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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/20/2005 10:37:24 AM)

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BlkTallFullfig,

All Doms are perfect, didn't you know that?

Foxer
No Foxer55, didn't know that all doms are perfect... I am a domme and am more on the flawed side; so far, subs dig that, and I find it's less work than trying to keep up perfect facade.

I actually like the "down to earth" clause in profiles, because for me, it means you are able to connect with other human beings no matter how similar or dissimilar they are. M




Foxer55 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/20/2005 3:27:01 PM)

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In response to Foxer's comments that he only gets off the wall comments from females, I looked at his profile...that in conjunction with his comments that had already been posted did nothing to say that he was even worth a second glance.


IrishMist,

I believe if you check the content of the OP you'll find I said words to the effect of "What I got in return was a meaningless, incoherent reply that could be a result of drunk, high, medicated, or perhaps dyslexic." which was conveneinetly ignored.

My thinking is with emails that are incoherent and misworded to the extent of having no meaning there is a problem. First, emails like that are indicative of exactly what I said, "...drunk, high..." and that may be a widespread problem. I say that because I see other similar posts on the web that are made by people who are screwed-up on something or have some personal issue. I would hope the former is not true but it would fit with the pattern of angry and defensive posts here. This could be extended to a probablility of there being a lot of unhappy people out there and that could add at another component of difficulty to using the web as a means of contact.

Second, why post an email or response to someone you apparently don't like unless you are really "drunk, high..." or have some other personal issue? Seems a bit of a meaningless effort to me. Maybe to feel good about themselves for, well, something.

Third, you are welcome to dislike my profile until the web goes dark. I'm not obliged to please you or anyone in particular unless I wish to and I'm certainly not obligated to please the world in general so I write the profile as I wish. My profile is mine to create and I would not think of criticizing anyone for any profile they create - its their property, their life, and their palette to express themselves. You connect with my profile or someone else's profile or you don't - END OF MESSAGE. Critiquing their profile seems a self-serving effort - maybe to make you feel good about yourself? Seems there are a lot of people around looking for ways to make themselves feel good with as little effort as possible.

What is curious is the many angry and defensive posts in this thread that are about my profile and not about the OP. So, why does someone email an incoherent response to an inquiry they set themselves up for?

Foxer




IrishMist -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/20/2005 3:40:44 PM)

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My profile is mine to create and I would not think of criticizing anyone for any profile they create


Very true, but when you come on the web, and make such a generalized outcry of 'WHAT IS IT WITH THESE WOMEN', and then go on to explain...BY YOURSELF...that you place personal ads on different boards....YOU, YOURSELF, are asking us to critique YOUR profile and answer your question. PRETTY SIMPLE TO ME. Or do you need your something to help you see that?

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Critiquing their profile seems a self-serving effort


Not at all, especially when a sophisticated, well-educated, too- good to be true gentleman like yourself asks all us simple-minded women to do so for you.

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maybe to make you feel good about yourself?


Hmmm, honey...all I have to do is listen to your rabble here and I FEEL 10X BETTER ABOUT MYSELF. [:D]

Anyway, it does not matter now...I am done with you...




orfunboi -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/20/2005 6:00:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

Sunshine,

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I spent some time reading your post and your profile. There is something about a 60-something year old man looking for a woman at least ten years younger than he is, that initially put me off. Then, the constant reminding about how financially secure (and wealthy) you are is a turn-off for me also. Finally, the fact that the only criteria you require is someone who looks good and acts well on your arm, would make me just hit "next".

Now, there may be some good looking gold diggers out there that will answer your notes or contact you because all they want is someone to take care of them. However, many of us who are in that age range, attractive, normal weight, cultured, and educated don't need someone else's money. We can take care of ourselves in that way.

So, what else do you have to offer? I generally don't look at men your age as I prefer men more in my own age range. Women live longer than men and tend to be healthier. We should really be looking for men at least 4 years younger than ourselves. Do I really want to be possibly changing someone's diapers in 10 years or do I want someone who will still be able to travel and live life fully with me?

If you don't want to come across as being conceited and self-centered, I'd suggest that changes to your profile include women who include those in your own age range, may not be model material and I suggest you include more information about your life BESIDES the money. In fact, I'd leave the whole money part out. You don't want to be wondering if a woman loves you for yourself or your money......well, maybe you don't care.


1. My profile says nothing about money - your interpretation - which immediately makes me suspicious of your judgement. People of means don't dicuss money.

2. Don't get along with women my age, never have, and the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have which is usually apparent so I screen them out. Why they haven't taken care of themselves is an academic discussion that is meaningless. Best relationship I ever had was with someone 15 years younger than me. The next best was with someone 21 years older than me. The ones my age were always a disaster, I don't do topping from the bottom well.

