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Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 7:11:48 AM

MHOO314

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Id' like to address this to service only subs/slaves or Dom/mes who have service only subs--we seldom see ( unless I have missed something set Me straight here)--pure service subs or slaves--those that seek only to provide some type of service with no more remuneration than the release and joy of serving---(veronica is the first true service sub I have commuicated with and she has provided us all great insight)--but I am curious--

My questions are:

What drives you the most?

The service you provide?
The knowledge that you are pleasing a Master/Mistress?
Your quality of work?
The actual work?

What do you look for from them as a sign that you are doing well?

What are hard limits?

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 8:31:00 AM

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quote:

we seldom see ( unless I have missed something set Me straight here)--pure service subs or slaves--those that seek only to provide some type of service with no more remuneration than the release and joy of serving

this slave has seldom seen what you are talking about within the "lifestyle" or "BDSM" community. Most of the folks this slave encounters within those loose definitions are serving with some excpectation--their sexual fantasies fulfilled, their "balance" between the "other" side of themselves(Dom or sub), the completion of themselves through the "other half" in a relationship, what-have-you.

Most of the folks that this slave has met who are purely serving for the release and joy of serving have no idea what BDSM or the "lifestyle" community is. there are folks that live in remote, rural areas, who, by tradition do things for their neighbors and others without thought or intention of what they would get in return or whether or not they are being taken advantage of or considered a "doormat".........they do it because it is a part of their code of ethics, that the ABILITY and the CAPACITY to do such things is what drives them. they do it because they can, because they feel it is as much a part of what and who they are as the color of their eyes, the heritage that brought them here, a sort of homage and appreciation of being blessed with that orientation.

this slave always saw it as something special, a sort of spiritual "gift" that someone can "hear" with "ears" not everybody is aware of. Ultimate example? Jesus Christ.

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 9:25:03 AM

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My questions are:

What drives you the most?
********anything dirty

The service you provide?
**excuse me? please ask more directly so i can answwer.

The knowledge that you are pleasing a Master/Mistress?
**if it's clean..She is pleased..and Her vanilla hubby loves a clean house.

Your quality of work?
**quality? like as if i would do half-a-job? c'mon now..

The actual work?
**What about it? do it til you are done

What do you look for from them as a sign that you are doing well?
i have Her giggling and smiling...what more do you need?
and Her hubby brags about my work.

What are hard limits?
e x c u s e ME? there ARE no limits..i do everything...from the roof to the ground..wall to wall floor to floor...
if it is on-the-property..i do it..including the boat decking area AND the docking AND the boat...

limits?
as if i would say..oh no i cant do that..its icky?
puh leeeze
there ARE no limits to SERVICE

best wishes for '06 to you

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 10:14:24 AM

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this slave has seldom seen what you are talking about within the "lifestyle" or "BDSM" community. Most of the folks this slave encounters within those loose definitions are serving with some excpectation--their sexual fantasies fulfilled, their "balance" between the "other" side of themselves(Dom or sub), the completion of themselves through the "other half" in a relationship, what-have-you.

Let me clarify, the expectation is the completion of that submissive side, but nothing beyond that--i.e sexual gratification, kink play etc.

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 10:25:19 AM

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they do it because it is a part of their code of ethics, that the ABILITY and the CAPACITY to do such things is what drives them. they do it because they can, because they feel it is as much a part of what and who they are as the color of their eyes, the heritage that brought them here, a sort of homage and appreciation of being blessed with that orientation.
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yesssssssssssssss

thank you
that the ABILITY and the CAPACITY to do such things is what drives them.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 5:34:47 PM

shandra

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direction, correction, being cared for, focus, usefulness, love, respect (both of self and of dominant), protection, a reasonable chance of permanance being that the relationship is outside the sphere of lovelife, etc
i bet that theres more relationships of this nature than there are subs looking for them
i'm not sure any submissive serves purely for service's sake though, theres always reasons

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 7:30:41 PM

PSB2k4

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What drives you the most?

The ability to make a dominant Female's life a little bit easier by doing something She needs done that She deems beneath Herself, or just plain out doesn't want to do. Ultimately, i guess you could just say Her happiness.

What do you look for from them as a sign that you are doing well?

Hopefully, a request to serve Her on a regular basis

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 7:49:35 PM

shandra

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in response to the sign that one is doing well question?
lack of visible disaproval, the occasional gesture of approval
oh and yeah not being released from service
and as for 'what drives you?'
the same

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 8:10:11 PM

shandra

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service provided?quality?actual work? hard limits? these are not my place to answer, and the owner of this girl doesnt post here
knowledge that one's owner is pleased? see my last post

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 10:03:31 PM

veronicaofML

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i'm not sure any submissive serves purely for service's sake though, theres always reasons
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ahem..
excuse me?
i know ya aint talkin 'bout me...
i have no reason..other than..BEING in service.
i do not...get..anything...BECAUSE of my service thank you very much.
and i resent the implication.
i have NOTHING i want from Her.
there is no romance...no bonding shit.
no s/m
no inner connnection trash.
i have nothing involved or invested in this...
i can walk any damned time i want..and not look back.

reasons?

uh uh. not in me. that goes against my morals. THAT would imply an ulterior//alterior...whatever...another motive underneath and i resent that.

no by the gods........

i do not have ANY reason except to make someone's day brighter..
making meals...cleaning up...making their living easier and happier..
i get no s/m or romance or sex or anything out of this EXCEPT to know i have 2 people and 2 dogs here that have life easier coz i am here watchin-their-back for em.

so i do not..personally...appreciate THIS ...
reasons my eye........

no way in holy hell..

i AM...THEE EXCEPTION to THEE rule..........

take care
best wishes

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/26/2005 11:59:52 PM

shandra

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veronica
all respect then
i wish i had had that purity of intent
i should have used a less generalising word than any - i'm sorry no offence was intended
myself i'm not sure how i ended up in one of these
this girl used to be a sub but all the other things must have meant more
this girl has only been owned in this particular manner for a few months
is certainly a learning experience

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 6:20:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

i AM...THEE EXCEPTION to THEE rule..........

