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pompeii -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 10:35:42 AM)

Aftercare, for me, is I untie her and kiss and caress her, and she, in turn, puts my limp cock in her mouth to keep it warm & moist while I enjoy looking at her.




kyraofMists -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 10:43:24 AM)

My idea of the perfect aftercare, especially after play that has left small breaks in the skin all over my back, is for him to rub in Lakota deep heat and then put on my heavy cloak.  It sets my back on fire and it is nice to just float off and relax. 

Knight's Kyra




Focus50 -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 11:08:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: khalya

]O hun, you have got to change that. You need aftercare, especially after a  hard scene



BULLSHIT!!!  some people need little or no aftercare after any type of scene.  Don't paint everyone with your brush.  Often times the aftercare my girls get or want is... laying them off to the side until the feel like getting up again.  I don't have much to do with them.. in fact often... I am playing one as the other is just sitting there watching the scene.

what people need is not aftercare... what they need is what they need!  Which may be little or not or alot... it's all very subjective to the individuals involved.


editted to add... I went back and finished reading the thread... I was amused on how many called you on your bullshit comment. 

Bullshit comment???  I'm equally amused how you've gone all hyper-anal over an otherwise harmless personal opinion - no flies around to nuke?  Or maybe you just need post-posting aftercare more than you'd ever admit.  Sure looks like you need something....  ;-) 
 
Focus.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 11:23:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: khalya
O hun, you have got to change that. You need aftercare, especially after a  hard scene

Telling people what they need for themselves and what they need to change in their own lives is not a good way to make yourself appear open to differences and encouraging of people doing what works best for them.

Now, sometimes people do need to change things and don't have a clue what they need- but you're making a bold statement on not a lot of info.  Many people do not need aftercare, do not desire aftercare and it would be wrong to tell them they they just don't know what's best for them.




mistoferin -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 11:26:13 AM)

I'm finding that my aftercare needs have been changing some lately, depending on the scene and where we are at. At home our scenes usually involve sex...and after those scenes I love to be able to just cuddle in his arms as I come back, lay there talking and drift off to sleep. When we are out at a play party though, I used to enjoy the blankets and some cuddle time. Recently I have noticed a shift, especially when we do heavier scenes. The blankets and being enveloped in his arms seems to be becoming almost an annoying feeling. What I really want is 2 ice cold bottles of water. One of them gets consumed in 1 long drink. Then I like to get up and drink the other while I'm getting my land legs back. Not sure what has triggered the change but lately he will tell me to just sit there for a minute and I'm like "I'm okay, I'm okay", feeling really energized and ready to go chow on some fruit.




KnightofMists -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:03:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

Sure looks like you need something....  ;-) 
 
Focus.


aaaaaaww does the little boy focus want to play.  how amusing it is when little boys play




moonvine -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:10:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aravain

Hmmm, maybe she doesn't (or provides her own)?

I'll withhold judgement till she responds, but I don't want aftercare after someone's hit me! I will provide any stimulation to promote more blood flow and other things myself. I'll cuddle and do the lovey-dovey stuff after I've done that.



Not to get into the tired discussion of wants vs. needs, but yes I would prefer aftercare.  It seems many dominants do not think about it, at least not in my experience.  My first dominant did, but he was trained by someone very very experienced.




aravain -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:12:05 PM)

Interesting... personally I wouldn't (and don't usually) want it directly after a scene. I'm not 100% sure why.




KnightofMists -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:17:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: moonvine

Not to get into the tired discussion of wants vs. needs, but yes I would prefer aftercare.  It seems many dominants do not think about it, at least not in my experience.  My first dominant did, but he was trained by someone very very experienced.



to me this is not a training issue... this is a character issue.  A person that is appreciative, respectful, considerate etc etc etc will consider what another person needs/wants in their experiences and/or relationship with another.  When a person lacks these positive aspects.... not amount of "training" is going to make a difference to a person that lacks those characteristics. 




hopelessfool -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:20:26 PM)

what i get a giggle at is, the comment ' oh hun you gotta change that" was right in line with what the person WANTED. Sure she believes after care is needed. To me aftercare can be 4 million things, so anything you give After, in the form of ANY type of caring works. Be it ignoring, cuddling or what have you.

whats even more amusing is how everyones going oh no I dont simply because she gave her opinion..

