Noah -> RE: Straight Woman Blues (12/24/2005 11:34:47 PM)
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.... Perhaps you are looking for something/someone that's not appropriate to BDSM. In other words, maybe you are searching for your prince in the wrong neighborhood. ... My advise to you is consider where you are looking for a mate. This is a free website for people interested in alternative relationships with a bend toward BDSM. Perhaps you don't fully understand what that means, because you are clearly antagonistic about almost everything that those of us who are experienced take for granted. Honey, maybe you are just looking for a vanilla man who's got leadership qualities. There's nothing wrong with that. If I were you, I'd take some time and explore that. Lily i cannot imagine what on earth would make another person say "you live differently! you threaten my harmony! you must go!" i am truely sorry that Xmas Eve finds you in such distress. i hope the rest of your holidays are bettter. candystripper Candy this really goes beyond your usual level of both condescension and, well refusal to read what lies on the screen before you. Where, in the name of all that's holy--in that post full of "maybe" and "perhaps" and "consider" and "If I were you I'd take some time to explore" could any healthy person find: "you live differently! you threaten my harmony! you must go!" ? It just wasn't there, doll. And nothing vaguely resembling it was there. I posted at length, indicating clearly and explicitly over and over again that I accept your choices but I don't understand all of them and I asked for help in understanding. You did finally address the question by alluding to some dark secrets. You're entitled to those and to decline my request for help in understanding. But then you climbed back up on your cross with this: quote:
i am asking You to respect the value i assign to sexual orientation and monogamy; knowing i am not claiming i am better or that anyone should mimic me. i am asking You to respect me, as a member, even though we disagree. To borrow Lily's terminology, we are pledged to respect all kinks; that includes heterosexual monogamy. ... as if there was anything in my posts that evidenced anything but respect for the value you place on your gender orientation or on monogamy. I'm trained in rhetoric too. As well I'm trained and practiced in other modes of serious discourse which are not targetted to winning disputes but instead are targetted at approaching truth and mutual understanding. I find the latter very much preferable to the former You refuse even still to accept the dozens of affirmations offered to you in this thread, several from me alone; affirmations of your personal choices and your right to them. You come off as the founding father of The Society for the Prevention of Something That Was Never Happening In The First Place. i.e. marginalizing of heterosexual women. Are you being picked on for having two legs as well? It has become just terribly tiresome, Candy. I respect your lifestyle choices but your communication behavior in this community, including refusal to engage ingenuously with sincere people and your habitual condescension are not worthy of respect. Maybe you're just shitfaced drunk. That would explain why you typed "Noah" as "Neal". Or did someone tell you that Neal was my name and so you took it upon yourself to share this personal information without my permission? You certainly never saw that name in my profile or posts nor in any private communication from me to you. I won't confirm or deny rumors about my name but I'm glad to highlight behavior that runs directly contrary to the spirit of this community. I'd advise anyone who remains in contact with a person like this to guard carefully what information they share with her, assuming that it will be made public at her whim. quote:
But Neal, they are deeply personal, not fodder for the boards. If You can give me respect without having to analyse my motives, we're in business. If you're trying to out people while drunk, that's just deeply irresponsible. If you're outing people while sober then your behavior is reprehensible for other reasons. as for:quote:
This is where i will find my One. i did not make the decision lightly nor without a fully informed information store. Where does a person get a "fully informed information store" (whatever that is) about what will happen in the future? You don't know who he is but you know you will find him here? I'm wondering how a statement like this can be anything short of delusional but I don't care any more. I'm convinced that you don't value community--certainly not this one. The evidence is your refusal to accept affirmations offerred generously from numerous members, compounded by your propensity to put words in people's mouths which are quite contrary to the message the person was trying to share. Please se the top of this post for one of a persistent pattern of examples. I'm also convinced that you don't value truth. Your willingness to speak disingenuously for others counts here too, as does your unwillingness to face the truth that no one, absolutely no one has attacked your gender identification. Whatever comfort you take in your fanciful notion of being one of an imaginary class of oppressed women trumps your ability or willingness to see what confronts you plainly. I just don't know how to understand or communicate with someone in a stance that prefers illusion to truth and rejects earnest communication from anyone who tries to help you see a thing more clearly. I've never used the block feature here before but I think I can figure it out. I'm not a person who can see the future but I'm guessing that you will be pleased to find yourself in that quite exclusive position.
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