Foxer



i wondered about the money comments myself, even went back and checked your profile and didn't see anything about it. You do seem very self assured and confident, maybe that scares people, sounds like a good thing to me.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/20/2005 11:18:54 PM)

its funny i just saw someone list Hughe Hef as the person whos the end all be all of women cactching lets take a look hes been divocred more times then gm made cars
almost has elzibeth talyor beat in marriages. only claim to fame is playboy which in a hundreds years or so will be looked as no real contribution to this planits culture. yep i would say thats a winner NOT i think people need to get out of the fantasy land department start getting with reality. prove your something more at least to your self then some over sexed concept of life and selfish greed in other words get your head out of the sand quit being a fration be a whole person shrugs manipulaton sucks even those can take someones words and twist them luckly there are those that can read between lines :)




quietkitten -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 1:06:00 AM)

Not all women are the same you know...

edited for excessive bitchiness




Sunshine119 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 8:39:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: orfunboi


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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

Sunshine,

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I spent some time reading your post and your profile. There is something about a 60-something year old man looking for a woman at least ten years younger than he is, that initially put me off. Then, the constant reminding about how financially secure (and wealthy) you are is a turn-off for me also. Finally, the fact that the only criteria you require is someone who looks good and acts well on your arm, would make me just hit "next".

Now, there may be some good looking gold diggers out there that will answer your notes or contact you because all they want is someone to take care of them. However, many of us who are in that age range, attractive, normal weight, cultured, and educated don't need someone else's money. We can take care of ourselves in that way.

So, what else do you have to offer? I generally don't look at men your age as I prefer men more in my own age range. Women live longer than men and tend to be healthier. We should really be looking for men at least 4 years younger than ourselves. Do I really want to be possibly changing someone's diapers in 10 years or do I want someone who will still be able to travel and live life fully with me?

If you don't want to come across as being conceited and self-centered, I'd suggest that changes to your profile include women who include those in your own age range, may not be model material and I suggest you include more information about your life BESIDES the money. In fact, I'd leave the whole money part out. You don't want to be wondering if a woman loves you for yourself or your money......well, maybe you don't care.


1. My profile says nothing about money - your interpretation - which immediately makes me suspicious of your judgement. People of means don't dicuss money.

2. Don't get along with women my age, never have, and the very large majority of them have not taken as good care of themselves as I have which is usually apparent so I screen them out. Why they haven't taken care of themselves is an academic discussion that is meaningless. Best relationship I ever had was with someone 15 years younger than me. The next best was with someone 21 years older than me. The ones my age were always a disaster, I don't do topping from the bottom well.

Foxer



i wondered about the money comments myself, even went back and checked your profile and didn't see anything about it. You do seem very self assured and confident, maybe that scares people, sounds like a good thing to me.


The money comments were in the OPs first post. And then, later, he asserted that people of means don't talk about it. Well, I find those whose money is so important to them that they have to talk about it are generally people who value money more than people. JMHO. There are many who write on this board that are financially secure, but don't rub it in others faces. It's just a matter of class.




slavedesires -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 9:21:39 AM)

yes DelRey...[8D].... totally great post!!




addcted2it -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 1:48:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

I have spent some time posting personals on the web with little result. What is it with women...? I send emails to women and get these off-the-wall responses.

[Snip]



I have heard the very same complaints time and time again from men who are trying to make contact with women on CollarMe or other sites. Most, like you, have legitimate complaints. But the first thing that comes to my mind is this: Most of the women here have had bad experiences with men who respond to their ads. They probably have more messages per day than they can read in detail, and yours might not stand out as some of the others. Add to it the fact that we really do not know who we are writing to in the first place.

Probably my biggest complaint is that woman are seeking something so specific that they do not want to spend any time getting to know someone that does not meet all of their criteria. The same thing holds true in the vanilla community, so it's no picnic for anyone!

The only bit of information I can pass along is this: Don't give up, and try not to take these rejections too seriously. Good luck!

- addicted2it




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 1:54:22 PM)

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The money comments were in the OPs first post. And then, later, he asserted that people of means don't talk about it. Well, I find those whose money is so important to them that they have to talk about it are generally people who value money more than people. JMHO.
My sentiments exactly. M




Foxer55 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 4:54:22 PM)

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The money comments were in the OPs first post. And then, later, he asserted that people of means don't talk about it. Well, I find those whose money is so important to them that they have to talk about it are generally people who value money more than people. JMHO. There are many who write on this board that are financially secure, but don't rub it in others faces. It's just a matter of class.


Sunshine,

That is, until YOU start complaining you don't want another guy or Dom sponging off you.

