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Address Dress - 12/26/2005 3:00:03 AM   
willing2serve


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Status: offline 		Did you ever have to address the subject of dress?
Did your submissive's dress have to change to meet your expectations?


This post is coming from two thoughts...

One, on a previous thread that got off topic, the subject of how a submissive dresses came up. I have a passionate belief that women should look their absolute best every day. It was the opinion of some from the other topic as long as one is clean, matching and appearance didnt matter. I won't get on my soapbox again about this one (smile)

Secondly, before my Master found me, I was meeting several Doms and looking back now, it's really hillarious, most would ask that i wear a black skirt and white blouse...Is this the sub uniform of choice? *s*

Dress has never been an issue in my relationship with my Master. My career and life require that i wear dresses, suits and heels daily. I own no jeans out of preference and tennis shoes and sweats for me are only appropriate at the gym.

As far as dress is concerned, the only thing Master changed or requires is that i am accessible to him at all times. I am no way indicating all D/s relationships should be patterned this way. This is just O/our way and stating, Master expected nothing different from me because i met his expectations in dress beforehand.

So, with these thoughts in mind, I'm curious if dress has been an issue in your relationship.

Respectfully,
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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 4:17:26 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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Status: offline 		Yes Dressing appropriate for him is one of his desires . He wrote down his expectations/rules for me and it included the way i am to dress.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 4:19:37 AM   
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He wrote down his expectations/rules for me and it included the way i am to dress.


Did this require a significant amount of change on your part?

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 4:37:15 AM   
Focus50


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Status: offline 		Every woman I've ever known or dated has a full variety of clothes - ie, clothes I love and clothes I loathe....

I mostly prefer my girl in dresses but I also appreciate that jeans do show off a very spankable butt, too! And I always notice a shapely butt when out and about....

Now I'm not well versed in the descriptive terms for female apparrel beyond dresses, blouses and pants etc but I do know what I like and what I don't when I see it and it rarely has anything to do with whatever the current fashion is! Indeed, I'm very conscious that even the material clothing is made of is important to me; when I hold her, I much prefer the feel of a soft cotton to some petroleum product, for instance.

She has specific dress rules for when we're together but every sub I've had quickly picks up on what I like and has dressed accordingly. And she is allowed to wear what she desires when I'm not there, even something she knows I dislike.

I'll be my most specific what she wears (including nothing at all) when we have privacy and depending on what dynamic I wish created....

And I've noticed subs seem their most content when I specifically choose something for her to wear when going out as it's obviously an act of pleasing and serving in doing so....

Focus.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 5:49:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		A great question! Yes, I do pay attention to and redirect dress as well as grooming habits---Most men are clueless about cologne, bath soap, shampoo smells--I always start there---I create the scent and aura that I want---something I like but works well with the body chemistry---I then teach cologne placement--men too often splash and that's it--I like a hint of scent wherever I chose to place My nose and face --

Clothes--I start with underwear--the person who invented boxers should be hung in them, I also choose colors--I want to see a nice butt, shaped well and in colors I like--

There are also certain outfits I will choose for specific occasions--to fit My mood--a good sub will learn My preferences quickly--after all it is those preferences that raise My kink factor--My favorite is naked with merely a thong or a cock harness---mmmm--smiles

oh sorry drifted off there---<wicked grins>

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 7:31:30 AM   
MstrssPassion


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Status: offline 		I have redirected a male sub's attire on many occasions. Most times it was the type of attire I wished them to wear in public or at social gatherings (some fetish, some completely vanilla). Men, in general, don't place much thought in their clothing choices. They also face restrictions of choice because men's clothing in general can be rather boring.

Women have many styles, colors & fabrics to chose from. This alone is a big reason why many men explore cross-dressing, but that is another subject.

My current submissive is female & she already dressed very nicely, but I have been making subtle changes. The results are wonderful & she receives compliments on a regular basis.

I myself wear everything from Florida beach bum to red carpet formal. It really depends on the occasion. It would be rather silly to show up at a beach BBQ wearing Jean Paul Gaultier.

I use guiding tactics. My belief is that a submissive must function, react & grow in directions that are natural for them. I do not believe that an individual that is placed in a position of conformity will respond to training in a positive way. Conformity promotes tension, tension promotes negative emotions, negative emotions promotes hostility & hostility promotes yet another flaming outburst from yet another self-identifying "abused submissive".

& again... that is an entirely different subject.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 7:36:10 AM   
IrishMist


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Status: offline 		LOL Willing...you already know my preferences

I am so laid back that at home,you will not find me in anything but jeans, tshirts, and tank tops...even in the winter months. Now granted, because of where I work, I am required to wear dresses, blouses, skirts, heels, etc. I hate makeup, so getting me to put some on is a fight and a half. At work, my hair is always braided, but mainly because I just can't think of anything else to do with it...but once home, it goes in a pony tail lol.

I have met others for the first time, and asked them what they would like to see me in ( they always already know what my preferences are ), and most have replied 'whatever you feel most comfortable in'...which always ends with me in jeans lol. I take them at their word on that .

When I was married, I was neve required to wear anything special, but I did go out of my way not to always be in jeans. I would throw on the occassional pretty dress or skirt for around the house...and yes, he always liked it better when I dressed part way up lol.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 9:08:39 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2serve
Did you ever have to address the subject of dress?

Occasionally. Mostly they will give me general guidelines and let me go to it. Sometimes I give them a few different selections to choose from.
quote:


Did your submissive's dress have to change to meet your expectations?

Nope. I have far better fashion sense than any of my current partners. And I can't see anyone wanting to take the time and energy to know my wardrobe to the point that I do to be able to use it effectively.

