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RE: Puzzled - 11/16/2008 7:39:47 AM   
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BoiJen wrote: I'm from GA originally. So I get the southern thing...it's also why I choose to (always have even before MsK) address D-type females as "MissSo-and-So" or strictly by their handles until otherwise invited. I also don't address D-type Females as "Mistress" for a similar reason.

I find it easier just to avoid the issue.  Many (probably most) Dommes dislike being addressed as Mistress, except by their own subs; many Dommes dislike being addressed as Ma'am (often saying it makes them feel old); many object to `Ms' and `Miss'.  There's no strong tradition of salutations in electronic communication so, if I'm sending an E-mail to a Domme I don't know, I'll just start in with what I want to say, just as in this post.  During the course of this post, I've not felt any need to put `, BoiJen' at the end of any of my sentences so there's no need to work out what term of address I should use for you when doing that (the fact that you're submissive is largely irrelevant, here).  If I did feel the need to use a salutation at the top of a mail to you, `BoiJen,' would do just fine.

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RE: Puzzled - 11/16/2008 8:07:06 AM   
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LadyConstanze wrote: I got a bunch of mails today, they addressed me as "Sweetie", "Sexy" or "Honey"

I should mention that, in my part of the world, Yorkshire, and probably in other parts of northern England, it is customary for people (especially those of about my parents' age) to address members of the opposite sex as `love'.  To many people, that might sound overly intimate but it isn't intended as being so in the same way that, for example, Australians address people as `mate' without necessarily meaning that they're their friend.

Obviously, this doesn't apply to `Sexy' but for some of the others, it could, in some cases, be a lack of cultural sensitivity rather than an attempt to be overly intimate.

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In Southern England, as you probably know, "love" is only used by old ladies (though to almost everyone).  Probably more alarming is the habit of very old westcountrymen of calling everyone who's younger, of either sex, "My lover".  (Or "my loverl", as it actually sounds.)

I've noticed Americans will use "love" and "sweetie" more often than they'll be used in the UK.  There's no diminutive connotation - I think.

By the way, did you think, like me, that undergroundsea was British at first?  I took that for granted when I first saw a post of his signed off with "Cheers".

I'm wondering, why aren't there more contributions from Australians to this thread?  Strange silence from down under on this subject, I feel.  



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RE: Puzzled - 11/16/2008 4:58:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I've noticed Americans will use "love" and "sweetie" more often than they'll be used in the UK. There's no diminutive connotation - I think.


IME, the only people in the US who say "love" are older folks or transplants.

"Sweetie" is contextual. I really hate when straight men who are not either family members or my boyfriend call me sweetie. I find it patronizing. Or it's part of some stupid come-on. (Maybe both!)

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RE: Puzzled - 11/16/2008 5:37:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		IME, the only people in the US who say "love" are older folks or transplants.
 
Hmmm.  Well, you'd obviously know Americans better than I, CW, but I have a teensy feeling that one or two of the fine ladies at CM might not want to go along with that!


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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 1:21:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will say that for my own part I will take his attempt to be nicely respectful without being fawning in the spirit he means it, and if "Ma'am" comes out easy and natural for him, well, I'll work with that fine, it's in the list of things I'm good with being called.

On the other hand, if I give you permission to IM me to discuss our respective positions and you start it out with "Hi, gorgeous", I'm going to probably start with the assumption that you don't REALLY want a mistress.

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:56:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		when i get emails that begin with "sweetie" or "love", i think the sender is too busy typing with one hand and wanking the monkey with the other.



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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 3:47:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most who have emailed me that used any of these terms were dominant males.  I feel they are trying to take me down a peg so they can actually feel better communicating with me, but I could be wrong and my ego blaring, but I don't care.  If they have a problem with intelligent women and need to feel better... so be it... it just won't fly with me.  I do love being old and cranky... it works better than that pms they typically blame things on.  I just reply with a hey sugar, read the rules on my profile.  Then of course they excuse themselves because that won't fly with them and I send them packing.

I don't think a submissive male has ever called me by a pet name in an email unless he had prior permission.

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 3:50:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose 'sugar lips' is straight out?

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:23:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlexandraLynch

I will say that for my own part I will take his attempt to be nicely respectful without being fawning in the spirit he means it, and if "Ma'am" comes out easy and natural for him, well, I'll work with that fine, it's in the list of things I'm good with being called.

On the other hand, if I give you permission to IM me to discuss our respective positions and you start it out with "Hi, gorgeous", I'm going to probably start with the assumption that you don't REALLY want a mistress.


Nooooo, *cringe* .  If I were feeling really devilish, not to mention inebriated, I might call you Alex - but then fully assume I'd not get a reply.  I don't do "Ma'ams" nor "gorgeouses" out of personal pride, never mind anything else.  One set of salutations is for my own domina, alone; the other is for my partner/domina at certain times, or very close female friends. Then, it's ordinarily "hon".  Never "baby" because I cannot stand that word.

< Message edited by PeonForHer -- 11/17/2008 4:29:07 PM >

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:24:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right, from now on, I'll email you with "O my Sublime Empress and True Queen" - would that be OK?

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:26:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, you're fine with "Sugar Lips", Ms S, if you forget my first name, as you frequently do.  I'll not take offence.

< Message edited by PeonForHer -- 11/17/2008 4:43:03 PM >

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:31:51 PM   
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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:35:59 PM   
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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:46:36 PM   
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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:49:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Simple Simon met a pie man going to the fair.
Said Simple Simon to the pie man, "Let me taste your ware."
Said the pie man to Simple Simon, "Show me first your penny."
Said Simple Simon to the pie man, "Sir I have not any."


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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:51:07 PM   
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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:52:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, dear PoliteSub... but I'd like to call you George.  

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:52:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		A discussion cropped up while you were away, Lockit, about stupid CM nicknames.   I expressed dismay that many had seen the connection between "Peon" and "pee on", but I hadn't.  Though, actually, the bit that's really irritating to me now is the "ForHer" part.  I mean, of course it's "For Her" - I'm a sub looking for a domina, FGS.  As so often, I look back at what I said and thought only six weeks ago and think "what a plonker".

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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:53:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, I just thought that plain "Peon" was taken... Probably is.

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Did I tell you the story of my first major 'BDSM Faux Pas?'  Just FYI - never ever ask a man who's nick is 'peon' to send you 'interesting photographs.'  *shudder*  What has been seen cannot be unseen.... even with eye bleach and steal wool.

(But it was not OUR PeonForHer... another one.  Ghod help me, I HOPE it was another one.)


< Message edited by MsStarlett -- 11/17/2008 4:55:45 PM >

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the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning,
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RE: Puzzled - 11/17/2008 4:54:55 PM   
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Simple Simon met a pie man going to the fair.
Said Simple Simon to the pie man, "Let me taste your ware."
Said the pie man to Simple Simon, "Show me first your penny."
Said Simple Simon to the pie man, "Sir I have not any."



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You, your children, and your children's children, shall have just cause to regret your words of this day.

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