*yawn*

Are you still going on about this? There is no "rule" and you're hardly unique.

~stef

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 8:14:21 AM

veronicaofML

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Are you still going on about this? There is no "rule" and you're hardly unique.

~stef
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really???????/ show me another like me then...
put up or shut up.
and you are wrong.
there are always rules to this damned society......
look around and quit living in a bubble world of denial.

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 8:19:43 AM

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Well motivations for service only people tend to range widely from a feeling they are called to service (like a preist or monk) to just finding fullfillment from service (like the charity workers you see in the paper).

What they get out of it? The feeling that they are being of service is a strong motivator for them. Most of them have other needs that must be met as well but they are not really looking for the reciever to provide for much other than basic real needs.

The problem comes in that they often actually end up buring themselves out by working too hard without takeing care of their own needs. Which coincidently is one reason many need a Dominant in their lives, so the Dominant can help regulate how much they "give" to everyone else at their own expense of time health and effort.

In Leather

Archer

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 9:37:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

really???????/ show me another like me then...
put up or shut up.

Several people took the time to "put up" the last time you railed on about how you were the only "service only submissive" around. Feel free to go back and read those responses again.

quote:

and you are wrong.
there are always rules to this damned society......
look around and quit living in a bubble world of denial.

Who said anything about the rules of society? You claimed you were "THEE EXCEPTION to THEE rule......" Exactly which rule are you referring to?

~stef

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 10:01:41 AM

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Who said anything about the rules of society? You claimed you were "THEE EXCEPTION to THEE rule......" Exactly which rule are you referring to?

~stef
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the "rules" of this lifestyle.
most people you will find,..have expectations of what is/is not/proper.
and i do not fit the pidgeon hole.
i am not part of the-norm of this lifestyle.
k?

take care

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 10:05:26 AM

veronicaofML

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Well motivations for service only people tend to range widely from a feeling they are called to service (like a preist or monk) to just finding fullfillment from service (like the charity workers you see in the paper).

What they get out of it? The feeling that they are being of service is a strong motivator for them. Most of them have other needs that must be met as well but they are not really looking for the reciever to provide for much other than basic real needs.

The problem comes in that they often actually end up buring themselves out by working too hard without takeing care of their own needs. Which coincidently is one reason many need a Dominant in their lives, so the Dominant can help regulate how much they "give" to everyone else at their own expense of time health and effort.

In Leather

Archer
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YOU have described me to a T.
except i do not..burn out.
i learned as a young kid how-to-pace myself. as an only child i adapted my own set of self rules and self govern...my own pace.

i take time-out..so i know when i am pushing myself too hard too fast.
YOUR post is pin point accurate.
this IS ...MY calling.

thank YOU...........thank YOU

You are a scholar AND a gentleman.

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 10:20:11 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

the "rules" of this lifestyle.

Which are? I must have missed it when these rules were posted.

quote:

most people you will find,..have expectations of what is/is not/proper.

Everyone has expectations, it doesn't make them universal.

quote:

and i do not fit the pidgeon hole.
i am not part of the-norm of this lifestyle.
k?

That's all well and good, but it ignores a pretty important point—there is no "norm" of this "lifestyle."

~stef

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 12:22:07 PM

veronicaofML

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Which are? I must have missed it when these rules were posted.

the ones where, people EXPECT ;;ALL subs/slaves to kiss thier butts coz they call themselves dom or domme...and i aint gonna do it.
i dont back down from anyone.

Everyone has expectations, it doesn't make them universal.

really stef?
shall i start naming names on here?
i know of 3 right now that expect more out of me than i am gonna give em...

That's all well and good, but it ignores a pretty important point—there is no "norm" of this "lifestyle."

i repeat myself..shall i start naming names?
i know people on here..including a few mods..that think they walk on water..
they will tell you there are norms...

whom do i start with stef?

take care girl
best wishes in '06

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 1:18:42 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

the ones where, people EXPECT ;;ALL subs/slaves to kiss thier butts coz they call themselves dom or domme...and i aint gonna do it.
i dont back down from anyone.

People's unrealistic expectations are not rules. Try again.

quote:

really stef?
shall i start naming names on here?
i know of 3 right now that expect more out of me than i am gonna give em...

See above answer.

quote:

i repeat myself..shall i start naming names?
i know people on here..including a few mods..that think they walk on water..
they will tell you there are norms...
whom do i start with stef?

More likely, they will tell you that there are rules for being a member of this system. You want to use this system, you play by the rules set forth by the mods/admins. This system is *not* any governing body for the "lifestyle." These system rules have nothing to do with your life once you step away from the keyboard so how could they possibly have anything to do with the "rules of the lifestyle?"

~stef

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