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AAkasha -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/22/2008 12:40:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I bet you were hooked.  Whew.  [;)]


I still am.  I have nothing against hard blooded submissives, but there's something totally real about a man who has no interest in being bound, gagged & hurt but who willingly endures it because he realizes seeing me turned on is well worth the pain and humiliation.

Akasha




subexploring -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/22/2008 12:58:17 PM)

I'm not really interested in being involved with a woman if we don't kiss/make out -- actually, not too interested in being involved if she's not *highly enthusiastic* about that. (After appropriately getting to know each other, of course). Kissing is very emotionally intimate, more so than a lot of other explicitly sexual acts. And D/s without emotional intimacy...well, it can be sort of fun, but it's not really what I'm looking for at this point. Sigh. What a freak I am.

I haven't read this whole thread, so perhaps some things I said  have already been touched on.




sodsta -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/22/2008 2:21:17 PM)

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Ok... Am I the only one getting turned on (even slightly?) a the thought of working Sodsta into a really hot kiss then teaching him to do up, in and swirlies?


Mean lady :P




littlesarbonn -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/22/2008 7:22:52 PM)

Almost always, in any relationship I've been in, the woman has initiated kissing. A few times, I've been involved with a woman who has then decided she doesn't like to have to initiate the kissing, so she'll instruct me to do so in the future, and after a few awkward attempts, it will start to come naturally. I'm one of those geek writer/computer nerds so intimacy is always a bit awkward for me, at least until things start to settle into normalcy. 




E2Sweet -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/22/2008 9:59:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

What role does kissing play in your submission, subs?


Oh, I'd hate to hyper-analyze it. It always feels and tastes really good when its done with someone you are truly attracted to in the most basic human way, so why not indulge if the chemistry is there?

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Would you be disinterested in submitting to a woman who would never kiss you?


If the nature of the service is to include anything sexual, then absolutely I'd be put off. If she doesn't even want to put her lips on me why should I let her put her hands, whips, paddles, and bonds on me? That would seem odd at the very least...






ElanSubdued -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/25/2008 9:47:07 AM)

Akasha,

I've been very busy (with work) the last few weeks.  This said, given that this thread is about *kissing*, I've been wanting to reply.  My thoughts may be a tad scattered because I don't have time to sit down and "compose", but hopefully the gist comes through.

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MissIsis:
I never kiss my submissives.  It is not difficult at all, nor has it ever been a problem.


I'm not compatible with a Domme who won't kiss me.  As to who initiates, my partner does and so do I.  It's an organic thing that is difficult to put rules around and I have no desire to put rules around it anyway.  When I kiss someone, it's an at-the-moment, spontaneous, improvised, passionate way of communicating affection.  I don't plan it and asking permission kills the mood and spontaneity.  It's fun, from time-to-time or in certain circumstances, to have "you must ask" protocols in place.  However, as an ongoing, day-to-day dynamic in a relationship, I'm not fond of rules that preclude me communicating to my partner.  Kissing restrictions, for me, fall into a category of barriers/destructors that inhibit communication and intimacy.  I suppose I should add that friendship, romance, BDSM, play, intimacy, and love are all parts of a greater whole.  It is rare that I separate these in my relationships.

Ferns (who posted on page one) sums up my feelings on kissing, as follows:

"Kissing is like sex without the sex, the promise of sex, and sometimes better than sex, and every aspect of sex can be put into it, and every aspect of D/s can be expressed in it, and it's just just just...  Kissing is completely, utterly and hugely underrated!  It is like an obsession for me, kissing, oh, and mouths, god, mouths are just incredibly beautiful, and tactile, and soft, and wet, and mobile, and expressive, and altogether delicious.  Kissing *so* hits my buttons, all of them at once."

In the past, I attempted to write my own thoughts about kissing and they came out something like this:

"There is nothing so totally powerful, sensual, romantic, kinky, truly intimate, and mutually encompassing as lips and tongues intertwined.  To be ensconced in my partner's mind, mouth, and body...  to wrap myself around her, to blanket her inside my mouth and with my body, with love and affection... pure, mutual bliss.  To me, there is no form of physical affection that is more intimate.  Kissing can be soft, gentle, loving, hard, raw, wet, vicious, fast, slow, ravenous, and a myriad of other, tangible and intangible things.  It's hugely romantic and I'm a huge romantic at heart."

