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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:04:45 AM

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As usual, waiting on your evidence, cl.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:12:07 AM

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As usual, waiting on your evidence, cl.

A $7.6 trillion bailout of Wall Street fuckups and you aren't alarmed?

If current events aren't sufficient evidence for you, then I can't imagine what evidence would persuade you.

At what point will you consider government to be your enemy and not your friend?

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:19:28 AM

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So until this point, you were happy?

I'm no fan of the bailout. It was another Bush "We must act immediately emergency" sold to Congress.

But responding in kind is no smarter.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:28:17 AM

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It was another Bush "We must act immediately emergency" sold to Congress.

And yet people claim Bush is an idiot. So how does the idiot constantly hoodwink 535 people--especially that preternaturally enlightened bunch commonly referred to as Democrats, who "everyone knows" is way smarter than Bush or anyone who even contemplates voting Republican?

Congress authored the bailout, Congress voted on the bailout, your sainted sinless spineless Dear Leader voted on the bailout.

If it's a con job by Bush on Congress, that's enough reason to be alarmed. If Congress wasn't conned, but was a willing participant in this exercise in government excess, that's an even better reason to be alarmed. Regardless of the precise nature of the back-office machinery that produced the bailout, there's plenty of reason to be alarmed.

$7.6 Trillion of taxpayer bailout of Wall Street stupidity is more than enough reason to be alarmed.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:28:57 AM

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And still the dance around the point.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:35:44 AM

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And still the dance around the point.

No, because being alarmed IS the point. Not dismissing ideas that come from outside the ordained "mainstream media" because they clash with the official "truth" is the point. Stopping to consider that perhaps the "playing" of people comes from the mainstream and not from those outside the mainstream is the point.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 11:37:14 AM

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And the evidence?

As noted elsewhere, as you never provide it, I'm done wasting time with you.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 1:55:40 PM

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But, I wanted Pastrami with my ham sandwich!!!!!!!!....now I my day is ruined....thanks rex!

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 2:06:06 PM

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But, I wanted Pastrami with my ham sandwich!!!!!!!!....now I my day is ruined....thanks rex!

Pastrami with ham???????????

If that's not a hanging offense, it should be.......

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 3:59:46 PM

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the congress totally bit our hands! that is a good question, how does one scam the congress.

bloomburg is sueing the fed res under FOIA, to learn the details of the so-called transparent use of bail out $.

how is it that so many need this or a sim bail out? some this is the 2nd time around too.

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On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous. /snip

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 4:16:27 PM

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in that case, I will buy all of your coins (quarters, dimes, 1/2 dollar and dollar) that are pre 1965. Ill even give you 10% more then face, and I will pay shipping.

I will take that deal.

allrighty.

double check to be certain the dates are correct, and let me know how much you wish to part with. (face + 10% pre 1965)

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 4:24:48 PM

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one problem is that hardly anyone knows what the fed res is.

What complete nonsense.

The Fed, its shareholders, its purpose, its oversight---all are perfectly clear.

Instead, you've drawn your warnings from a Baptist minister and Rush Limbaugh, both clearly major experts in the financial/economic world. Then you add yet another prosperity prospect.

These alarmist financial sites are PLAYING you (and certainly not just you) for their own gain.

Or do you suppose they take a break from their financial empires from a philanthropic impulse to spread the wealth?

purpose is clear?    hmm.

maybe I am being played, fine. but that does not negate the fact that the fed is shortchanging the country out of what is rightfully the property of the people.

I dont know what a babtist minister or ruch limbaugh have to do with the fed being great for the public good.

what exactly IS the feds purpose?    in 2008 it has been to ask for 11 bail outs.   someone in the end, is actually expected to pay cash money for these bail outs.   I am floored that you even defend the fed. So you think the US really is a free country?

we were broke in 1980. I doubt we are any less broke in 2008.     (irregardless as to who I happen to websurf and cite here)

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/28/2008 5:22:08 PM

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one problem is that hardly anyone knows what the fed res is.

What complete nonsense.

The Fed, its shareholders, its purpose, its oversight---all are perfectly clear.

Instead, you've drawn your warnings from a Baptist minister and Rush Limbaugh, both clearly major experts in the financial/economic world. Then you add yet another prosperity prospect.

These alarmist financial sites are PLAYING you (and certainly not just you) for their own gain.

Or do you suppose they take a break from their financial empires from a philanthropic impulse to spread the wealth?

purpose is clear?    hmm.

maybe I am being played, fine. but that does not negate the fact that the fed is shortchanging the country out of what is rightfully the property of the people.

I dont know what a babtist minister or ruch limbaugh have to do with the fed being great for the public good.

what exactly IS the feds purpose?    in 2008 it has been to ask for 11 bail outs.   someone in the end, is actually expected to pay cash money for these bail outs.   I am floored that you even defend the fed. So you think the US really is a free country?

we were broke in 1980. I doubt we are any less broke in 2008.     (irregardless as to who I happen to websurf and cite here)

As far as i see there is only one reason you go off a standard like gold or silver. So you can print more than you actually have in gold or silver. Which has gotten us to this point.

Brokers and hedge funds go around naked short selling stocks, causing companies stocks to be run into the ground. Why can a hedge fund sell something it does not even own. And not just once but over and over again. You cant sell cars you don't own and 6 or 7 car dealer can't sell the same shares that none of them actually have.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 4:48:08 AM

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I really just wanted the Pastrami but was affraid I was off topic.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 5:24:40 AM

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hello 404,

precisely. I can not sell you a house that I do not own. I can not take out insurance on a house I do not own.

all that needs to happen is a small issue of currency backed by silver. the COMEX is about to go nuts. people know that the powerful are shorting the metals...so peoples are going to take delivery of the contracts in december.

simply put- the globe is no longer funding our sorry ass. who will make good on the check? WHO?

the fed is stripping the broken down car of all the good parts before the car goes to the junkyard.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 8:56:28 AM

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I really just wanted the Pastrami but was affraid I was off topic.

You can have ham, or you can have Pastrami, just not both in the same sandwich. (Not if you want to be allowed back in any "twue" deli, that is)

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 11:36:46 AM

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Well then...I'll have the Pastrami...thanks CL!

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 11:42:26 AM

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put some [$$$$] in comidities such as petrolium and shift a lil to metals

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 12:52:16 PM

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put some [$$$$] in comidities such as petrolium and shift a lil to metals

my friend Jenny runs a food bank. some food is donated, and some is per govt grant. anyhow- they cut down how often they order due to costs. This week she went to make up her order. The amount of funds did not change. However- rice is not on the list of allowed items. Hotdogs went up so much so- that it is that item or skip that - so that there are canned goods.   she is thfity with money... so the increase in cost has hit that vendor.

gold or silver doesnt really go up, but it does hold its value. so the next increase wont so much be the gold going up, but the purchasing power of the dollar declining.

you can not go wrong by having a well stocked pantry.   the market is good at the moment- we usually get what they call a santa clauss rally.

I dont know why people are so sure we wont see an "amero" currency. I heard a rumour that hundred dollar notes will be frozen.

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RE: H.R2755, Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act - 11/29/2008 3:03:41 PM

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The whole "amero" thing is a myth, and that's been said many times in this forum.

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