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bluepanda -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/6/2008 9:22:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mydniterose

Is anyone else upset that the majority of FemDom porn protrays male submissives as whimpy, shrimpy guys that look like a stiff breeze could blow them over?!?...

So am I alone here?


You're not alone in being bothered by it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it really upsets me. I think it used to bother me when i was younger and more insecure, but as I've grown older, I've pretty much passed the point where other people's prejudices and stereotypes annoy me. In fact, honestly I have no idea why I ever let it bother me. I'm 6'4", about 225, a hockey player and former boxer, and I work out 5 or 6 days a week. I know I'm not wimpy or shrimpy, my partners have always known I'm not wimpy or shrimpy, and anybody who sees me in real life would never mistake me for wimpy or shrimpy, so why should it ever have mattered to me whether a bunch of strangers who knew nothing about me subscribed to a silly-assed unflattering stereotype about submissive men? Kinda silly, really, to let those people into my head in any way or to any degree.




OneMoreWaste -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/6/2008 9:45:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrazyCindy
Those men sending me wimpy messages are a huge turn off.
"I'm on my knees for you mistress"
"I'll wear your panties mistress"
"I humbly submit to you mistress"

I would prefer this.
"You want me then you'll have to came and take me."
*man runs*
*CrazyCindy gives chase* *catches* *knocks down, strips, ties up, drags back to bedroom, spanks*

Ok. maybe that's an exaggeration but you get the idea. I agree with you OP. I prefer non wimpy men


So it's "wimpy" for them to give into you of their own free will in hopes of pleasing you, and not-wimpy if you can overpower them? [&:]

I'll *never* figure this stuff out. [:o]




OneMoreWaste -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 7:51:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CrazyCindy
So it's "wimpy" for them to give into you of their own free will in hopes of pleasing you, and not-wimpy if you can overpower them? [&:]

I'll *never* figure this stuff out. [:o]


For me it is yes. Remember, we are all different. Some women will love the wimpy guys and some, like me, don't want them. You will get no where if you try to figure "women" or "dominatrices" out. You will get everywhere if you try to figure us out one woman/dominatrix at a time. We are all individuals, not a collective. Your statement comes up a lot on the vanilla dating site I'm on. Seems some statements are common everywhere.


Oh, I'm fully aware of that. I just think it's funny that to most of the world, having been overpowered against your will makes you more of a wimp than choosing your own path, even if that path is to follow someone else. It's a terminology thang.




OneMoreWaste -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 9:27:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: eri
And on the flipside you have websites that promote fem subs to be uber sluts who NEVER say no, who are always wet and eager and can take anything that bad ole Dom (who either never smiles or you never see his face at all) can dish out.


I heard they tried doing some where the women were grudging, whiny, and indifferent, but more than half of them ended up getting returned [&:]




NefertariReborn -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 3:01:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mydniterose

Is anyone else upset that the majority of FemDom porn protrays male submissives as whimpy, shrimpy guys that look like a stiff breeze could blow them over?!?

Take a look at the banner running at the bottom and right side of the main pages of this site.
Every time I check my mail I am treated to the image of some plastic "Fetish Barbie Doll" version of a Domme  tieing up some little boy , spanking him , dripping a bit of wax on his bits, then using a strap on-or just sucking his little weenie before fucking him.

I don't know how you feel about it, but for me at least I don't have sex with my subs...at least not all the time and not my more casual playmates!

For me that level of intimicy is a privliege that I only share with a very few.

No WONDER so many of the males writing to us think the lifestyle is about kinky sex! NO WONDER I get so many messages declaring the writers prowess at oral sex!

And does this mean the producers of these sub standard porn productions really think that a real Dominant Woman is only capable of handling a whimpy little man?

The men I like are big, strong and very masculine! Anyone can dominante the weak! I thrill to a strong man  kneeling before me, attentive to my desires, suffering the pain I so joyfully give him, knowing the entire time that he is doing this because it is his pleasure to serve....A ...Strong ....Woman!

At this point if I want to enjoy a porn with a large, strong man...(with a hairy chest please) I have to watch the gay bondage channel!
 
*sigh*

So am I alone here?


I, for one, am tired of subs/slaves in panties, bras and hosiery.  I (let Me say that again very loudly) I get to wear the panties (cute sexy ones too) and you don't.  Where the hell are the men who wear those sexy sports boxers that are tight and snug and show *deep breath* (got carried away).  There's a shortage of manly MANLY men.  If I see one more man in lipstick I'm going to gag. 




E2Sweet -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 3:23:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NefertariReborn
...If I see one more man in lipstick I'm going to gag....


Eww, I know! Don't ya just hate that??? [:D]




toddlefeet -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 4:24:32 PM)

I understand how you feel to a certain extent. on the AB/DL side. I see ALOT of guys wanting to be "Sissys" and female ab's.. I dont get it.Why does a guy wanna be a girl..Hell.. just get a sex change. christ. turns me off really.  




Lockit -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 4:25:14 PM)

Maybe it isn't a matter of how one views womanhood... but in how they view themselves.  If a manly man doesn't feel he should be wearing his woman's panties... that would in itself be humiliating.  It doesn't have to suggest that being woman, having anything to do with being woman is degrading or humiliating... just that he isn't woman and feels he shouldn't be wearing her clothing.  Big difference.

Friggin e's and a's and dingy domme brain... grrrrr hehe




Lockit -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/7/2008 4:29:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: toddlefeet

I understand how you feel to a certain extent. on the AB/DL side. I see ALOT of guys wanting to be "Sissys" and female ab's.. I dont get it.Why does a guy wanna be a girl..Hell.. just get a sex change. christ. turns me off really.  


There is a lot more to this story and I don't have the time or mindset to show it to you... besides there are other's that could tell you much better than I could.  But there are reasons that you in no way could understand and say what you have.  Now... if you wish to be as you are... you have freedom to be so, but if you wish to be a kinder, gentler you... you might at least consider there are those that have good reason for being who they are and to subject them to your ignorance is harsher than they should have to be subjected to on a site where we all have our little issues.




youngsubgeoff -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/8/2008 6:11:59 PM)

I am not the stereotypical "small male sub". I am 6 ft tall, 250 lbs, a former football linebacker and hockey defenseman. I am straightforward and stubborn, wich can be good qualities when used correctly, though some may not think so in a submissive.

However, what anyone else outside of my Mistress thinks of me is irrelevant. She doesnt care about my size and wheight, in fact She likes the fact that Im not "wimpy" or a "doormat". Not that there is anything wrong with those qualities, they just dont suit my Mistress. She loves me for who I am, and I love Her for who She is.




slaveboy291 -> RE: Fed up with the image of "whimpy" male subs (12/8/2008 9:58:14 PM)

Wimps and what-not are perfect for "moneydoms" because they both have image problems.  The "doms" put down to the extreme their subs to bring themselves up and the guys have no self-esteem.

Now I'm looking for a strong Mistress, but that doesen't mean I'm a total pushover(a friend of mine once said I would make a better Dom)

As for porn creating an unrealistic expectations, well yeah it does.  Just like vanilla.




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