I'll defer to Ferns, once again, for the denouement:

"I want to get inside him through his mouth."

Is it just me or is it getting hot in here? :-)

Elan.




Politesub53 -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/25/2008 4:42:52 PM)

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"Kissing is like sex without the sex, the promise of sex, and sometimes better than sex, and every aspect of sex can be put into it, and every aspect of D/s can be expressed in it, and it's just just just...  Kissing is completely, utterly and hugely underrated!  It is like an obsession for me, kissing, oh, and mouths, god, mouths are just incredibly beautiful, and tactile, and soft, and wet, and mobile, and expressive, and altogether delicious.  Kissing *so* hits my buttons, all of them at once."


If I had to spend one night doing just one thing, this would win every time.




PeonForHer -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/25/2008 5:28:49 PM)

Kissing's for girls and softies.  Yuk.




ShaktiSama -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/25/2008 7:05:54 PM)

*sneaks up, pecks Peon on the cheek, and then giggles girlishly as he tries madly to scrub her cooties off*




aidan -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/25/2008 9:38:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Kissing's for girls and softies.  Yuk.


Well than size me up for a sundress and a helmet. ^_-

*hangs upside-down from the monkey bars and smooches Mistress' forehead*




Ferns -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 12:40:50 AM)

What Elan said...  no, wait... what Elan said AND what Elan said I said...

And yes, kind of hot in here... *phew*

Ferns




Vendaval -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 3:36:28 AM)

Hello AAkasha,
 
Kissing is very intimate to me and only shared with close partners in terms of mouth to mouth.  It is more about intimacy and less about dominance unless one of my guys is tied up and ready to roll.
 
I am Latina and greet family and close friends on the cheek with a hug and a kiss.  Plus I have spent years of my life in theatre and that is a very touchy-feely crowd.






MsStarlett -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 3:54:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sodsta

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Ok... Am I the only one getting turned on (even slightly?) a the thought of working Sodsta into a really hot kiss then teaching him to do up, in and swirlies?


Mean lady :P



Yeah.  I am. 

See?  I don't get off on manipulating men to do things like wear pink panties or have sex with other men.  I enjoy the art of seduction.  To just grab someone like Sodsta and force a kiss on you is no fun.  I have to make you WANT to do it... to get you to a point where you beg me to do it.  Like AAkasha making a man WANT to take a beating.  That's where the true heat is. 

And trust me, I know when a man is faking... so don't even start with the "I would never lick your ass" silliness.




MsStarlett -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 3:58:47 AM)

Oh damn, Elan!  When are you coming to see me?




PeonForHer -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 8:59:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

*sneaks up, pecks Peon on the cheek, and then giggles girlishly as he tries madly to scrub her cooties off*


Right, that's it: you're not in my gang anymore and you're not allowed in my treehouse either.




PeonForHer -> RE: Kissing. Who initiates? How intimate is it? Do you dominate a man you never kiss? (11/26/2008 9:14:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aidan

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Kissing's for girls and softies.  Yuk.


Well than size me up for a sundress and a helmet. ^_-

*hangs upside-down from the monkey bars and smooches Mistress' forehead*



About the only scene that I remember from Friends:
 
The girls are together and Rachel, "He kissed me last night."  The other two jump up and pull up chairs, one opens a bottle of wine and pours it.  "What was it like?" one asks.  "Did he gaze at you fondly first?"  The other asks, "did he sigh first, then lift up your chin?"  Then followed all manner of questions like, "Were his eyes open or closed?"  "Did he hold you around the waist, did he stroke your hair?"  Etc, etc, etc.  The scene carries on for a good five minutes.

Then the action pans to the boys.  The entire conversation about the same kissing event goes:

"Rachel and I kissed last night."
"Tongues?"
"Yep."
"Cool".

Made me titter anyway.




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