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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 3:56:42 PM   
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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:22:45 PM   
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You forgot his dear aunt living in a slum in Boston...

Oh wait...That wa sthe other one.


Did you have a point you wanted to make?
 
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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:32:14 PM   
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As far as I'm concerned Alaska can keep her,they for some reason elected this train wreck to her current office....they are IMO stuck with her.Any foolish speculation of her viability as a candidate in 2012 ,completely ignores/discounts the drag she wound up causing the ticket this year....fundies are a fringe extreme right wing and as such she is not now and never will be viable for national office.....good riddance


Sarah Palin lost an election for the Number Two job.. She was seen as a neophyte candidate with little real experience so what happened?

She ran four years later and won the Number One job.

Sarah Palin's next move will to secure her re-election as Governor of Alaska. Once done, in 2012 she will have been a State Governor for over six years and she will have been through the rigors of running for Vice President of the United States. She will have tasted victory ( Two term Governor) and tasted defeat (Losing Lt. Governor and Vice President). She will no longer carry the mantle of inexperience, she will have amassed a war chest and a national following and she will be seen as the champion of working class, working parents throughout the county.  

She was a rock star all over the country and her crowds vastly out drew McCain's. Hurt McCain? Hardly. The map would have been much more blue without her, the popular vote, millions less.

Go ahead and underestimate her.... really...please...go dismiss her.
Well FDD,if i was a hard core Democrat...this is exactly the view I would want the Republicans to take.Remain a party looking to a tired and shinking pool of voters for my base.But if I was looking at it as a patriotic American who realises that 2 healthy vibrant party's are in the nations best interest I would suggest they look at the demographics of all the new voters and figure out some middle ground wherein they might appeal to those new voters.Should they take some sort of joy at rauchous Palin rally's and forget that Obama was speaking to crowds ten and twenty times larger....should they look at the percentage of voters under 35 who voted Democrat....how about the minority voters.If the Republican Party insists on remaining a party appealing to fear and division and finds it's only likely voters middle aged white men...how will they ever win another election.FDD numbers don't lie....and this morning they are screaming at the learedship of your party,listen or wind up in the dust bin of American politics.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:33:49 PM   
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You forgot his dear aunt living in a slum in Boston...

Oh wait...That wa sthe other one.


Did you have a point you wanted to make?
 
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Yeah,he didn`t vote for him ,but he`s proud.

See the pride shining........

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:42:18 PM   
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Palin is polarising and in the new reality theRepublican Party can not afford her.She is a move to the right at a time he Party MUST move to the center to remain relevant.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:48:11 PM   
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Hoping hard......

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:54:24 PM   
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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:54:28 PM   
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I`m hoping the republicans make her the partie`s leader and the partie`s future.

Hoping hard......

Wouldn't it be better to hope they look for candidates who will move the party closer to the center and work better with the dems to actually try to help the people?  Wouldn't hoping for a balance between the two be better for all involved?  Call me crazy but we don't want to err by leaning too far the other way just to distance ourselves from the last president.  If you are in a canoe, leaning too far in either direction is a bad thing.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:56:04 PM   
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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:57:05 PM   
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< Message edited by slvemike4u -- 11/5/2008 5:02:41 PM >

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 4:59:30 PM   
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Now now Owner,we are a 2 party country,better they reinvent themselves and find some compassion for their platform than they become irrelevant.

Actually, there is nothing stating anywhere that we are 2 party.  There were four or five different parties on my ballot.  We have just all been brainwashed into believing that there are only 2 parties.  Remember folks, the two major parties now didn't even exist when the constitution was written.  They can be replaced when they become irrelevant too.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:04:53 PM   
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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:07:56 PM   
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Honestly...who really gives a damn?


I think the fact that this woman could have been the VP and possibly POTUS makes her interesting,among other things.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:09:31 PM   
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Palin is polarising and in the new reality theRepublican Party can not afford her.She is a move to the right at a time he Party MUST move to the center to remain relevant.

 
I don't think remaining relevant is truly the point.  Republicans have gotten too far off course from standard conservative values and policies, due to the religious right nuts and the fiscal irresponsibility of Bush.  They've forgotten what their base really wants from them, and the leaders need to sit back and think about that if they want to regain any power in the future.  It will be interesting to watch if they can rebuild.  I'm a conservative who just couldn't vote for McCain.  They need to think about that because there are a lot like me.
 
The Democrats ran a great race.  I was rather shocked by it - they've seemed so bumbling for so long, that when they did something well, and had a candidate who was appealing to many and were up against a candidate who represented the current administration too closely for comfort for most of the public to swallow .. it was a perfect storm for Obama's election.  Again, it will be interesting to watch different people in power and see what they do with it.  Maybe some good, maybe not - that remains to be seen.  I voted for him because I think the 'other side' deserves a shot. 
 
If Obama does well, in two years Dems will continue to carry the majority in the House and Senate.  If he's too far to the left, i dunno .. I think both parties would be well served keeping somewhat to the center, because I think that's where the majority of the American public are. 
 
But Palin will be a footnote in history, no more.  I doubt we'll hear from her again, and that's not something I'm sorry about. 
 

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:12:42 PM   
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I`m hoping the republicans make her the partie`s leader and the partie`s future.

Hoping hard......

Wouldn't it be better to hope they look for candidates who will move the party closer to the center and work better with the dems to actually try to help the people?  Wouldn't hoping for a balance between the two be better for all involved?  Call me crazy but we don't want to err by leaning too far the other way just to distance ourselves from the last president.  If you are in a canoe, leaning too far in either direction is a bad thing.