Foxer




Foxer55 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 5:01:27 PM)

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I have heard the very same complaints time and time again from men who are trying to make contact with women on CollarMe or other sites. Most, like you, have legitimate complaints. But the first thing that comes to my mind is this: Most of the women here have had bad experiences with men who respond to their ads. They probably have more messages per day than they can read in detail, and yours might not stand out as some of the others. Add to it the fact that we really do not know who we are writing to in the first place.


Exactly! And that's all the more reason for keeping it short and sweet first time around. Seems ot me you're being polite enough to not waste their time reading stuff that's like the cart before the horse.

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Probably my biggest complaint is that woman are seeking something so specific that they do not want to spend any time getting to know someone that does not meet all of their criteria. The same thing holds true in the vanilla community, so it's no picnic for anyone!


My view on this is the tighter they constrain their search, the less luck they'll ever have connecting. Its also the reason my search is only limited to someone "appealing" and "in their mid-to-late 40s." If I don't like the way they are but they fill those two criteria, I'll fix them to fit the rest of what I want. That's the fun part!

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The only bit of information I can pass along is this: Don't give up, and try not to take these rejections too seriously. Good luck!


Yeah, just keep sloggin' away

Foxer




Foxer55 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/21/2005 10:32:34 PM)

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FTopinMichigan -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 5:48:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Foxer55
While I'd love to continue this a bit and spar with some here, I've a busy week out of town and its time to get ready for launch. Thanks to all who ventured into this thread and made their opinions known, even the critical ones.

I'll certainly be thinking of some of your posts here as I drive north for the Holiday. I'm a bit vexed by the number of angry and defensive posts to come out of this but the world is what it is. Peer discussions can be testy but rational exchange with a little humor will always yield more productive results. Nevertheless, this was an enlightening exercise.

Thanks.

Foxer



Foxer, did you forget that you posted this "exit" post earlier? I guess you're not too busy now. [;)] Interesting to beg out of the thread due to life constraints, but it apears more that you couldn't answer back to what's been posted by a few people. Selective reading AND responding.

I suppose we all do that, from time to time. [:)] Have a safe trip!

K




KnightofMists -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 7:29:01 AM)

Ok I really don't get this "What is it with Women?" thread...

I have never received strange emails or responses to my emails from women. Actually I have had alot of great interactions and some friendships develop because of the email exchange. I don't look for a deep meaningful relationship right off the hop... in fact I am not even looking for that now and never will... I have what I want and my energy is directed to enhancing its growth. But, I do enjoy the friendships with women and yes a few good men... believe it or not there are some good ones out there contrary to what the junk mail would seem to indicate.

So What is it with Women??? mmmmmmmm maybe the proper quesiton is "What is it with the women that you choose to approach?" mmmmmmmmmm your approach maybe? your judgement?




girl4you2 -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 2:28:09 PM)

i do enjoy your take on posts; thank you, KnightofMists.




kyraofMists -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 5:27:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Yeah... how's that working for you?



That is one of my favorite questions. Always serves as a good reality check.

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Just open up a bit. Or you can go take a romantic walk down the beach with DelRey, cause my guess is he's not going to have any other offers.



LMAO.....

Knight's kyra




kyraofMists -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 5:37:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

willing,

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Just to give my opinion, i am a confident business owner submissive, if i were not owned, your profile would intrigue me enough to learn more.

The expert in everthing would not put me off, but you would definitely have to prove to me your honesty.

Again, be true to your profile and set your standards high.

My standards for a Master were just as high and took me four years for Him to find me, but i have not one single regret of the wait. It's just a very frustrating time.

Personally, call me geographically prejudice, but i did limit my correspondence to a two state area. So that may be some of the off-the-wall responses, you never know, but i always let that fact be known upfront.

I wish you much success however you define it.

BTs willing


See...?

Foxer



Ahhhh... yes, I see now. All you wanted was someone to validate your own opinion. You didn't come here for advice at all; you just came here for a pat on the head and an "Atta boy!"

Well, atta boy!

Knight's kyra




Ethne -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 8:34:56 PM)

I have read the profile, and all 11 pages. All I want to know is this-

Are you the expert at lacing the corset, or wearing it yourself?? I just have to ask, since everyone else has posted what I thought, which included the following-

1) There is nothing wrong with wanting a trophy wife. As long as she knows that your value that sort of thing and is okay with it.

2) Looks are important, I agree. The world judges you by your appearance, it is what it is. However sometimes a stronger person doesnt give a rats fuzzy butt what the world things, and operates on their own thoughts and feelings of themselves. There is nothing wrong with going to the store without mascara. Try it once or twice. Whats important is that you know how to put that mascara on when you need to look your best.

3) We are all here to learn from eachother. I think there is one more lesson here.




truesub4u -> RE: What Is It With Women...? (12/22/2005 11:08:28 PM)

11 pages later.... all i have to ask is this.... has your question been answered yet? Or are we women still that confusing to you?




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