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rulemylife -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 2:25:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsMillgrove

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ORIGINAL: oddjobbery

well, i mean, how much older can you get than 42? :D

but seriously, the difference between a 42 year old and a 60 year old isn't even close to the difference between a 20 year old and a 38 year old. It's a step through three different worlds, to go from 20 to 38 - 42 to 60, not so much.



Great example of the bravado with which a young person will make a statement as though it's a fact everyone knows.  There are big differences between each decade of life, and you usually cannnot imagine what they're like until you get there yourself.



Your condescending reply to him is also a great example that age doesn't equate to wisdom or maturity. 




rulemylife -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 2:37:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sexisubi

i was mearly discribing the countless possiblities that could happen when one may be in a situation where age might be a factor. Picture this, you're 20, you bring home a man or woman that is 64 for thanksgiving, your mother is only 60... just for discussion sake, right now in your life... you have not established a career, a real good friend base, (except for that one friend you have from high school that still loves to call your cell phone just to talk about what you did at lunch almost a year ago.)

When thinking about relationships sometimes your real life must intertwin... if ones parents are getting older... and in some cercumstances less understanding, (not always the case) but if they want what is best for you there is nothing wrong with you making a choice to protect the ones you love, and who raised you from a baby, It's a sacrifice if you truely cared for the person don't you think? it also protects the person, taking them home as a suprise to mom and dad... might not be too keen unless you tell them thier age first. The shock on your mother face... well forget about cutting the turkey you'll be spending it in the hospital from her heart attack.


Your "real life" is whatever you determine it to be.

If you have personal preferences that exclude someone older or younger then that is your choice.

I guess letting other people's opinions dictate your decisions is your choice as well.

Myself, I'm not going to base my decisions or how I feel on what my family or friends may think or how they might react.




SomethingCatchy -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 4:04:58 AM)

Age matters to me. I can't take a 50 year old seriously when he says he wants to submit to someone 20 years or more his junior. I've also been 'hit on' by 40-60 year old men who are completely stupid and moronic, so I stay away from that age group like it's the plague. The 30's is pushing it. I realize it's the lack of quality that's doing it, but since these men are the majority (in vanilla and kink lifestyles), age is a huge factor. 




sexisubi -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 4:18:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Your "real life" is whatever you determine it to be.

If you have personal preferences that exclude someone older or younger then that is your choice.

I guess letting other people's opinions dictate your decisions is your choice as well.

Myself, I'm not going to base my decisions or how I feel on what my family or friends may think or how they might react.


Correct, so would you say it would be a negative thing for someone to do?




Venatrix -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 6:31:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: variation30

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Nothing quite like an immature middle-aged man, is there?

Edited to add:  John Derek, I meant [:D]


an immature man would've grovelled for her to stay.



I'm sure you speak from experience.




rulemylife -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 8:30:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sexisubi

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Your "real life" is whatever you determine it to be.

If you have personal preferences that exclude someone older or younger then that is your choice.

I guess letting other people's opinions dictate your decisions is your choice as well.

Myself, I'm not going to base my decisions or how I feel on what my family or friends may think or how they might react.


Correct, so would you say it would be a negative thing for someone to do?


yes 




hardbodysub -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 8:38:24 AM)

As everyone knows, nobody over 40 could possibly maintain a youthful physique, look much younger than their years, and be in any way attractive. It's just impossible, so nobody under 35 should even consider anyone over 40. Period.




LaTigresse -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 9:01:37 AM)

Age has never mattered one iota to me, in either choice of friends or partners. If anyone, family or friend, even comes close to making a snarky comment on such a trivial matter about my life choices, to my face........it will be the last time. Which is probably why none of them ever have.

Oh sure, I know some of my family just loves to dissect my personal life and the condition of my sanity behind my back.....but yanno, I've given up worrying about it. It's their problem, not mine.




IronBear -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 9:39:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: eri

18 and 60 are extreme examples. You knew that, though. Its just convient to pretend otherwise.

The point is, you're not really -that- different from older men who look for younger female submissives. Thats all.



And your point being? Do I hear the beginnings of a rant decrying older men having long term relationships with weomen half their age? I truely hope not but if so perhaps you should migrate to Australia the last bastion of such outrageous attitudes. Such age differences is acceptable in the UK generally, certainly in Europe where even aranged marriages between older men and young brides is still acceptable and done. The Middle East and Asia see it as preferable if not the norm. It has been perfectl;y acceptable certainly since there were a generation of young brides married to elderly servicemen from the civil war and to whom the US Army paid pensions to even young women after their husbands had died.

Happily I am 63 and my wife (Lady Neets or Neets) is 33. That we are both dominant has no bearing at all. Several organizations including the SCA cold shouldered us out due to our age difference but such things stopped after it was found that I sucessfully sued several organizations under both state and federal discrimination laws.. My preference for slaves is 30+. Thus a girl or lad is not necessarily too diffenent in age with Neets and those closer to my age will have a youthfull outlook. Essentially as long as someone fits in with our home and its dynamic he or she have one foot in nthe door and ready for serious discussions.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 9:47:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

As everyone knows, nobody over 40 could possibly maintain a youthful physique, look much younger than their years, and be in any way attractive. It's just impossible, so nobody under 35 should even consider anyone over 40. Period.