There isn't a doubt that shes a competent woman, a smart business woman as well, she has done a very good job for her state,ie her fight with the big oil company's however I watched several of her interviews and she was just terrible..She couldn't handle the pressure...We shall see her in the future I am sure as a rising star for the republicans, she will learn from her mistakes and come out better for her experience as number two on the ticket..I agree that she will serve out her term and perhaps run for the senate or house next time around......Mccain would have been more successful with Colin Powell  as his running mate...bounty

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:26:49 PM   
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I`m hoping the republicans make her the partie`s leader and the partie`s future.

Hoping hard......

Wouldn't it be better to hope they look for candidates who will move the party closer to the center and work better with the dems to actually try to help the people?  Wouldn't hoping for a balance between the two be better for all involved?  Call me crazy but we don't want to err by leaning too far the other way just to distance ourselves from the last president.  If you are in a canoe, leaning too far in either direction is a bad thing.



There isn't a doubt that shes a competent woman, a smart business woman as well, she has done a very good job for her state,ie her fight with the big oil company's however I watched several of her interviews and she was just terrible..She couldn't handle the pressure...We shall see her in the future I am sure as a rising star for the republicans, she will learn from her mistakes and come out better for her experience as number two on the ticket..I agree that she will serve out her term and perhaps run for the senate or house next time around......Mccain would have been more successful with Colin Powell  as his running mate...bounty


Oh Bounty you are so wrong.

The McCain staffers are starting to talk.

They`re calling them Wasilla hillbillys on a coast to coast shopping spree.

The McCainites had to dummy up before the election.Not now.

Plus she has more legal troubles waiting for her in Alaska.

But I hope the republicans latch on to her still.

Hope hope hope.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:44:51 PM   
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I would suggest they look at the demographics of all the new voters and figure out some middle ground wherein they might appeal to those new voters..


Yes well... when those new voter start trying to bu homes, pay much higher taxes and pay for private schools because the public school systems in their areas are in shambles, concerned more with how a student feels about themselves and less about what the actually know.... maybe they will have a different outlook.  Or maybe those new voters will be out of jobs as the auto, coal and oil industries lie in ruin? Who knows right.... But go ahead and continue to scoff.

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:52:54 PM   
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I`m hoping the republicans make her the partie`s leader and the partie`s future.

Hoping hard......

Wouldn't it be better to hope they look for candidates who will move the party closer to the center and work better with the dems to actually try to help the people?  Wouldn't hoping for a balance between the two be better for all involved?  Call me crazy but we don't want to err by leaning too far the other way just to distance ourselves from the last president.  If you are in a canoe, leaning too far in either direction is a bad thing.


I'm confused, I'm still trying to figure out how stealing more money from others via confiscatory taxation will help me or for that matter an instance in recorded history where that concept actually increased the average standard of living of the society or just the poor in society.

Many people voted out of envy and all of us are going to pay a price for it. And since it was an emotional choice it's unlikely they'll blame themselves when a significant portion of them find themselves out of work in a year.

As far as moving to the left, McCain is a Republican in name only and had no business running under the Republican ticket. Ironically, if any of the other Republican nominees won the primary I don't think Obama would be President. It's a hell of a lot easier to promote a conservative philosophy when you haven't spent the past 8 years poking your party in the eye in order to develop a "maveric" image (a lot of good it did him; you'd think he was a fugitive nazi war criminal based on some of the comments i see in this forum and in the media at large). I have a hard time thinking any other candidate would of put up with the softball debates where no questions were asked about Obama's associations or his numerous ideas to harm the nation (ie. "I intend to bankrupt the coal industry in this country".) My deepest regret about McCain's loss is he'll remain being my Senator. However, considering the poor choice available this year I had to hold my nose and vote for the doddering old socialist instead of the young, arrogant, wanna-be-totalitarian marxist socialist for President.

My personal wet dream (which won't happen in my lifetime) is to have a congress and a President that doesn't wipe their collective asses with the Constitution every day they show up for work (something we haven't had since the 1800's or so). For the perpetually slow and easily propagandized out there, I'm not referencing the patriot act. And, no, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter either but I do appreciate how he behaves in Congress.


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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:58:09 PM   
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I`m hoping the republicans make her the partie`s leader and the partie`s future.

Hoping hard......

Wouldn't it be better to hope they look for candidates who will move the party closer to the center and work better with the dems to actually try to help the people?  Wouldn't hoping for a balance between the two be better for all involved?  Call me crazy but we don't want to err by leaning too far the other way just to distance ourselves from the last president.  If you are in a canoe, leaning too far in either direction is a bad thing.



There isn't a doubt that shes a competent woman, a smart business woman as well, she has done a very good job for her state,ie her fight with the big oil company's however I watched several of her interviews and she was just terrible..She couldn't handle the pressure...We shall see her in the future I am sure as a rising star for the republicans, she will learn from her mistakes and come out better for her experience as number two on the ticket..I agree that she will serve out her term and perhaps run for the senate or house next time around......Mccain would have been more successful with Colin Powell  as his running mate...bounty


Oh Bounty you are so wrong.

The McCain staffers are starting to talk.

They`re calling them Wasilla hillbilly's on a coast to coast shopping spree.

The McCainites had to dummy up before the election.Not now.

Plus she has more legal troubles waiting for her in Alaska.

But I hope the republicans latch on to her still.

Hope hope hope.


Well I have been known to be wrong ,but it was the big mans staff that gave her the money to "pretty' up, but wait owner that one time I thought I was wrong turned out that I was right lol...bounty

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RE: What will Sarah Palin do NOW !? - 11/5/2008 5:59:19 PM   
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between her and Biden? between McCain and Obama?

but this is moot. It's done and over with

I need to go hide what little money I have now, before middle class is re-defined.

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