:38:02 PM   
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bmt - I love my Hitachi - he even has a name...Excalibur. However, all women are not created equal and that could be a good discussion to have with your girl when you are not in the middle of a play scene. I often want feedback from my boy on what works, and what doesn't. If she says its too intense, it is possible to go too far overboard and just create bad pain.

How does she react to a light touch? What you are looking for is the 'sweet spot' or the 'sweet zone' and that is not always MORE IS BETTER.

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Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 6:17:41 PM   
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Thetammyjo makes a very good point. Dommes I have served have rarely used either a vibrator or wand on me because of excessive stimulation.
The domme (and I as well prefer a slow build up, which I've found is best done by genital rubbing along my slit and penetration with one or several fingers.
I have found that older, more experienced dommes are more patient, hence better at fisting, which is the ultimate for this sub girl.


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RE: Vibrator + clitoris = AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!! - 11/6/2008 7:08:50 PM   
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I found the attachments allowing for sensation inside to be exactly the description of a jackhammer inside me. Not at all pleasant. I truely felt i was being bruised inside. My organs complained!  On my clit i can handle the wand with alot of lube. After the first orgasm though there is no need to kick it past low at all. And getting to that first one is quite the balancing act of moving it over the area and away in a dance that builds the tension just right.

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