I love a wonderfully ironic reference.  This was priceless.  [:D]




IronBear -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 10:02:12 AM)

I am reminded of the yarn about the retired wealthy couple both in their 60's here on the Gold Coast. Tjhe wife suprised all her friends with her chearfull manner after her husband ran off with an 18 year old floozy. "Well she commented looking at the pool boy at her mansion, it's all in the maths. 20 goes into 60 more times the 60 goes into 18!"  Q.E.D.!




oddjobbery -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 11:40:18 AM)

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Great example of the bravado with which a young person will make a statement as though it's a fact everyone knows. There are big differences between each decade of life, and you usually cannnot imagine what they're like until
you get there yourself.


Ms. Millgrove, the hypocrisy of your statement astounds. You accuse me of making sweeping generalizations (which I did not) and then make a sweeping generalization yourself. No fault, though - I understand that you think time makes experience - I just don't agree.

In any case,

Of course there are big differences between each decade of life - I have no doubt that it's a viciously difficult thing to learn that your body is failing you, that the younger generation is pushing you into oblivion, that the life you've lived is not the life you planned, that your regrets outweigh your successes, etc. I just doubt that you remember the extraordinary change that the youth experience.

You see (and I'm sure, now that I'm telling you, you'll remember) the life I'm leading has no routine. It has no sureties. It changes day to day to day to day - the changes you go through, the failings of your body, whatever - they are nothing as compared to what I and the millions other like me experience every day. Do you know how to use a debit card? Because I didn't up until a year and a half ago. Do you know what it's like to have sex with a woman for the first time? Because I didn't, up until 4 years ago. do you know what it's like to have your first drink? Because I didn't, up until two years ago. Do you know what it's like to feel love for someone other than your family for the first time? Because I didn't, up until three years ago. Do you know what it's like to realize race means something to people for the first time? That there are people not like you? That there are hurt, sick people in the world that no one will save? Because I didn't. And now I do. I look to the past and see that my life has gone through more stages than I thought was possible - and almost all in my teen years.

A thirteen year old and a fifteen year old cannot relate, except about the constant change they experience. A sixteen year old and an eighteen year old cannot relate, except about the fluctuating nature of life. An eighteen year old and a 22 year old are not even similar - and don't get me started on 22 and 24, or even 24 and 28. What you seem to have forgotten is that sure, life changes from decade to decade as you age - but only so much.

There is only so much in your world that you can learn - and you learn the majority of it in your youth. When I said three worlds, I understated immensely - it's more like three thousand. The difference between a 42 year old and a 60 year old is this - one is in the beginning of watching his children grow up, and the other is at the end. The difference between a 20 year old and a 38 year old, suffice to say, is not.




oddjobbery -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 11:49:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

As everyone knows, nobody over 40 could possibly maintain a youthful physique, look much younger than their years, and be in any way attractive. It's just impossible, so nobody under 35 should even consider anyone over 40. Period.



Frankly, I would say that no one over the age of 30 can maintain a youthful (note: this does not mean attractive) physique. At some point in your life you stop being a kid - and it's well before 40. Probably well before 30, too.




LaTigresse -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:06:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: oddjobbery

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

As everyone knows, nobody over 40 could possibly maintain a youthful physique, look much younger than their years, and be in any way attractive. It's just impossible, so nobody under 35 should even consider anyone over 40. Period.



Frankly, I would say that no one over the age of 30 can maintain a youthful (note: this does not mean attractive) physique. At some point in your life you stop being a kid - and it's well before 40. Probably well before 30, too.



Ohhhhhh you are so naive!




oddjobbery -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:08:40 PM)

You think anyone over the age of 30 looks like me? Because I don't.




LaTigresse -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:09:26 PM)

How many under 30 look like you? Have you a twin?

In all seriousness and not to be snarky at all, but I know a male, age 46, that has a much better physique than you. I am sure he could probably run circles around you also. I can also find many young women your age I could put to shame......if that was my game. It's not. I tend to look beyond the shell.

But, that wasn't what I implied in my prior post. What I implied is that regardless to our physical pluses or minuses it is what is inside that is either youthful or not.




colouredin -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:09:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: colouredin


I know age is a factor for me because I would want to be able to introduce my partner to my family and the older the person is the harder that would be. I talk to people of all ages, age doesnt really make a differance in connection for me, I have always spent time with older people so Im pretty adaptable.


So then we can conclude that the most important factor in choosing a partner for you is what other people think and whether your choice would embarrass you because of their disapproval.


Yup




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:10:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: oddjobbery

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

As everyone knows, nobody over 40 could possibly maintain a youthful physique, look much younger than their years, and be in any way attractive. It's just impossible, so nobody under 35 should even consider anyone over 40. Period.



Frankly, I would say that no one over the age of 30 can maintain a youthful (note: this does not mean attractive) physique. At some point in your life you stop being a kid - and it's well before 40. Probably well before 30, too.



Ohhhhhh you are so naive!



Puppys wet behind the ears that has no idea what sexy truly is. just you wait boy.

edited to say:This picture to the left is me in 2006 at the age of 44. Pretty youthful for an old broad.




Aynne88 -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:11:54 PM)

Not a clue lushy....lol. Mrs. Robinson would have killed this little pup. Silly boy. [;)] 




Aynne88 -> RE: Age and BDSM (11/25/2008 12:13:38 PM)

Hope not. No offense but I like my men with some muscles, facial hair, and distinguishing characteristics of sexy adult men. [&:]



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ORIGINAL: oddjobbery

You think anyone over the age of 30 looks like me? Because I don't.





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