Btw I love the snuggles after a scene, and ususally after it im asked what it is i need, be it water alone time or cuddle usually its all three... but then... im spoilt ^_^




KnightofMists -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:23:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Not sure what has triggered the change but lately he will tell me to just sit there for a minute and I'm like "I'm okay, I'm okay", feeling really energized and ready to go chow on some fruit.


as a thougth... It must might be a question of personal security in the relationship.  I have found that often aftercare is about reassurances that we are ok as a relationship.  Particularly in a public venue... people not only feel those issues... but they in a subtle way feel the look or watch of others.  When people become more comfortable in the dynamic and secure.. they tend to not care what other's preceptions are... positively or negatively.  I also find that in private play.. we tend to want to savory things more intimately and thus cuddling etc are more common in a private way.  I believe alot of these changes of behavior are not conscious choices but subtle changes that grow over time as the people in the relationship slowly intertwine as one.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:23:30 PM)

Also to say that choosing not to provide aftercare, sometimes or all the time, is not a character flaw or shows any particular lacking.  Some tops/doms just don't like it, just don't want it, or sometimes it would actually ruin the scene if he/she was there afterwards being all cuddly and lovey.  There are certainly some scenes I've done that aftecare would have been silly, unnecessary, undesired or just flat out pointless. 

Choosing not to provide aftercare is not a negative aspect of a person.  I find it's usually bottoms who decide "he sucks because he won't give him the aftercare I needed even though I chose to play with him without establishing what I would need" more often than not.




KnightofMists -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:29:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Also to say that choosing not to provide aftercare, sometimes or all the time, is not a character flaw or shows any particular lacking.  Some tops/doms just don't like it, just don't want it, or sometimes it would actually ruin the scene if he/she was there afterwards being all cuddly and lovey.  There are certainly some scenes I've done that aftecare would have been silly, unnecessary, undesired or just flat out pointless. 

Choosing not to provide aftercare is not a negative aspect of a person.  I find it's usually bottoms who decide "he sucks because he won't give him the aftercare I needed even though I chose to play with him without establishing what I would need" more often than not.


I agree... it not the behavior specifically ... it's the intentions and motivations of the people involved that lead to the behaviors we see.  Unfortunately... to often people make judgements solely on the behavior seen and no knowledge of the motivations that are driving these behaviors.

For example sometimes the Tops afercare is driven by guilt/remorse for the actions done to the bottom.  While sometimes a Tops (such as the OP) finds internalize pleasure for doing the aftercare.  In both situations we might very much see the same behaviors... but the motivations are significantly different as such our judgement of them will lead us down different paths.




NuevaVida -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:36:54 PM)

My former owner was not a provider of aftercare, although I craved it. I learned to provide it for myself, to spare him something that he was uncomfortable with. Over time, he began providing it more. Both of us came to understand the other's preferences and met in the middle somewhere.

The man I'm seeing now, well, our whole time together feels like "aftercare." Whether we continue forward or not remains to be seen but I have learned how scrumptious it feels and want that in my future. For me it's just yum.




ThundersCry -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:38:37 PM)

And I thought just walking her to the car was...enough...
 
Darn...




moonvine -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:43:05 PM)

But what if they just *don't know*?  Aftercare isn't really covered in BDSM porn, which I think is where most people get their start (maybe not, as I've not performed a survey of "most people.")  I'm not the most help at telling them as all I really know for sure is that if I'm in an altered state I'm not going to do a great job of cock sucking.                                                                




NuevaVida -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:49:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: moonvine

But what if they just *don't know*?  Aftercare isn't really covered in BDSM porn, which I think is where most people get their start (maybe not, as I've not performed a survey of "most people.")  I'm not the most help at telling them as all I really know for sure is that if I'm in an altered state I'm not going to do a great job of cock sucking.                                                                



Talk about it beforehand. And after play cock sucking really can be a soothing experience. With my former owner, it was a nice connection afterward. He relaxed and I pacified myself.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:50:37 PM)

Correction. Not everybody needs the same thing as others after hard play. What she may or may not need won't always mirror what "every one " needs.
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ORIGINAL: khalya

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ORIGINAL: moonvine

I rarely get much in the way of aftercare.  


O hun, you have got to change that. You need aftercare, especially after a  hard scene






Aileen1968 -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:55:33 PM)

I get before care, during care and after care.   It's not romantic and mushy.   I would hate that and it's not his personality.  I get touched physically and he talks to me.  The talking part seems to be the most important aspect for me.  Who woulda thunk it.  [:)]  It keeps my head level.
After being in relationships that had no kind of care whatsoever, I'll take the caring kind any day of the week.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene!!! (11/29/2008 12:58:07 PM)

Well then pick Dominants who match your needs better and will give you the aftercare you want.



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ORIGINAL: moonvine



I would prefer aftercare, what I generally get is "now give me a blowjob."





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