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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR

While I agree that the constitution gives us "the right to bear arms", nowhere does the constitution define "arms" as handguns and rifles (automatic or otherwise). That can just as easily mean bow & arrow, sword, knife, baseball bat, etc.....

I am not trying to strip away anyone's right to own a legally registered gun. However, to me it seems prudent to do away with handguns, while providing exceptions for individuals such as police and other high risk professions. If you consider yourself a sportsman and want to hunt, great! go for it, but there is no conceivable reason for the average person to own handguns. It may take 10-20 years to reduce the supply but, if you eliminate handguns from society, you will eventually see a dramatic decline in violent crime.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval
The full report on this situation is not finished but here are initial interviews from some witnesses at the scene from a local TV station, KCAL.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10880992&src=news

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ORIGINAL: Raechard
Would it make you feel different if the assailant had a permit and acted in a moment of madness? We’ve all experienced road rage drivers endangering our lives because they feel invincible with a car why wouldn't the same happen with a gun, seems logical to me.

The problem is all people that do this are portrayed as cold hearted criminals rather than normal individuals that temporarily lose their sanity.

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An incident at this year's Fourth of July celebration in Rochester brought the issue of handgun permits back into the headlines. A 25-year-old man with a permit to carry a handgun is accused of pulling out a handgun while thousands gathered at Silver Lake for the fireworks show. The man told authorities he was concerned about a car driving through the crowd and thought it had hit someone before striking a tree. He since has been charged with a gross misdemeanor of dangerous weapons -- intentionally pointing a gun.

Should residents be concerned about handgun permit holders? Local authorities say no. Rochester Police Chief Roger Peterson said the July Fourth incident is the only case he can recall since the law was passed where a crime was linked to the handgun permit law.

"I think the fears and concerns didn't materialize, and I don't think (the law) has had a significant impact on crime, frankly, one way or the other," Peterson said.

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ORIGINAL: Evility
It never ceases to amaze me that gun control advocates do not understand that those who break the law with handguns now will continue to break the law with handguns after you take them away from the rest of us. 

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ORIGINAL: MmeGigs

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ORIGINAL: Evility
It never ceases to amaze me that gun control advocates do not understand that those who break the law with handguns now will continue to break the law with handguns after you take them away from the rest of us. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many folks who are for gun rights are so blindered about it that they won't admit that there are some issues with guns.  Accepting that there are problems that need to be addressed is not the same as saying that guns should be banned. 

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that there are some issues with guns

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if you eliminate handguns from society, you will eventually see a dramatic decline in violent crime.

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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that there are some issues with guns

There are no issues with guns.  The issues are always with the people.  Misdirecting attention away from the real problem (the people) to the non-problem (the guns) is foolish, foolhardy, counterproductive, and, worst of all, an unconscionable and unconstitutional attack on civil rights and civil liberties.

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And an armed society is civil because everybodies gonna be dead because, your gonna make sure that the ones who shouldn't own a gun, who don't have guns gets one.

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because you get people who's guns are their balls and just start shooting away.

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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And an armed society is civil because everybodies gonna be dead because, your gonna make sure that the ones who shouldn't own a gun, who don't have guns gets one.

There is no one whom should not own a gun.  Short of buying the guns myself and giving them to the unarmed, yes, I encourage everyone to keep and bear arms--and use them if they feel the need.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboy291

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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And an armed society is civil because everybodies gonna be dead because, your gonna make sure that the ones who shouldn't own a gun, who don't have guns gets one.

There is no one whom should not own a gun.  Short of buying the guns myself and giving them to the unarmed, yes, I encourage everyone to keep and bear arms--and use them if they feel the need.

YOU WANT THE CRIMINALLY INSANE TO OWN GUNS!!!!!!!

This isn't about protection or anything like.

This is  blind ideology.  You can't look past a gunbarrel and realize just what an incredbibly BAD idea it is to have EVERYONE armed.  Because then as I said, youre making the wrong type of person who may not have had a gun before have one.

Okay, I hope it does  happen and one day you get your head blown off by some lunatic who doesen't share your incredibly naive viewpoint. 

There are MANY types of people who should NEVER EVER have a gun.  But your thinking in ideological rather than rational terms. 

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: slaveboy291
your gonna have confrontations ... ending with a high-noon shootout because you get people who's guns are their balls and just start shooting away.

Well, them are not christians, so that is their bad fortune. That is natural selection.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

So who got the toy?