With my partners they will occasionally ask ME for fashion advice, and I will occasionally give them pointers on how to dress. But they already know the basic rules and how to present themselves in a variety of situations well.

Lots of doms and subs like the micro managing and direct control aspect of having clothes chosen. Unfortunately very few doms know how to dress subs better than the subs do and end up with a look that's not at all ideal. But as long as they are happy with it, that's what matters.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 9:41:05 AM   
Nendarye


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Status: offline 		Hm, Master always required that I look my absolute best, no matter what I was wearing. He did perfer skirts and dresses though, and not because it was 'easy access', but because he liked to see my legs <g>

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 9:48:50 AM   
Kinkypupper


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Status: offline 		Yes I do dictate in general what she is to wear.
I do not micromanage her, but she knows if she wears something not allowed it maybe torn off her and burned.
She is not allowed underwear nor the dreaded item "pantyhose",She is allowed to wear jeans/sweats but only after asking or being told to for a specific reason (working in the yard for example)
I prefer short skirts or front button skirts so she is totally accessable at all times.
Bras. She is allowed some but they are mostly shelf type bras.
As she maybe working for a while out of the home Her style of dress will be dictated by her work requirements But pants and underwear will NOT be allowed.
I am not totally unreasonable and most of the skirts she wears during winter are long, But I am considering cutting out the pockets in some :-)



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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 9:54:31 AM   
IrishMist


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But I am considering cutting out the pockets in some :-)


LOL oh you wicked, wicked man


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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 12:37:38 PM   
Wildfleurs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2serve

Did you ever have to address the subject of dress?
Did your submissive's dress have to change to meet your expectations?


This post is coming from two thoughts...

One, on a previous thread that got off topic, the subject of how a submissive dresses came up. I have a passionate belief that women should look their absolute best every day. It was the opinion of some from the other topic as long as one is clean, matching and appearance didnt matter. I won't get on my soapbox again about this one (smile)

Secondly, before my Master found me, I was meeting several Doms and looking back now, it's really hillarious, most would ask that i wear a black skirt and white blouse...Is this the sub uniform of choice? *s*

Dress has never been an issue in my relationship with my Master. My career and life require that i wear dresses, suits and heels daily. I own no jeans out of preference and tennis shoes and sweats for me are only appropriate at the gym.

As far as dress is concerned, the only thing Master changed or requires is that i am accessible to him at all times. I am no way indicating all D/s relationships should be patterned this way. This is just O/our way and stating, Master expected nothing different from me because i met his expectations in dress beforehand.

So, with these thoughts in mind, I'm curious if dress has been an issue in your relationship.

Respectfully,
BTs willing


Dress hasn’t ever been an issue for us. I’m not a big fan of jeans so I don’t own any, but on a weekend I have been known to run errands in sweats and a baseball cap. My owner doesn’t really have dress preferences, except I know he likes to see me in white so I do try to wear light colors if not white.

Other than that, I believe fairly strongly in dressing nicely.

C~

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 2:02:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2serve

Did you ever have to address the subject of dress?
Did your submissive's dress have to change to meet your expectations?

We're working on that. My requirements aren't very restrictive. So far all I've done is buy her some new panties and told her to wear them. I guess I'm different about the skirt/dress thing because I don't have much of a preference for them.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 7:43:40 PM   
sultryvoice


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Status: offline 		For me, dress has never been an issue. In the past, with one Dom, he made a comment that he loved to see legs..I made a mental note and wore skirts or dresses to surprise him. Not all the time, but enough..I prefer comfort but I am willing to make certain changes, if he wishes to spend the money (eg)!!!

Respectfully,
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RE: Address Dress - 12/26/2005 8:19:12 PM   
OscarHargraves


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Status: offline 		My requirement is that Kari dress like a lady when we are going out in public. Unless we are going to be doing something that requires old work clothes I expect her to dress (and act) like a lady when we are around others. I told her I disliked some of her sloppyt clothes and I haven't seen them since. 'Nuff said.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/27/2005 11:53:28 AM   
Crazytwice


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Status: offline 		Although I always try to look my best, my style tends to run all over the place.
I would LOVE to have a man assist me in clothing choice.
I need some limits, dammit!


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RE: Address Dress - 12/27/2005 2:16:56 PM   
swtnsparkling


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Status: offline 		Only one relationship I was told how to dress , dress's/skirts always - no bra or panties ever while with them.no longer allowed to wear anything black because that was a Dom color and I wasn't allowed to wear anything but light pink color on my nails.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/27/2005 2:27:48 PM   
willing2serve


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.no longer allowed to wear anything black because that was a Dom color and I wasn't allowed to wear anything but light pink color on my nails.


wow, never heard anything about clothing color before...that is a first for me.

I have been told by other Doms that I should not wear red nails; however my Master loves me in black and red nails...interesting.

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RE: Address Dress - 12/27/2005 2:34:33 PM   
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But I am considering cutting out the pockets in some :-)


LOL....i just had a great picture in my mind of you, scissors in hand, surrounded by skirts turned inside out, removing one offending pocket after another, and shouting, "Away with you, evil pocket!!!!" The gleam that i imagine in your eyes is priceless.


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RE: Address Dress - 12/27/2005 2:42:36 PM   
IrishMist


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ORIGINAL: peppermint379

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But I am considering cutting out the pockets in some :-)


LOL....i just had a great picture in my mind of you, scissors in hand, surrounded by skirts turned inside out, removing one offending pocket after another, and shouting, "Away with you, evil pocket!!!!" The gleam that i imagine in your eyes is priceless.




LOL I had the same visual...only mine was thinking back to Willing's BK comment on the other thread

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